Get along to the Bristol show. Give us a shout if you're going. I think it's not K. Salvatore, I've a feeling they're a different band... still, if it were, that would be most exciting.

The Thekla is a club on a boat, it's great, they've got a new PA in recent years. Nice and loud. I know one of the support acts, should be a very good show.

Envious if you do, but I can't be far behind. I have about 30 Haino albums, including most PSF Fushisusha and the paratactile one.

Have you heard the recent one, artwork by S O'Malley? It's 2-CDs, one electronic gizmos and things, the other hurdy gurdy. It's an absolute blinder. It doesn't seem to want a name though.

Thanks for that, Live Skull seems ok, but nothing special.


Yeah, I heard Nattering... yesterday and it came across as something that needs further investigations.


Wow, that's beyond amazing. As far as I know, you might win.
I don't have that much Circle albums, about 12 plus one 7". There's a lot more to go.

I don't have a single Circle album (downloads NEVER count), but I have seen them live. Very good live band.

Even though they are far from being a band that i enjoy regularly,i love the hour long version of 'Pink lady lemonade' on the compilation below:

yeah, i thought that one was ok, but not a stand out. i'm curious for this new 2CD sitar orchestra one, i should order it before it sells out.my favourite recentish haino record is Next Let Us Try Changing The Shape

i've probably got about 30 haino records too, 12 of which are these fushitsusha records:

untitled
PSF - PSF 3/4

untitled
PSF - PSF 15/16

"Hisou" (Pathetique)
PSF - PSFD 50

"The Caution Appears"
Les disques du soleil et de l'acier - CDSA 54039 -

"A Death Never To Be Complete"
Tokuma Japan Communications - TKCF 77014 -

"The Time is Nigh"
Tokuma Japan Communications - TKCF 77015 -

"A Little Longer Thus"
Tokuma Japan Communications - TKCF 77020 -

"The Wisdom Prepared"
Tokuma Japan Communications - TKCF 77021 -


"Withdrawe, this sable Disclosure ere devot'd"
Les Disques Victo - VICTO 060

I saw it! That which before I could only sense...
Paratactile -- PLE1106/07-2

Origin's Hesitation
PSF -- PSFD 8010

It was eternity that reached out first...
PSF -- PSFD 8016

Wot, no Gold Blood?

PSF 3/4 & 15/16 are 'live' 1 & 2, no?

I thought Gold Blood was far less essential than 15/16.
It sure was nice to have an inexpensive domestic release by them, though, and I still like it.

gold blood tends to go for a heftyish whack on ebay now, or at least the few copies i've seen have (£40 approx). i'm more intersted in getting the the 2CD on blastfirst, the one on avant, or most of all the soul's true love boxset.

yep live 1 & 2 are psf 3/4 & 15/16 i just copied and pasted that list of titles from a haino discography, blame them.

You're kidding!
Wow, I bought that for nine dollars!

No blaming to be done, I just had a brief palipitation at the possibility of records I wasn't aware of being out there.

Gold Blood does indeed go for an arseload of money now. Buy cheap, sell high, that's my motto. Although, obviously, I wouldn't be stupid enough to sell any Fushitsusha records.

yeah, even the few i don't really like i wouldn't sell. just incase.

anyway, i expect you've probably seen this, but if you haven't there an extensice haino discography at this site http://poisonpie.com/sounds/haino/

Indeed I have seen it. But thankyou anyway. It's a great site for those psf records that refuse to have any discernible information regarding the album title/ players on the record.

Out of curiousity, what's your fave Haino record (excluding fushitsusha)?

I'm going for Nijuima or the duo with Shoji Hano.

Actually, looking at that discography, I really should invest in his thing with Boris. And the Faust album he's on.

Curses, I thought I was doing so well with Haino, and there's still bloody thousands of the buggers to buy.

*Edit: Bollocks. There's loads of great records out there. I forgot the solo acoustic one and the Kan Mikami one. In fact, the majority of them are ace. Apart from affection, which I never got into.

me thoughts:

mouthus: yes, slow gloves is very awesome, totally worth getting; the first one is a little more unfocused but still packs a good punch. the new one, the long salt, i recommend highly.

man is the bastard: i've heard very little but i can say they are very good.

born against: i could never get into them, to me, they are too generic, especially when people compare them to angel hair and antioch arrow, which can't be further from the fact. i recommend you check out life's blood, which is one of the dude's from born against's band before ba, it's way better in my opinion.

high rise: ohh my god!!! they rule!!! also, mainliner and musica transonic worth checking if you get into hr.

wooden wand: contrary to what has been stated, they are not the epitome of lameness in the underground (there are things a million times worse), they go from pretty cool background music to ok explorations. xiao and darkness on the edge of town and l'un marquer... are pretty cool. flood is supposed to be really great but i haven't heard it.

bardo pond: it's been said but bufo alvarius, amanita, LAPSED and, for a mellower sound, dilate; actually, try and check out their not so available stuff like their vol. series (there's a compilation of their volumes 1 thru 4) since their experimental stuff shines as much as the official albums.

isis: get oceanic, then proceed. some people don't like the doomier early stuff, and some don't like their cleaner evolution on their panopticon album, but some do. i know i do.

anaal nathrakh: i heard domine non es dignus and i can't say i loved it, i might give it a second chance, but to me it was kinda like bland, keyboard-driven black metal, not too good.

polvo: today's active lifestyles!!!

cccc: very good, i only have cosmic coincidence control center and i'm told it's one of their worse albums, but it's really great.

front 242: dancy 80's industrial like nitzer ebb, front line assembly, skinny puppy, etc. except skinny puppy are way better than any of those bands, since they always had an edge and never tried to go for a hit single.

pissed jeans: not very impressed, sounds like the bulk of mid 90's amp rep records.

mountain: are we talking leslie west's mountain from the 60's/70's? then i've heard some good stuff, very boogie oriented hard rock from the era, kinda like cream but more rocking.

nurse with wound: haven't heard enough to really recommend.

throbbing gristle: same as nww

saccharine trust: interesting post punk band from sst, pagan icons is short but sweet, sort of like wire, gang of four (minus the funky bassist) and the fall but with a bit more edge.

tar babies: i have the mastertapes compilation where they appear, they are cool but not earth shattering; midwestern hardcore.

meat puppets: meat puppets II is awesome; i just got into them.

discharge: hear nothing, see nothing, say nothing

blind idiot god: s/t, which is all i've heard so far, it's awesome.

smegma: nattering naybobs of negativity

redman: kinda lame rapper

pelican: the fire in our throats will beckon the thaw!!!

borbetomagus: barbed wired maggots

peter brötzmann: machine gun

vibracathedral: versatile arab chord chart!!

ash ra temple: 1971's s/t (i haven't really gotten into them yet) you can download it here (you'll need to search for it): http://8daysinapril.blogspot.com/ (hurry because this blog is about to be shut down)

fushitsusha: t&b is definitely the expert here.

amon düül II: yeti and tanz der lemming

loop: anything you can get, definitely worth it!

ride: nowhere

serena maneesh: i really don't see why people like this band, very second rate shoegazer reenactors.

black flag: get damaged first, then the first four years compilation, then my war, then proceed at your own risk.

mission of burma: definitely start with vs.

butthole surfers: in my opinion, get locust abortion technician and go backwards, ignore everything beyond locust abostion...

khanate: they are not that groundbreaking and definitely very dificult to get into. things viral seems to be their masterpiece.

HOLY SMOKES!! Check out this site if you're interested in Krautrock, its a goldmine.

Are you serious? Just go to yr local indie store. I know the one in my city has some of their stuff. Even though I live in a tiny city with nothing in it.

And if all else fails, just download it from the internet.

yeah, adII's yeti is in there too.

i really like Next Let Us Try Changing The Shape a lot, and Koko is great, as is the collaboartion with COA and the one with jean-francois pauvros.

which nijiumu record his that, his solo one or nijiumu - era of sad wings?

i've never heard affection, but it always gets sited as being one of his best solo records, what's it like & how come you don't like it?

I think Haino looks especially womanly on the cover of Affection.