humans, probably.

not sure who else.

a waste of space.

if we are the only life in the galaxy and seeing as how the odds for us coming out as we have are nearly infinetessimal (fuck the stupid vague equations they try to use to determine likelihood of life on planets, thiose are for bacterial life at best.) it could be our "purpose" to seed the entire galaxy with life, transforming it from a barren wasteland,into a teeming living thing.

life is matter that can feed, grow, and replicate itself.

I just hope nobody goes on with that idealistic new age notion that evolution shall be our redemption.

if we didn't exist we'd be less of a waste of space.

the equations aren't for bacterial life.

It's a very bold statement to suggest that our planet is the only one. That it is our purpose to invade every corner of the universe. How very human natured of you.

There is but one redeemer

Not really. The material that constitutes a human body does not fall out of existence upon the death of an individual. Conservation of matter. Same amount of space.

Manifest humanity! Sorry, bro, but you got yourself an is-ought problem.

I'm happy for you to think that, and stay on this planet. :)

test the truth

Done:)

the "equations" that are trumpeted to say that there are at least tens of thousands of advanced civilizations such as ours (if we deem ourselves advanced, heh) take into account very few factors, such as the number of earth like planets supposedly existing around the number of Sol-like stars in the galaxy, plus certain fudge factors such as "likelihood of liquid water" whioch are completely guessed at.

that shit is useless.

the Earth we have come to know,a nd the life on it, is a result not just of being where it is, around this particular sun, but of several large scale collisisons with comets/asteroids, including one that eventually became our moon, which give us tidal foces, and without the tides then multi cellular life may never have evolved, much less human intellignece. not to mention we have fere oxygen in our atmosphere, constantly replenished by plant and single celled algae life. most oxygen, being reafctive, is embedded in oxides throughout the galaxy.
the odds are nearly infinitessimal that another planet would go through exactly what Earth has gone through in the 5 Billion plus years of ti's existance, so as to develop an advanced intelligence in humans that have been around, mnodern humans, for less than 250 thousand years.
homonids and our desecendants have been around for just over a muillion years.

remember that life on earth was at single celled organism stage for upwards of 3 and a half BILLION years.

Life isn't intrinsically valuable.

that is true, but as long as there is advanced life capable of assigning value and meaning to it, life itself is valuable.

Because life is lonely. :(

the closest star to Earth (besides Sol of course) is Proxima Centauri. It is over 4 light years away.

The "shell" of data being broadcast out from Earth (The Earth shines brighter than the Sun due to our endless broadcasting of all frequencies, radio, tv, microwave, etc etc) is only about 60 light years out now, so it only has reached maybe .000001% of the stars in our galaxy.

the odds that one of those stars has intelligent life capable of capturing and decoding that information, much less understanding the Nazi Olympics, is riDONK.

The Galaxy is 100,000 light years across. at least

Life is very long, when yr lonely.

I think the odds are much more likely that every galaxy out there (billions and billions) may have one planet in it that everything happened just right for it to develop lasting sentient life. if that is the case, then we will never ever ever communiocate with them,
Humans are yet to be LASTING, as we have been here for just a blip of existance.
if we are to last longer than the next few thousand years we need to 4expand and move into our solar system, using the resources available to us there.


on the freaky tip, I find it much more liekly that many of the flying saucers and ufo's people see are actually craft and probes sent back in time from humans in the far future.

Living in space would suck ass

woud it suck as much as living on Earth sucks ass for the Billion or so people living in pure destitute poverty and disease?

Yes it would...it would suck even worse....I know what poverty is like..I was born into it and will never escape it...a big black nothing depresses me more

hey, Big Black RULES man!

hahaha.

space is chock full o shit!

Living in a vacuum sucks.

I enjoy readily available oxygen too much to give living in space a try.

Masterpiece.

A lot of old light.

To kill their ancestors?

Regina Spektor?

are "aliens" killing people?

so far they just flit around scaring mexicans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjSqiw2C41U

I was just playfully pointing out the logical impossibility of time travel.

OK Rob! It's pretty..but I still don't want to live there.

string theory along with Einsteinian physics allows for the concept of time travel, BUT it is inter-dimensional, which is to say that you can not go back into time to say a math test you took two weeks ago, if you tried you would only find an alternate/parallel version of yourself taking the math test, but you could not actually go back to your actual self, it is impossible to return backwards into one time-line, but the multi-verse has infinite time-lines intersecting in several directions..

its like Doc explained in Back the Future II

yeps.

So you're agreeing with me. Time travel within out universe is impossible. Those UFOs aren't piloted by people from our future (as Rob suggests) but rather people from another universe.

I've got a couple other questions too:
1. You mention that it is impossible to "return backwards into one time line". Is this like parallel parking? And are you suggesting that it is possible to return frontwards?

2. You say "the multi-verse has infinite time-lines intersecting in several directions". Could you name these "directions" and why are only several rather than an infinite number as there are timelines (it does seem unfair on those poor directions). Also, is hairpin turn one of these directions and what about north by north west? Does he get a look in?

I look forward to hearing from one with such expertise in the field such as yourself.

Your sincerely,
Lurker

physics wise, it is possible to travel into the far future.
it is not possible to return, or to travel into the past, at least not uin this universe.

Time does not exist.
I've heard that in Slacker (1991), but I already knew it.

here are the three dimensions you are familiar with



The fourth dimension is time which is the forward movement along any of the lines on this plane.

blah blah



woof woof

and there are more dimensions than the four we currently understand.
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Ice Cube you knw you rule Hip Hop and..

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(Snoop, C-walk on em)

Time is not the fourth dimension. Time is another dimension that allows to somewhat understand the fourth dimensional in the third dimension. It is similar to an MRI machine that takes two dimensional images of the third dimension over time.

Second dimension of third:


third dimension of fourth:
http://www.gmilburn.ca/2009/09/28/qu...ulia-fractals/

You thought I was being srs with that comment? :confused:

odds are not 'riDONK'. though.

cannot tell "seriousness" over text.
sorry.


the odds that one of those stars has intelligent life capable of capturing and decoding that information, much less understanding the Nazi Olympics, is riDONK.