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The league and sportcommenthaterz are spitting the most fire at Matt Schaub, but really, its all over blown. That is the problem with hype, it distorts reality and greats gossip. For example, hype always surrounds Manning and Brady, so that even if these guys do put up stellar stats, there will always be anti-social NFL fans like myself who could give two fucks about it, because hype ruins it sometimes. That is in a way, what has made Lebron James such an exciting basketball player, he lives up to the hype while also occiassionally falling short just often enough to keep it interesting, to keep us speculating, to keep people paying attention, sometimes to watch him fail, others to see if he pulls it off.
As to Schaub, he was over hyped last year by Houston's success. The guy is good, but suffers from Michael Vick syndrome, his turn overs start to cancel out the appeal of his strong arm and unique skill sets. Vick would be a top-10 QB every year if he could just manage to stop turning over the football. Personally, all the cries for his head I think are grossly exaggerated. Who out there on the market is actually a better QB? Who is even an option? Now Schaub is getting older in QB terms, so his window is closing soon, but in the short term while it is still open (ie. 2-3 years) the guy is clearly the best choice. Its been said he doesn't have that Superbowl contending edge, and while that is technically correct, I can think of several QBs who have put up less than stellar numbers and yet been Superbowl winning QBs. Further, its easy to criticize season statistics, but look at how Fantasy QBs like Drew Brees/Matt Stafford both threw for over 5,000 yards last season, only to not make the playoffs. Or the Manning/Brady/Rodgers who are clearly the best QBs in the NFL and yet again, have been sent home packing year after year the past few Championships. Being the best in the season, or the best in the league, doesn't always translate to the best of the moment. Look at Joe Flacco, an admittedly mediocre season QB, and yet over the past five seasons literally one of the most impacting, dynamic, and winning QBs in the NFL. He has sent home all the greats and Cinderellas packing on early exits, and yet is clearly in the middle of the pack during the season. The guy, like an NBA player, seems to have a playoff switch. The real question is not is Schaub a game-winning QB for Houston, the question is given the opportunity will he have a Joe Flacco moment and turn it on? |
I don;t know if it is about skill with Schaub, as much as it is with his motivation, his drive. He is not a lead by example guy, nor is he a hell and brimstone spit in your face guy. I think he just smokes too much of that H-town dank.
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Flacco doesn't appear like a vocal leader, but he clearly stepped up when needed and this season the roster is unamimously behind him. Of course winning 9 playoff games in the past five years has that kind of effect. If Schaub steps up in the playoffs and makes the AFC Conference I think he can change that leadership issue.. If Houston slumps or declines I agree, but really, who is necessarily better than Schaub and available?
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When it comes to Schaub and the Texans offense, I've heard some interesting things this week:
Seahawk players after the game and once they returned home to do local radio were blown away at how easy and effortlessly the Texans moved the ball and scored on them in the first half......they couldn't stop the Texans. At the same time, Seahawk players said they knew exactly what to expect from the Texans in the 2nd half and played as if they were a step or two ahead of them. All of this falls on the shoulders of Head Coach, Gary Kubiak. I believe he has become too predictable with his tendencies and play calling. The first 15 plays of each half are scripted and usually work. However, once he gets past those 15 plays, it feels like he just starts over with the same 15 plays again. University of Houston Cougar Nation would LOVE to see Case Keenum get a starters chance......but I'm afraid he or TJ Yates would work out as good as Tim Tebow did with the Jets. Being competitive and playing well under the prime-time lights this Sunday night in San Francisco would go along way......a victory would be icing on the cake! |
No one in the NFL is scared of Schaub.
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Word from a European Sports Book is next weeks Jacksonville at Denver game will have a line of Denver -26.
There is a good chance it may fall to Denver -23 once it opens in the States. However, word from the local books is Vegas is considering taking Jacksonville off the board for the remainder of the season. |
The 2013 Jags remind me of the David Carr "led" Texans.
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"We're at that point where we're at the bottom and it's time to climb to the top......this can't continue." - JJ Watt
Matt Schaub is the first QB to throw four pick sixes in four consecutive games. Matt Schaub has thrown 13 INT's in the last eight games played (including playoffs). This season, Schaub has thrown TD's to: Alterraun Verner (Titans) Daryl Smith (Ravens) Richard Sherman (Seahawks) Tramaine Brock (49er's) ******not one TD pass to Andre Johnson (Texans)****** Last week, Seahwak QB Russel Wilson has three 1st Half completions and the Texans led 20-3. Last night, 49'er QB Kaepernick had four 1st Half completions and the Texans trailed 21-0. After five games played, Texans have allowed 62 points off turnovers or special teams......allowed a total of 86 points all last season! Andrew Luck made his 22nd career start yesterday. Colts are 4-1 this season and have beaten Seattle and San Francisco. Andrew Luck has tied Jake Pummer for most Game Winning drives in his first two seasons with NINE and Luck has eleven games remaining this season. |
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I know......still can't believe you lost your first fantasy game :eek: |
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Ravens got an ugly win in Miami, but look at what a difference a few weeks can make. 3-2 and now Miami is 3-2, and Ravens are putting themselves in a better position to take the Division or at least compete for that Wild Card. What about that epic Cowboys collapse? Tony Romo has a knack for setting Dallas Cowboys franchise QB records.. in losses ;) |
Cowboys was not a collapse. That game was AWESOME and I cannot believe how fabulous Romo's throws were. Romo really impressed me.
on that last INT, you can see he got stepped on by his own lineman. Romo was throwing it as good as I have ever seen! and I hate teh cowboys! |
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I totally agree! No way did I believe Denver could score over 40 points and Dallas have a chance, much less than Denver scoring over 50 points and it being a field goal game. If Dallas can beat Washington this Sunday night, all will be well in their world! |
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The Cowboys absolutely collapsed on defense through out the game. They ALMOST pulled off the goal line stand, choked the Broncos to the FG but with enough time on the clock to match it. Instead, the defense just couldn't get the last stop. Tony Romo played fantastic, but Tony Romo has had a lot of fantastic games, just too many losses. Is he suffering from Philip Rivers/Matt Stafford syndrome, elite level QB yet crap team? Probably. The past three years consecutively by any statistical measure Tony Romo has been a top-10 QB, yet can't get into the playoffs. Michael Vick got out of prison and made the playoffs. Joe Flacco hasn't missed the playoffs in his career. Andy Dalton has made the playoffs, TWICE in a row now. Even Christian Ponder couldn't stop Adrian Peterson from dragging the Vikings into the playoffs. Yet Tony Romo? This year he still has a chance, but so have the Cowboys EVERY year. They have been a half-game out of the playoffs too many years now..
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That is one of my all-time favorite Bill Murray movies! Texans fans are getting pretty clever, though its a bit soon to burn his jersey, save that for if he takes his talents to South Beach |
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Yet again, Mike Smith loses a game because of a 4th and 1 blunder. In his 27 career losses, I'd be willing to wager 20 of them were cost by these kinds of blunders. In the 1st quarter, yeah, Falcons were down 17-7, but they just lost 30-28. Had Smith went for the easy FG rather than trying to get the TD and FAILING in four tries, Atlanta would have won this game 31-30 and completely turned around their season. Jets would have been happy. Falcons would have been happy. Now? The Law of Averages caught up with Atlanta. They've only lost 9 or 10 games over the past three seasons, now they've lost three in and row, and are 1-8 counting the preseason. I'd be happy if they could just finish 8-8 now. It'd require finishing .600 instead of .2000 |
super exciting game last night though. awesome til the end.
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My "paciencia" ran out a long time ago with Matt "The robot" Schaub.
That is my new theory, that he is a robot an automaton, who cannot and will not ever play impulsively or creatively. I call Matt Schaub the anti-Namath. |
Texans TE Owen Daniels suffered a fractured fibula and will be out from 4 to 8 weeks.
Garrett Graham will replace him in the lineup. Such a loss for the Texans offense, which hasn't scored a touchdown in 2 of their last 3 games. |
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One must understand the decision made was done so with the then current score being 17-7. Sure - looking back once the game was completed, it's easy to point to the decision and ask, "what if / could have been." It's clear to me Mike Smith factored in his teams lack of ability to move the ball against the Jets in the first half and figured he might not get any closer in the 2nd half. ......but let's look back at the play. Talking about ONE play where the Falcon's need ONE yard. Straight up the gut with NINE Jets int he box = lazy lame loser stuffed! Falcons + Braves = worst day for Atlanta since Lincoln robbed them of all that free labor :rolleyes: Word today: Falcons fear Julio Jones likely OUT for the rest of the year with a foot injury (seeking second opinion tomorrow). |
Fans "accosted" Schaub and his family outside their home, telling him he sucks.
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Yes, but that kind of football logic DOESN'T apply to Mike Smith, because in his career, it seems his ONLY weakness are 4th and short plays. 4th and long? All day with 1st downs and TDs in the red. But short plays that require a rush or a shotgun pass? CONSISTENTLY FAILS. If he needs to get the TD it doesn't happen. If he needs the 1st down, it never happens. If they should have punted to keep good field position instead they just turn it over on downs and lose. Whether Mike runs it, plays the fake, tries to throw it, even a QB sneak, the Falcons simply CAN NOT MANAGE TO CONVERT 4TH AND SHORT PLAYS, PERIOD. So all the football logic in the world becomes irrelevant, all you have to ask yourself is, "Is Mike Smith confronted with a 4th and short play? Falcons are going to lose the game!" I'm not exaggerating, it has been a factor in most if not ALL of the Falcons 27 losses under the Mike Smith tenure. Will the guy it fired? Probably not, with 57 career wins and a .680 record Smith is by far the Falcons most winning coach in their franchise history. But some coordinators GOT TO GO. Falcons are 1-8 considering the preseason, and if you consider that and the games from last season they are 2-12.... And Julio just went down???? Quote:
That is funny as a classic NFL moment, but it also is totally classless. I expect that from cities like Boston, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Cleveland, or even Dallas, but Houston?? Really?? Y'all will obviously never usurp Dallas' position as the undisputed fifth worst fan base in all of sports (between arrogant Rangers fans, crybaby Cowboys fans, or stupid Mavs fans Dallas is a ugly place for sports). Boston is the worst, their fans are bitter, cocky, and racist! Phillie fans aren't necessarily bad to other teams and cities, but they are the most self-hating fan base in all of sports, they are the first to dive into introspective cynicism. Los Angeles is an ugly place for sports, because our fan base has the mentality of Championships or you suck, and likes to shit on all the teams that don't win Championships, even if we aren't winning them either! That, and we have the largest bandwagon fanbase in all of sports, at the turn of a hat suddenly 5,000,000 people are magically Laker fans!! Cleveland aren't as mean-spirited as Phillie, but that is what decades of consistent losing will do to a city. Yeah, they are mean-spirited and fraught with self-loathing, but they wear it like a martyrs' badge of honor rather than the kind of "we know can win but aren't seeming to win" mentality of those spiteful Philadelphia fans. Careful Houston, if y'all keep biting at Schaub, y'all might make my Top-5 worst cities for sports for an honorary 2013-14 season ;) |
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I watched some of this, but even by Frontline standards it was rather boring. A great issue that NEEDS to be talked about, but considering how exciting football is, and how revelatory Frontline usually is, I was surprised at this one. It was neither revealing nor exciting. |
Turns out the Schaub thing was an error by the media. There were no unruly fans. Houston fans don't do that shit. Tonite I will go egg his house though. who's with me?
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Haha, I was thinking that sounded odd for Houston fans, only Boston or Phillie fans would do that. Even LA wouldn't do that, we'd talk shit and accost a player at the Starbucks or the Howard Hughes Center, but we wouldn't diss them at their house. Interestingly enough, in LA nobody ever gets "star struck" by celebrities or Hollywood actors, they can do things like get coffee or grocery shop without being bombarded by cliched fans, BUT when it comes to athletes? Shit. Those guys are getting bumrushed on the street on sight! As to egging Schaub's house, are the eggs rotten? I'm only down if their rotten, and can we hard boil a few as well?? |
Schaub on if his confidence is being affected: "Not one bit. I have supreme confidence in my ability."
Watt on fans confronting Schaub at home: "At dinner and my house, those are two times I refuse autographs. I think that's reasonable." However, Watt went on to say he is sure he would add other "no autograph" situations to his list once married with kids. Watt on the current Texans situation: "The truth is we've had three tough losses and it's not where we expected to be. I'm a competitor. I'm a fighter. We're gonna find a way. We're proud to be Number One defense but we have to start forcing turnovers." (Texans have forced three turnovers in five games: -8 on the season). Texans first in defense, first in pass defense......sadly, ranked 30th in red zone TD's. CBS Sports Jason LaCanfora believes Case Keenum is next in line to start for Texans |
Its not Schaub alone, its the offensive line and backs who are letting those INT turn into pick-6. If Schaub had 5 INT in the past games, it would be much less a problem, in fact maybe even not a problem at all. Now 4 consecutive pick-6 is a problem, but I don't personally think its on Schaub. And by the way, if y'all can keep up that defense than it will even out, so y'all should hope to stay tuff on that end of the football, and let the offense work it out. Falcons? Done. Sadly.
Hoping the Ravens can carry this momentum and beat Green Bay in Baltimore. Its more likely than its not. I was talking with a friend, and he made the point that to beat Denver teams should focus on offense and try to score a lot of points. Dallas almost beat Denver this way, really, Cowboys lost to themselves more than they lost to the Broncos. Ravens same thing in Game 1, they were ahead at the half, and dropped two passes in the end zone and on pass in the red-zone. In other words, that game could have been 49-41, or even a different game entirely. Denver didn't throw that pick and Broncos would have lost. Dallas and Baltimore are the only teams to lead against Denver at any point in a game this season. Maybe there is something to that. Me? I think that teams should just abandon the pass-rush. Dallas blitzed like crazy and simply couldn't touch Peyton Manning. Denver's O-line is what made Tim Tebow (!!) set all-time NFL PASSING RECORDS IN THE POST-SEASON. Seriously. Real deal offensive line there. So nobody is going to touch Manning. Baltimore has one of the best pash-rushing defenses in the NFL right now, and they couldn't get to Peyton. I say teams should just stop blitzing, and focus on the pass, run, and deep pass. Thomas ran for two TDs against Baltimore. They've scored deep passes 12 times this season. Why waste defenders on a blitz? Go zone and shut out Denver's passing lanes. Focus on a strong defensive line, and stuff Bronco rushers. I think it can work. Its essentially how Baltimore beat Denver in the playoffs last January, but shutting down Peyton's deep passing game and stuffing the run. |
What's wrong with Schaub? - by Sage Rosenfels
http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/11/matt-s...age-rosenfels/ |
I hate the Cowboys but I love the fan reaction of the guy clapping behind Eli in this gif
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Ok. It turns out I didn't see the new Frontline about NFL and brain injury, but an older version. I just saw the new one, fuck. Its not a surprise, but its about as ugly as Food, Inc. NFL lawyers spent decades shutting down and discrediting legitimate medical and scientific research which had several smoking guns to the specific impact of repetitive hits to the head in football and long-term structural brain damage. Fuck. This is worse than how Tim Donaghy shut down NBA for me. I bounced back and starting watching basketball again, because all that scandal proved is what we had already suspected for a long time, that the NBA is often rigged. That isn't a big deal, I like movies and novels, fiction can be entertaining and sociable. However, this NFL issue about safety, in fact, not just the safety of NFL players, but ALL football players in America, from pop-warner kids, to high school kids, to college folks. Now the earlier Frontline about the increasing injuries to kids playing tackle football was revealing enough. I was pretty pissed off about that. I don't understand how we can let teenagers get torn ACLs and ripped Achilles in high school football and concede it as normal? That earlier Frontline demonstrated just how extreme, hard-hitting, and dangerous high school football has become as it increasingly adopts NFL level styles of play. College football too. Now we find out the NFL has been sabotaging medical research for decades to hide the impact of brain injury on players? The NFL sets the example. Kids and teenagers will continue to play football because, "The NFL said its safe." The NFL sets the example. Fucking shit. I'm honestly not sure I can with good conscience follow NFL right now. I'm going to have to step back like I did with the NBA a few years ago. This shit is serious yo.
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and somebody killed Adrian Peterson's son??? Lord have His mercy!!! :(
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Do you really need a study to show that multiple blows to the head isn't good for you? If this is in any way costing tax money, then yes, SHUT IT DOWN. Because I could have told you that. Hey, give me $50 bucks, I'll do a study that shows cutting all of your toes off makes it hard to walk.
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Its not about if multiple blows (and over a career we're talking about six and seven figure numbers) to the head isn't good for you, its are there very specific and measurable risks such as have been discovered for boxing. Increasingly evidence is suggesting yes. Its not about concussions, in fact, unfortunately that is a huge distraction. Its about a degenerative brain condition called CTE which may be able to be specifically linked to NFL players. However, as with the situation for food safety and quality corruption as revealed by Food, Inc. , it seems the NFL has been consistently across decades employing sabotage tactics through lawyers and other methods to hide or discredit the growing consensus. This is different. If football causes a very specific kind of brain degeneration, and the NFL has known this for years, and kept it from players and specifically worked to keep it from anyone, that is a different issue of corruption. Its not surprising, but a smoking gun is needed to begin to knock down the house of cards. |
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This @VinceYoung tweet says it all: Let them know VY is in shape and ready to go! I always loved my birth place and everyone who lives in it IM READY |
Such a classic game between the Saints and Patriots!
![]() If Peyton Manning and Denver win next week, that will be 18 straight wins in a row. 18 straight wins has ONLY been achieved three times before in NFL history: Colts (Manning) 23 Patriots (Brady) 18 & 21 |
I've heard and read so many stats last night and this morning......NONE of them matter when you're 2-4
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