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Ghosts are still on the same level of reality of the invisible pink elephant living in my fridge unless you present some objective evidence (which no one in human history has ever done). You really are grasping at straws now. |
How long did it take since the first theories about the atom were documented until it was actually proven?
In the 5th cent. B.C. the Greek philosophers Democritus and Leucippus proposed that matter was made up of tiny, indivisible particles they called atom, or in Greek "a-tomos". By the 19th century, technology had advanced greatly and many elements had been discovered to work with. Using the available elements scientist such as John Dalton and Amedeo Avogadro forced them to interact with one another. From these interactions they were able to prove the existence of the atom. Too bad we'll all be dead. Hope someone tells your ghost when it happens. |
comparing ghosts to atoms now???
hahahahahhahahahahahahahah this is getting better and better. |
why not? everything (above the plank level) contains them, professor.
why can't you argue in a civil manner? the lad(ee) doth protesteth too much. |
Obviously more than one a day is needed:
The Cyclops. Also "not real". |
See, this is what I said before. Not only are you saying that you don't believe in ghosts, but also anyone does is lying not only to themselves but to everyone and therefore are detrimental (sp?) to society, so they should change their ways. You're PREACHING, which you claim to say you're against.
You're open-minded about pot being legalized, so why can't you be open to the idea that there are things that exist in this world that defy simple explanation? Or at the very least quit calling people stupid liars for believeing in things that can't yet be proven? |
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ha, now you know what its like when I post material about deep politics - but no one writes to me privately to say its not serious! Waah! We understand our existence within 3 dimensions, but our preception is challenged beyond that - isn't also reasonable we exist in part in the 4th dimension and I can't even predict how that looks - I can't perceive the 4th dimension (well, I might've unlocked the keys once or twice). I don't see why it so far fetched for consciousness to exist without form. I tend to believe consciousness came before the body anyway. Not that I have proof, but then, there is no proof the body came first either. |
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actual the cryptozoological websites seem busier than ever ... recently posted an old old photo of some civil war soldiers with a pterodactyl they shot. And there's that vampire thing in Mexico and south America that seems very active. |
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This is not about being open minded. This is about understanding the world around you. Is there a God? I don't know, but if you claim to have objective evidence about Gods existence you better damn well present it or shut the fuck up. This is what knox has done with ghosts yet she has failed to present any such evidence. In my eyes she is a fucking retard until she admits she was wrong or presents such evidence. The moment I ever find such evidence I will be the first to admit that ghosts are real and indeed exist. Until then: For Knox: The Elf, The Devil, The Mermaid = NOT REAL |
I wasn't even comparing anything, just saying there has always been idiots with no imagination to claim everything was bullshit, and other people who persist for hundreds of years to prove a theory. Not because they wanted to prove anything to idiots, but just because they are more interested in what they don't know than they are in what they do imagine they know.
But things always change - and there are always new things to discover. If you imagine only what you can see and touch is a possibility - than your life must be really limited. In a past life, hevusa sat there going like: "hahhahahahah atom? next thing you'll say it's possible to take a dead man's heart and make it work for a living one hahahhahha" We don't know shit about shit. But we'll learn more, you'll probably be able to learn more than 10 sentences too. with great fear. In other words, I think that there are many things in the universe that we cannot perceive or penetrate, and that also we experience some of the most beautiful things in life only in a very primitive form. - Albert Einstein, Interview with Peter A. Bucky, quoted in: The Private Albert Einstein Whenever this feeling is absent, science degenerates into uninspired empiricism. - Albert Einstein, Letter to Maurice Solovine, January 1, 1951; quoted in Letters to Solovine (1993) Uninspired empiricism describes your overall attitude hevusa. |
Since Knox is quoting Einstein now
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Einstein |
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I nevet claimed to have objective evidence of anything, so don't be a liar, it's shitty. |
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He was always right about everything, wasn't he? |
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Yeah, I think you're right. Or at least, not claim to be agnostic since this attitude clearly isn't agnostic. |
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So, our eyes can see things that don't consist of matter? Please do explain, Knox. That has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever, ever, ever heard. |
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Well, unreported claims aren't much worth considering. |
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Also Not Real- Werewolfs Zombies The Sandman Witches Goblins I'm only agnostic in regards to the concept of an omnipresent God. Not fucking ghosts or smurfs. Shit.... For Knox: Also not real- Smurfs |
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YOU JUST FAIL TO CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE! :) |
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Yes, the evidence for zombie werewolfs is overwhelming! |
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I suppose you can't tell so I'll have to tell you. When people are posting about facts, science, theories, history, concepts, they are mentioning quantum psychics, jung and einstein and THIS is the best you can come up with to discuss, it makes them think that perhaps you aren't as bright as you're trying to come across and you can't respond to any of the things that have been presented to you appropriately. Regardless of how irrational you might think they are being, it's certainly more credible than sounding like a broken record that came out of some adam sandler film. Also, it seems out of the ordinary that ann ashtray would ignore a post about his own creepiness, is that a new pattern emerging? |
Oh, also, it might give people the impression that you were never interested in discussing a subject to begin with, but merely trying to find an opportunity to insult other people so you can feel better about yourself.
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I'm a total creep, yes. Everyone here knows that already. haha
But ghosts are far creepier. Esp. those that try and argue their existence. |
But you like to brag about it, hence the surprise.
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I don't care. That should be the suprise, except not really. It's the internet. I only know two people on this forum (well, three....but one is dead) personally, and I get/got along with all three of them very well. I don't have to defend myself against some girl that likely grew up w/ her parents calling her "princess" every time she'd throw a fit in the super market. |
+ you sure make a lot of false assumptions for someone w/ psychic abilities.
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I'm not making assumptions or asking to hear the story of your life. I'm just saying that you're always more interested in me than you are in any subject being discussed and you never have anything relevant to say other than trying to get personal and that is pretty sad.
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Until recently I've not said a god damned thing to ya that was off subject. You're attempting to twist this shit around like ya usually do when ya make claims you can't back up.
Nice try, but again shit ain't workin'. |
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To prove the existence of ghosts? You would be the first person on earth, and quite frankly, you don't seem that impressive dear. |
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I know, I was getting excited that she might finally shed some light on this subject too. Maybe we are just blind to matterless beings. |
i'm not going to discuss "reality".
hevusa and creep: carry on bonding. <3 |
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You clearly are. I wouldn't call it beings. |
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you are actually carrying on with this delusion? "I wouldn't call it beings" like you know what the fuck they are. Fucking ridiculous!!! hahahahaha so much fun. so many people in your life must think you are an idiot. |
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By her own account she's dealt with mental issues in the past, so please....take that into consideration Hevusa. It could have been her meds, or maybe meds were the result of the shit she claims to have seen.....the world will never know. |
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ouch. I had no idea. that sort of changes the "fun". |
hevusa says-
"Who am I? I'm just an honest person that says "I don't know" when something cannot be known instead of making up stupid shit.[/quote] aren't you saying "no (you fucking stupid idiot etc...)" rather than "i don't know" refer back to floating slowly's "cunt" post... and yeah DDD this thread is really hilarious! |
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Let me make myself clear: I never meant I had plenty of evidence to prove anything to anyone. I said I had plenty of evidence MYSELF. And none of that concerns you. I was very clear about not being willing to share any of that from the start. So I am crazy? It's a possibility, but there is no concrete evidence of that either. And it's still more rewarding than being one dimensional, repetitive, defensive, unimaginative being that'll opt for uncalled for aggression as an outlet for insecurity. I don't need to cling to what I know - there is more freedom in not knowning. Feel free to come back and discuss when you are actually interested in the discussion itself and able to respond to the many aspects people have been pointed out with a little bit more insight. |
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I'm just asking for the evidence that someone thought they had about the existence of ghosts. Do I know that ghosts and god don't exist? No. But I also don't know that the tiny pink invisible elephant living in my refrigerator doesn't exist. Do I know Ghosts and God aren't real? Yes, until one iota of objective information is presented about them they remain an unknowable concept/theory. Not a part of reality in any manner. On the same level of reality as Alice in Wonderland. These fucking morons on here actually think that ghosts, god and souls are real. That is fucking ridiculous man! God damn! 2010 and this is where we are at?? |
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Let's not forget, she also claimed it's been proven in court. I'm still waiting for a link to info on this case. |
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