beat's not bad

you have a point there. 6 Foot 7 Foot is easily the best track on C4 to me though. i just need a good indication for Wayne's current rapping ability.

all this hype building up right now with Wayne rapping better on his recent features, saying he's gonna stop rapping about pussy, calling it his retirement album, etc.. makes me think Tha Carter 5 is going to be special.

http://pitchfork.com/news/54422-raek...versary-album/

"I would be the first one to say that we cannot leave everything in RZA’s hand no more," Rae says. "He has done his job to the greatest of his ability when we were younger, but now every man plays an imperative role in this situation. His plan was to do a more humble album. We was like, Nah. You can't do that with the hardest group in the game."

damn.

To me, this is the equivalent of John and Paul arguing over the direction of Let it Be. The fact that Ghostface wants in on the production is even reminiscent of George being like "Oi, assholes, obviously I'm ridiculously talented. Stop hogging the glory and making all the motherfucking decisions."

I hate to say it, but if there's an official Wu-Tang album coming out that RZA, Gza, Raekwon, and Ghostface all disagree about, then I almost don't want it being released under the Wu-Tang Clan name at all. If those four aren't on the same page about the album, it's going to be a failure before it even comes out.

Rae needs to be more open minded about what hip hop is, and where hip hop is at the moment. That said, RZA is a man to be trusted. He's been the driving force behind the band's musical direction since say one, so RZA being in charge is kind of the nucleus of Wu Tang, and the reason Wu Tang Clan records sound so different from the (equally badass) solo efforts. RZA knows what the fuck he's doing, and I really hate the idea of infighting within the Clan.

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I'm afraid to listen to the song. This album is BIG for me. If louder is already calling it whack, then.... Shit. What a fucking disappointment.

I'm bummin' y'all.

I for one think that a 'humble album' makes sense. I'd hold faith in Rza's vision.

The beat on this track reminds me of old Wu. (The chorus sucks though).

But what I'm getting at is this: yeah they have all the $ they could need to make the biggest album they want. But y'know what Wu album I totally adore? The W. That album is amazing and part of it to me is that it sounds so low budget. Like, they had all this $ and fame and had done this sprawling big $$$ double album, and then it sounds like Rza just went back to analog and cheap gear on The W. There's imperfections all over the place. Weird mixing. It's awesome.

If something like that were made to celebrate 20 years of Wu, I'd be thrilled. Forming some kind of trilogy of Enter The Wu-Tang, The W, and this.


The Wayne stuff, so hope your'e right louder. C5 should be great. That sort of talent doesn't go away, but dude's been lazy.

Though I still contend there's tons to like on C4. Then again, I'm also the guy who says that if you cut about half the tracks off of IANAHB2 that you'd have a really good album - so who am I to say? Haha.

Hey so what's the deal with this YG ninja?
His album is ridiculously cheap at a really crap chain store. Kinda thinking it won't be here for long. I see decent guest appearances, and I really don't want to have to buy YOUNG MONEY. (I don't care if it's got Minaj and Drake and blah blah blah, it's just a bitchass imprint comp, which are notorious for satisfying fans in between studio albums. Beside, Cruel Summer already took that format, legitimized it, and made it impossible to hear one without wishing you were hearing Cruel Summer!!

Seriously, YG. You're a fan, right louder?

Here we are. Still not clear on your final opinion on it. My search was inconclusive on that particular piece of the should-I-buy-this? puzzle.

I have no idea on YG.

BTW, the first Young Money album was solid. But I don't have a lot of faith in this new one.

Yeah, the first was solid. But how long ago was that one released? Wasn't it the same year as Carter III? Of course it was solid.

I think the time has come and gone for the era that birthed Lil Wayne's solo success. Drake is adapting by following other adaptive rappers and expanding his sound. Niki is... Frankly, probably kind of over, since she has not proven herself to be the most reliable playa in the game when it comes to releasing decent albums. Who else is there? Anyway... Weezy should have adapted and never attempted another genetic Mustard club banger.

But maybe he's like this generation's Kool Keith. Maybe he's still got a Dr. Octagon in him. Though it's not likely if he plans on no longer rapping about pussy.

Wtf is that about anyway? Pussy is all over Yeezus. I think it's a sign that a career is at an end when an artist starts saying, "I'm gonna do better." It's sad. May Kanye West never publicly utter those words.

Don't you ever compare these pussyclot ninjaz to the pure artistic rap genius that is Kool Keith/The Black Elvis/Dr Octagon/Dr Dooom/Diesel Trucker/Sinister 6000/Poppa Large/Mr. Green/Rhythm X/Willie Natural/Fly Ricky the Wine Taster/Klean Man/Reverend Tom/Keith Turb/Robbie Analog(one of my all-time fav RZA disses)/Willie Biggs/Mr Gerbick/Mr Nagacto ever fucking again, or I and they WILL take flight on yo a$$!



Honestly, what tha fuck do you GOT ON THAT YO

old school yo

speaking of which, here are the ORIGINAL SYG HipHopRap threads.. notice me and Rob are on it ;)

Edit: Adam posted on there, and fuckin shit I'm drunk enough that it quite literally made me fucking cry.. Should I also post this BitchAboutShitThatIsPissingYouOff/OnlyPostIfYoureCompletelyWasted/GoodNightSweetPrince ??

his album is alright.

i would rather you buy the Freddie Gibbs & Madlib album. :p

no... if memory serves it came out mid or late 2009, around his No Ceilings mixtape. That sounds right. And then Rebirth/IANAHB was 2010.

Nikki kills when she guest-verses on stuff. But I can't listen to her for a full album. Drake is great of course. But none of this matters, becuz Nikki, Drake & Wayne seem to be on like less than half of the new YM album.

Which seems really stupid because then what the heck was the Rich Gang album? Confusing. I figured Rich Gang (such a stupid name - why didn't they just keep Young Money Cash Money Billionaires?) was supposed to be the album that showed all the supporting cast, and then I figured we'd get a proper YM album that was really just those 3 as the stars.

her first two albums kinda suck but i'm gonna give her new one a chance when it comes out.

yeah i don't really know what they're doing.. they'll probably never make a proper group album. so much wasted potential.

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Wayne's verse on "Senile" (from the Rise of an Empire album) is really good, damn.

new Future album in April! yess.

Pluto is one of my fav rap albums of the decade.

https://soundcloud.com/cracktracks50...it-jay-z-x-jay

new freestyle by Jay Electronica & Jay-Z:

1.) FUCK, this is great.

2.) Act 2 is definitely coming out this year.

Lil Wayne Says He Wants A Legacy Like Snoop Dogg's Or Willie Nelson's In CRWN Interview
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/i...crwn-interview

"I would just say I would like to be remembered as a humble, good soul. A good spirit. A good soul," Lil Wayne said. "[A] thing like that. You know what I mean? Like a…a Willie Nelson. You know? Just remembered as everybody fuck with you. Like A Snoop Dogg. You know what I mean? Before I used to be shooting for more of a Biggie, Biggie/Pac/Jay type title. I used to shoot for that. But now I think my history already done that. You know what I mean? So, now I just—I wanna just be remembered as 'Man, that nigga was cool. He did great ass music and that's who he is. Period.'"

humble? Lulz. Great ass music yes. But humble?

hahaha. a bit too late for that, i'd say.

Hated the first few singles off the new one, but I've been bumping 'Move That Dope' so much that my girlfriend has threatened to move out if it doesn't stop.


P.S.
HI GUISE
I've Returned...

Um... the last thing he did that even comes close to great is Carter IV
His last few mixtapes have been tiresome, and let's all just pretend IANMHB II isn't a thing.

Carter IV is awesome.

IANAHMB2 would be great if it was half as long.

Dedication 5 is pretty good.

But yeah. Carter IV. Solid.

Dedication V was enjoyable if predictable. For that little inspiration I could have done with maybe half the length. There were just too many tracks where I felt like Wayne didn't even try to compete with/outdo the originals, which was what made the early Dedication tapes so remarkable.

^agreed. I found his take on "New Slaves" cringe-worthy for one. But, "You Song" was unbelievably inspired. I think Wayne has long been his own worst enemy, when what he really needs is an editor. Someone to say "just use these songs, ditch THESE songs"

Somehow, Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe bummed me out the most.
I felt like he could have totally skated on that beat but the whole thing felt obligatory.
I'm looking forward to Carter V, but ultimately I'm glad he has the sense to bow out now.

On an unrelated note, have you listened to My Krazy Life by YG yet?

nah, YG I'm not sold on... yet. Should I be?

I wasn't sold on YG either, but for some reason I felt compelled to check out his album... this turned out to be a good instinct.

Imagine if one of the less 'conscious' side characters in Good Kidd Maad City made an album, this would be it. Essentially, its "bad kidd maad city".

Nothing special lyrically, or even in the flow, but the album actually manages to carry a theme and a concept better than most and the production knocks all the way through: bay-area slaps and updated left coast gangsta vibes.
Added bonus: the deluxe has one of the best Weezy verses in a minute.

I copped both when they came out and can't stop alternating between the two. They both satisfy different aspects of my hip hop cravings perfectly, both classics in their own rite.

cool man thx for the heads up, might check that YG then. It's been a dry year for good hip hop so far.

^What about Clivia Demo, Oxymoron, and about half of Mastermind?

"Curtains", man!! i love Curtains.

exactly, and some of the beats are too similar sounding. it's still an enjoyable listen though.

Oxymoron is just pretty good to me. however, Clivia Demo is fantastic.

"now can we fall in love while Southernplayalistic banging through the night?" :)

i'm sure you'll dig Clivia Demo. Isaiah grew up on OutKast and Lil Wayne, and you can tell.

his music is really chill and even somewhat spacey, and he's a good lyricist.

he's really talented. of course TDE wouldn't have signed him if he wasn't.

my first impression of Oxymoron was that it should be a better album than it seems to be. :\

I do need to check that Isaiah still.

Oxymoron let me down on my first listen, but it grew to be a strong disc in my mind. The bonus tracks are all ass tho

new CunninLynguists album out for stream at http://cunninlynguists.bandcamp.com/

this Jay Elle Music mixtape featured on datpiff seems kind of alright. First track is a cover of Lana's "Radio," and it ends w/ a version of "Swimming Pools." Never heard of Jay Elle.

New Pixies album announced for April. Guess what? It's EP1, 2 and 3 combined. Shocker.

i fucking love 6 Foot 7 Foot. both Weezy and Cory Gunz killed it. i thought Cory Gunz had a future after this song haha, he should've capitalized on his hype and dropped a great single.

^right??
I used to know every single word to that song, it was more or less the party anthem of my freshman year of college.
As for Gunz... I think he just lacked any interesting artistic vision. Being on YM probably didn't help (they like to jam up a lot of their artists), but I really don't think he had enough interesting things to say to compete in the hip hop landscape that was forming around then.

"6 Foot 7" is better than "A Milli" IMO.

"mind so sharp I fuck around and cut my head off" kills it.

"Real G's move in silence like lasagna" kills me every damn time.