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SONIC GAIL 02.24.2010 01:21 PM

I like floslo i dont like you. He deserves respect. I have debated with him on occasion about our different opinions. The difference is he respescts me and I respect him.

knox 02.24.2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SONIC GAIL
Originally Posted by knox
And previously, when she defended the right of gun ownership, I did point out the manufacturing of guns in the US feeds a worldwide audience causing crime, death and violence in more countries than she can name, but somehow she thinks that's not anybody's business.


When did I say it was no ones business? You implied this. And yes it is a sad fact that guns manufactured in my country are the tools used to create deaths and crime in other countries.


It's sad but nothing should be done about it? Interesting. It's sad but no one is responsible?
You must like me, Jesus says you must love me.

static-harmony 02.24.2010 01:29 PM

Is this fuss about who has the biggest cock?

SONIC GAIL 02.24.2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
Is this fuss about who has the biggest cock?


no , but i think there is one stuck up knox's ass today

ni'k 02.24.2010 01:33 PM

who the fuck would even want your respect?

static-harmony 02.24.2010 01:36 PM

You guys are funny.

Rob Instigator 02.24.2010 01:36 PM

 

knox 02.24.2010 01:37 PM

when people don't say idiotic shit = they are angry

when people would like something done about the gun industry and their death profits = they hate christians

it's fucking brilliant logic.

SONIC GAIL 02.24.2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
It's sad but nothing should be done about it? Interesting. It's sad but no one is not responsible?
You must like me, Jesus says you must love me.


I replied in the other thread that we need better regulations and they need to be enforced better. I do not believe that all of the problems will be solved by simply eliminating them. Resposibility is on the manufacturers and the government to ensure that the regulations are enforced. I love you I just don't like you. Big difference.

SONIC GAIL 02.24.2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ni'k
who the fuck would even want your respect?


who the fuck cares?

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.24.2010 01:39 PM

 

knox 02.24.2010 01:39 PM

Please don't love me, it's insulting.

SONIC GAIL 02.24.2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
when people don't say idiotic shit = they are angry

when people would like something done about the gun industry and their death profits = they hate christians

it's fucking brilliant logic.


Did you come up with that all by yrself?
It is brilliant you get a gold star on yr chart today.

keep on misreading

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.24.2010 01:43 PM

 

static-harmony 02.24.2010 01:44 PM

Guns will never be eradicated. So in that my opinion is that there should be strong regulations, and mental & criminal background checks. And no more per one gun per household.

knox 02.24.2010 01:45 PM

You see? One moment she's all innocent and respectful and we're the evil bullies who won't leave her alone. The next she's attempting some cliche passive-agressiveness.

ni'k 02.24.2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SONIC GAIL
who the fuck cares?



you


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Originally Posted by SONICGAIL
I like floslo i dont like you. He deserves respect. I have debated with him on occasion about our different opinions. The difference is he respescts me and I respect him.


Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.24.2010 01:46 PM

Aren't people just gonna break gun laws no matter what they are?

static-harmony 02.24.2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Aren't people just gonna break gun laws no matter what they are?


Pretty much. All you can really do is make them hard to get guns.

knox 02.24.2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Aren't people just gonna break gun laws no matter what they are?


possibly.
they already do, but over time you could minimize deaths.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.24.2010 01:50 PM

This thread makes me wish I had a gun so I could bite the bullet.

static-harmony 02.24.2010 01:50 PM

I mean I don't want to sound negative knox, but either way deaths are going to occur either with gun violence or something else.

knox 02.24.2010 01:53 PM

No, there are more homicides in countries in which guns are sold legally.
The US is the champion of homicides with guns, only behind Colombia.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.24.2010 01:54 PM

 

static-harmony 02.24.2010 01:54 PM

I don't know, what about Africa, Mexico, and all those other poor countries where guns are sold illegally?

knox 02.24.2010 01:55 PM

lovely.

knox 02.24.2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
I don't know, what about Africa, Mexico, and all those other poor countries where guns are sold illegally?


still less in numbers.
besides, all those guns used in mexico and colombia are manufactured in the us, so the damage is international.

Africa is not a country tho, and I don't think mexico is considered a poor nation anymore - just to be anal.

static-harmony 02.24.2010 02:00 PM

I know, but you also have to consider that America was founded on fear of the government. And that is still instill on Americans even today.

knox 02.24.2010 02:01 PM

"The level of gun ownership world-wide is directly related to murder and suicide rates and specifically to the level of death by gunfire."
International Correlation between gun ownership and rates of homicide and suicide.' Professor Martin Killias, May 1993.

Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):
Homicide Suicide Other (inc Accident) USA (2001) 3.98 5.92 0.36 Italy (1997) 0.81 1.1 0.07 Switzerland (1998) 0.50 5.8 0.10 Canada (2002) 0.4 2.0 0.04 Finland (2003) 0.35 4.45 0.10 Australia (2001) 0.24 1.34 0.10 France (2001) 0.21 3.4 0.49 England/Wales (2002) 0.15 0.2 0.03 Scotland (2002) 0.06 0.2 0.02 Japan (2002) 0.02 0.04 0


ni'k 02.24.2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
I mean I don't want to sound negative knox, but either way deaths are going to occur either with gun violence or something else.


yeah, but not having a gun around means in a lot of cases death will be avoided.

and the logic that "there will always be guns" is exactly the reason there could be - but since it is only this that stands in the way of a gun free world i think we've got a good chance.

static-harmony 02.24.2010 02:03 PM

I really wish there would be a gun free world, but I just have given up on that.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.24.2010 02:04 PM

 

ni'k 02.24.2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
I really wish there would be a gun free world, but I just have given up on that.


and if you accept that that's why there won't be. i'm not advocating that you beat yourself up with hope that's going to get crushed, i think all you need is to be able to not loose sight of the possiblity and realise that this is what we should all want.

besides, eventually there won't be any guns left no matter what, we might not be around either then but still.

warfare will most likely evolve beyond the use of guns by some point. it might get worse in many ways - but i'm sure a possible upside to these kind of technological advancements might be weapons that can incapacitate without causing any damage or pain.

static-harmony 02.24.2010 02:10 PM

Warfare will evolve onto a germ war.

chicka 02.24.2010 02:18 PM

wow go away for a few days and the sparks they do fly...I see no reason for guns or gun ownership. You want to hunt get a bow and arrow make it a real sport give the animal a chance. If there were no guns for criminals why would cops need them? Look at those death statistics Knox posted. Imagine that gone. As long as the NRA lobby exists there will be guns.
Chaney shoots a guy and they claim hunting accident haha My money is on Chaney shot a little high and missed. He's was above the law and knew he could get away with.

Hey ST America was not built on fear of the government it was suppose to be for the "people by the people". Unfortunately the people representing the people got big heads and greedy pockets, and could be bought by those people who had cash and lots of it.....

davenotdead 02.24.2010 02:32 PM

I personally know women who keep guns in their purses/cars, and I know one woman who is barely 5 feet tall and she warded off a man trying to break her car window while she was sitting in the driver seat. he punched it and cracked it, and was about to rear back for another, when she pulled out her pistol. needless to say, that bitch ran.

And I served on a Grand jury for a summer. Most guns at crime scenes, and I mean the vast majority, were obtained illegally. They scratch off the serial numbers.

knox 02.24.2010 02:51 PM

All of these guns were legally purchased at some point. Everyone knows of ONE in which that someone sucessfully managed to "defend" themselves, but they all seem to forget in the great majority of the cases increases the chances of a criminal attempt ending in tragedy, gun ownership increases the chances of domestic homicide, impulsive homicide and suicide.

Keeping It Simple 02.24.2010 03:01 PM

The mindset in the UK has always been if you're soft over gun ownership, like in the US, it's a recipe for disaster, which has been proven in the US. That's why gun laws in the UK is the strictest in the world, and street police are unarmed. You only have to watch Bowling for Columbine to know that.

davenotdead 02.24.2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
All of these guns were legally purchased at some point. Everyone knows of ONE in which that someone sucessfully managed to "defend" themselves, but they all seem to forget in the great majority of the cases increases the chances of a criminal attempt ending in tragedy, gun ownership increases the chances of domestic homicide, impulsive homicide and suicide.


well most women i know would rather die than be beaten and raped by a black dude with an aids dick

knox 02.24.2010 03:17 PM

Considering the estimates that 1 in between 5 women is a victim of rape, you could say they usually still rather live, which they should, despite anything.

wait, hold on. sorry you said black dude.


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