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atsonicpark 12.30.2008 01:03 PM

You'd never noticed the banjo string? He uses it in like every song! You've never wondered how he gets that weird sound?

Also, Raster-Norton has GOEM on it! And NHK. Those two artists alone are amongst my favorite electronic musicians. Even if there is some wank on the label, a lot of those musicians are doing something different in the "mostly just beats and no melodies" experimental electronic music field that autechre works in...

Also, Nevermind is predictable as hell. Versus, chorus, verse, chorus, guitar solo that follows the chorus exactly, chorus. You can argue that about most popular music. And there are a few songs on there that dont' follow that pattern (Drain You).. I'm just saying, it's not a terrible innovative album.

PAULYBEE2656 12.30.2008 01:04 PM

right i got one and this will end the arguement for the moment
 


or maybe this one too....
 


ok, im being serious about the last one!

atsonicpark 12.30.2008 01:05 PM

Also, why are you saying HUH? ... Do you not know the difference between soft synths and hard synths? That's the only thing I can think of, as I explained everything else quite well...

atsonicpark 12.30.2008 01:05 PM

yeah coping mechanisms IS the shit! Never heard anything like it.

I think that we are all in agreement that, yes, there has been way too much musicial innovation since 1990.

PAULYBEE2656 12.30.2008 01:06 PM

GAH.. I NEVER SAID NEVERMIND WAS INNOVATIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!


ha! best thread ever!!!

atsonicpark 12.30.2008 01:07 PM

No, I know the point you were making now, I was just replied to greedrex.

PAULYBEE2656 12.30.2008 01:08 PM

sorry! im hungry.. dinnertime!!

si supported stereolab the other week in dublin.... i missed it but it was supposed to be fantastic.. his new stuff is slowly getting sorted.....

greedrex 12.30.2008 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Also, why are you saying HUH? ... Do you not know the difference between soft synths and hard synths? That's the only thing I can think of, as I explained everything else quite well...

i say huh cuz to me softawe synth is so common i would have imagined it used in popular releases before the Ricahrd D james LP, but i must be wrong.

and no i had never noticed the banjo string business in LB. Will mre careful next time i listen, is this the higher string?

✌➬ 12.30.2008 01:10 PM

I find myself immersed into the whole electro music scene, to me that is where it's at right now. Rock hasn't been interesting since the early 2000's, there has been few here and there, but not many.

Also people are trying way too hard to be avant-garde that it is not appealing.

greedrex 12.30.2008 01:10 PM

never heard of si shroeder or never seen the other artwork above it.
wtf, i have no clue, i'm quitting this board




























































to get some dinner
laters.

atsonicpark 12.30.2008 01:10 PM

Yeah, but soft synths in 1996? I'd say his album was one of the first. Hell, most people didn't even own computers, much less ones capable of running the more high-end software in 1996.

And yeah, that wobbly high pitched "wer wer wowww" sound in a lot of LB songs is a banjo string. He used to play a 4 string banjo and had the 4th string replaced with a banjo string. Now he uses a 5 string bass.. with the 5th string being a banjo string.

atsonicpark 12.30.2008 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ✌➬
I find myself immersed into the whole electro music scene, to me that is where it's at right now.


Yep. That and noise musics is where the avant garde is at. I said that 6 pages ago, where were you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...

I'm kidding, but in all seriousness, with all the cheap musical equipment available, the ability for people with computers to emulate any synth or effect, and more and more people just recording albums in their houses and shit... we're truely in a great time for new, sexy, innovative music.

Though most of it will be shit.

Glice 12.30.2008 01:17 PM

I'm still pushing the envelope marked 'spectralism'. I'm also of the opinion that the world hasn't quite come to terms with Messiaen yet.

PAULYBEE2656 12.30.2008 01:18 PM

greedrex..... clear out your pms....

here is the si schroeder album

coping mechanisms (2006trustmeimatheif)

his artists page on the t m a i t label

trustmeimatheif store

greedrex 12.30.2008 04:28 PM

^^ you rule Pauly
dling this baby , i see it's RDM 's label, must be interesting stuff.
thank you so much

demonrail666 12.30.2008 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I'm not sure if there's any point in worrying about innovation when it comes to rock music.


agreed.

PAULYBEE2656 12.30.2008 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
^^ you rule Pauly
dling this baby , i see it's RDM 's label, must be interesting stuff.
thank you so much


very interesting...
the rednecks and si are long term benchmarks of the dublin scene... simon should be huge over here but alas no...... and he is such a true gentleman as well..

enjoy it, its a brilliant album.

Florya 12.30.2008 06:23 PM

Thanks for the Si Schroeder link Paul.
Sounds interesting.

sarramkrop 12.30.2008 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
I'm still pushing the envelope marked 'spectralism'. I'm also of the opinion that the world hasn't quite come to terms with Messiaen yet.

if it did everything would start sounding lame.

atsonicpark 12.30.2008 07:06 PM

I read a review today where an album was described as "Messiaen-like" today. Can't even remember whose album. Aidan Baker or something.


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