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Severian 05.13.2017 01:36 PM

Trump now admits he fired Comey because of Russia investigation

Maybe this has already made the rounds -- I can't be arsed to sort through all that I've missed since my last visit to this wondrous place -- but just in case...

What the fuck is even happening right now?

!@#$%! 05.13.2017 05:04 PM

Donald Trump Is Waging a War on Workers
On almost every measure, Trump is making life worse for the working class.


"...This war on workers isn’t a bug, but a feature of a White House that has turned its economic plan over to Goldman Sachs alums and stocked its cabinet with “billionaires, bankers and bigots,” in the words of Senator Elizabeth Warren. Trump could have pushed to forge a bipartisan coalition to back his populist promises. Instead he chose to let the Republican majority in Congress, driven by the radical Freedom Caucus, define his priorities. In his first months in office, he has betrayed the voters who put him there.

The question is when they will finally understand what has happened. Trump keeps posturing as a populist. The outrage of the day—from Comey to the Kushner family business in China—captures media attention. Policy is complicated, but the story is clear. Trump is betraying his promise on jobs and shafting workers. Progressives should make certain this reality isn’t lost in the din."

https://www.thenation.com/article/do...ar-on-workers/

!@#$%! 05.13.2017 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Who's worse? Kissinger or Trump?

trump is the worst

as for foreign policy, i'd much rather have kissinger in charge than a monomaniac neocon

ilduclo 05.14.2017 07:27 AM

Also, Kissingers horrible crimes are in the past, Trimp's are sadly yet to come. That picture looks worse than anything, though...

Severian 05.14.2017 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
trump is the worst

as for foreign policy, i'd much rather have kissinger in charge than a monomaniac neocon


Yes, but I've heard it argued that Kissinger helped pave the way for Trump. Bit of a leap of you ask me, but whatever.

It was in a shitty documentary that somehow made it onto BBC2 or something. Looked like it was filmed by some really shitty film students.

tesla69 05.14.2017 03:00 PM

Kissinger is reviled by many left-leaning observers of foreign policy. They consider him an amoral egotist who enabled dictators, extended the Vietnam War, laid the path to the Khmer Rouge killing fields, stage-managed a genocide in East Timor, overthrew the democratically elected left-wing government in Chile, and encouraged Nixon to wiretap his political adversaries.

tesla69 05.14.2017 03:01 PM

In a deal that will allow one broadcasting company to reach 72 percent of U.S. households through ownership of local news stations, it was reported this week that Sinclair Broadcast Group is buying Tribune Media for nearly $4 billion.
Such a move wouldn’t have been possible a few weeks back, but Donald Trump’s new Federal Trade Commission (FCC) chairman, Ajit Pai, just began implementing sweeping changes to previously established media ownership rules. Bloomberg

The Soup Nazi 05.14.2017 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
Kissinger is reviled by many left-leaning observers of foreign policy. They consider him an amoral egotist who enabled dictators, extended the Vietnam War, laid the path to the Khmer Rouge killing fields, stage-managed a genocide in East Timor, overthrew the democratically elected left-wing government in Chile, and encouraged Nixon to wiretap his political adversaries.


All true, no argument here. (Seriously, I'm not being sarcastic).

The Soup Nazi 05.14.2017 06:16 PM

Re: Net Neutrality

https://www.gofccyourself.com/

The Soup Nazi 05.16.2017 09:42 PM

So this is going pretty well, huh?

 

!@#$%! 05.16.2017 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Yes, but I've heard it argued that Kissinger helped pave the way for Trump. Bit of a leap of you ask me, but whatever.

It was in a shitty documentary that somehow made it onto BBC2 or something. Looked like it was filmed by some really shitty film students.

"i've heard it argued"?

lololo

tesla69 05.17.2017 06:18 AM

http://12160.info/video/fox-5-dc-set...ource=activity

was the guy who leaked the DNC emails, the Podesta pedophilia material that is so quickly suppressed...executed on the streets of freedom loving america

The corporate broadcasting networks are full-on soviet-style propaganda. NPR is getting repulsive, weaving victim stories with the latest RUSSIA propaganda.

!@#$%! 05.17.2017 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
http://12160.info/video/fox-5-dc-set...ource=activity

was the guy who leaked the DNC emails, the Podesta pedophilia material that is so quickly suppressed...executed on the streets of freedom loving america

The corporate broadcasting networks are full-on soviet-style propaganda. NPR is getting repulsive, weaving victim stories with the latest RUSSIA propaganda.

sure, pizzagate, sure

if you repeat it enough times it will be all true

Severian 05.17.2017 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
"i've heard it argued"?

lololo


Now I'm sad

"Laugh out loud out loud out?"

Severian 05.17.2017 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
sure, pizzagate, sure

if you repeat it enough times it will be all true


Why do you keep replying to him? He's deep trolling like whaaaat.

evollove 05.17.2017 09:46 AM

He's not trolling at all. I'm sure he really thinks Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC.

Maybe he was. There's not a single shred of evidence pointing to this. The family doesn't suspect the dnc. The cops don't. This private investigator Wheeler fellow changed his story yesterday afternoon, puncturing the whole conspiracy theory. But maybe.

Severian 05.17.2017 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
He's not trolling at all. I'm sure he really thinks Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC.

Maybe he was. There's not a single shred of evidence pointing to this. The family doesn't suspect the dnc. The cops don't. This private investigator Wheeler fellow changed his story yesterday afternoon, puncturing the whole conspiracy theory. But maybe.


That's weird. Just read a pseudo-story by a pseudo-journalist on Medium about this. The conveniently timed story was about the "convenient" timing of the Washington Post's Trussia story.

It's like hipocrisy has become an actual tangible (and formidable) thing. Something you can hold in your very hands, but somehow not crush. Like a tick.

Severian 05.17.2017 10:40 AM

Even if he believes it, he's still trolling, trying to provoke, etc.

http://pitchfork.com/news/70878-arre...lix-announced/

^ Impeachment's on the floor (from a Dem, but still)

ilduclo 05.17.2017 12:15 PM

downloaded this the other day. Looks to be pretty good. Apparently he's involved in blood fucking diamonds, too (along with Pat Fucking Robertson)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdZ-RbL7pmw

The Soup Nazi 05.17.2017 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
[brain death]


Let's keep our focus on the ball, peoples... Well, balls. LOTTA balls.

The Soup Nazi 05.17.2017 06:28 PM

Robert Mueller, Former FBI Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

The Soup Nazi 05.17.2017 06:56 PM

From Demand Progress. DONATE to keep alive the campaign described below.

Quote:

Tomorrow (May 15), FCC Commissioner and former Verizon lawyer Ajit Pai will formally introduce his plan to kill net neutrality.

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We're launching an emergency campaign to call on members of the House, Senate, and FCC to reject the attack on net neutrality.

Congress could force Pai to back down if we make it undeniable that his plan to kill net neutrality is completely toxic.

The Senate hasn't even voted yet on whether to confirm Pai to his full term as FCC Chair — a sign of just how rushed and radical this whole process is. Pai's plan to kill net neutrality needs to be the top issue in that vote.

The House of Representatives also holds the purse strings for the FCC, and of course the White House could shut Pai's whole plan down if they felt enough pressure.

We need to make sure EVERYONE in Washington, D.C. knows how unpopular Pai's plan really is — and that they will be held accountable if they don't fight to save net neutrality.

To make that happen, we're pulling out all the stops:

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When John Oliver urged people to tell the FCC not to gut net neutrality, so many people took action that he crashed their website.

But Ajit Pai wants to move forward his plan to "take a weed whacker" to net neutrality anyway.

Thanks for standing with us,

Kurt Walters, Demand Progress

!@#$%! 05.17.2017 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Now I'm sad

"Laugh out loud out loud out?"


in the 80s maybe, but some time likely before 1997 "lol" became the laugh itself not just the acronym. no?

 


but anyway yeah what was the argument if at all? hearsay or not, im curious as to the nature of such fabulous chimera. i mean, a claim like that needs to be backed up somehow.

!@#$%! 05.17.2017 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
He's not trolling at all. I'm sure he really thinks Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC.

Maybe he was. There's not a single shred of evidence pointing to this. The family doesn't suspect the dnc. The cops don't. This private investigator Wheeler fellow changed his story yesterday afternoon, puncturing the whole conspiracy theory. But maybe.

the family is actually outraged that the teslas of this world are exploiting the death for their perfidious ends

The Soup Nazi 05.17.2017 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
in the 80s maybe, but some time likely before 1997 "lol" became the laugh itself not just the acronym. no?


Up to a certain point during the '90s, "LOL" was used by doctors and nurses in hospitals as an acronym for "little old lady". I know it because I watched E.R., so it must be true. :)

The Soup Nazi 05.17.2017 07:45 PM

Pieces of shit:

Fox News Makes Outrageous Accusation About Noam Chomsky
A new low for the right-wing fake news outlet.

Not that I really care what Fox News, out of all trolls, say, but still: Pieces. Of. SHIT.

Severian 05.17.2017 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
but anyway yeah what was the argument if at all? hearsay or not, im curious as to the nature of such fabulous chimera. i mean, a claim like that needs to be backed up somehow.


I thought I said it was in a documentary I found in BBC... 2? Definitely didn't feel legit. I can't remember the exact argument, but Kissinger was juxtaposed with Trump and then '80s punks were lambasted and then I left the room.

Pretty sure I mentioned this. I didn't mean that I felt that way. Was just bringing up a funky documentary I saw that seemed too shit for BBC by miles. Granted I saw it on someone's jail broken Firestick and Roku system (I don't really get that stuff).

Anyway, not sure about the whatever and whatnot.

Btw: "lol" was not standard vernacular in 1997. Seriously?
Or was it? What the hell, I actually don't know.

Goddamn you.

!@#$%! 05.17.2017 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
I thought I said it was in a documentary I found in BBC... 2? Definitely didn't feel legit. I can't remember the exact argument, but Kissinger was juxtaposed with Trump and then '80s punks were lambasted and then I left the room.

Pretty sure I mentioned this. I didn't mean that I felt that way. Was just bringing up a funky documentary I saw that seemed too shit for BBC by miles. Granted I saw it on someone's jail broken Firestick and Roku system (I don't really get that stuff).

Anyway, not sure about the whatever and whatnot.

Btw: "lol" was not standard vernacular in 1997. Seriously?
Or was it? What the hell, I actually don't know.

Goddamn you.


see, that's not quotable there at all. that documentary. it's like when trump sez shit like "people are saying that it's the biggest inauguration ever"

sure. people. are saying!

that's... well, irrefutable, right?

i don't see the connection there.

but anyway. LOL is very old, yeah. so it's now onomatopoeic because we actually laugh like that. bha ha ha ha

tesla69 05.17.2017 09:05 PM

Hateful graffiti that was spray painted on an Indianapolis church in November has been revealed to be a “false flag” to spread fear, done by someone opposed to Donald Trump winning the presidency.

The vandalism, which included the words “Heil Trump” and a gay slur, was actually done by George Nathaniel Stang, 26, who is a gay man himself, and a member of the church.

On Wednesday, Stang was charged with a misdemeanor by Brown County Prosecutor Ted Adams.

Stang claims that he vandalized St. David's Episcopal Church in an attempt to upset people into “mobilizing a movement” after the election.

The Soup Nazi 05.17.2017 09:13 PM


Good article (I think; I'm not a damn lawyer) on the relevance of this clusterfuckery's terminology:

Special counsel, special prosecutor: What's the difference?

Key bit:

Quote:

"Prosecutors are not journalists, and their job is not to inform the public of the results of their investigations," Zeidenberg wrote. "Rather, their mission is to gather all of the relevant facts and determine whether a crime was committed and, if so, whether it can be proved in court beyond a reasonable doubt. Their work, when done properly, is done in secret."

That means that if critical evidence was found in the case but it was in, say, Russia and therefore unobtainable, "then it would be improper to seek an indictment. Critically, the entire investigation would then remain secret. It would be a violation of law for a prosecutor to make public the results of a grand jury investigation that did not result in an indictment."

So we sure as shit still need the Post and the Times...

evollove 05.18.2017 08:01 AM

Rest In Discomfort, Mr. Ailes.

ilduclo 05.18.2017 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Up to a certain point during the '90s, "LOL" was used by doctors and nurses in hospitals as an acronym for "little old lady". I know it because I watched E.R., so it must be true. :)



Along with FLK for funny looking kid. On a happier note, Jabba Ailes won't be enjoying a log retirement on the golf course

!@#$%! 05.18.2017 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
Ailes.


 

Severian 05.18.2017 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
see, that's not quotable there at all. that documentary. it's like when trump sez shit like "people are saying that it's the biggest inauguration ever"

sure. people. are saying!

that's... well, irrefutable, right?

i don't see the connection there.


Yah neither do I. I was actually hoping someone might clue me in, since I abandoned the documentary when it started showing Patti Smith hanging out in her apartment as confirmation of death of the counter-culture, and I don't know the title.

Anyway, shouldn't have said "I've heard it argued..." I knew that was a clunky way to phrase it when I wrote it, and knew it was a non-existent point. But if anyone knows the documentary I'm thinking of, let me know!

It contained a snippet of Yanka Dyagileva's "My Sorrow is Luminous" (great fucking song that I wasn't aware of before seeing this doc), so if anyone happened to see it, I'm interested in seeing exactly what kind of propaganda it is.

And yes I know better than using "everyone's saying it" logic. That's Trump logic. That's non-logic. Anti-logic. I'm ashamed.

(Seriously though, that's a great song... everyone listen to it)

!@#$%! 05.18.2017 12:23 PM

^^ i only pestered you about it cuz i know you're good btw

ilduclo 05.18.2017 03:56 PM

ding-dong-the-witch-is-dead

"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." -- Mark Twain

Severian 05.18.2017 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
^^ i only pestered you about it cuz i know you're good btw


I know, dog. We cool.

Rob Instigator 05.18.2017 04:19 PM

Did Trumpo mention how he was the original bassist for Soundgarden before Hiro?

The Soup Nazi 05.18.2017 06:47 PM

Once again, Re: Net Neutrality from Demand Progress; I wouldn't have to post it if these pieces of shit weren't so desperately trying to FUCK US. Please donate if you can.

Quote:

They did it. They actually voted to initiate the repeal of net neutrality.

On a party-line vote, the FCC voted for the first step of Chairman Ajit Pai's plan to hand control of the internet to giant telecom corporations.

Comcast and Verizon may have won this battle, but they have not won the war.

Today's vote was just the first step in the FCC's rule-making process. We have until July 17 to put as much pressure as possible not only on the FCC, but also on Congress and the White House, to keep net neutrality rules in place.

The reason we can stop this plan is because gutting net neutrality is massively unpopular. So many people have made online comments against this plan that the FCC's website crashed.

We need to make sure that Republicans in the House, Senate, and White House all understand that if the FCC goes forward with handing over control of the internet to Comcast and their big telecom brethren, they will be held accountable.

We have 60 days to keep net neutrality front and center in the political spotlight.

Thanks for standing with us,

David Segal, Demand Progress

The Soup Nazi 05.18.2017 07:52 PM

Pretty good one from The Washington Post:

 


Is Donald Trump a witch?


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