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ann ashtray 10.17.2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
For all we know they have been just friends and bandmates for years. No one can say with certainty what goes on between couples.


This. I've actually suspected this before.

EVOLghost 10.17.2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie
I hope that both of them can go on to be happier while also maintaining a goo friendship, and I really hope Coco is ok. Must be weird to have your parents split at that age.


Poor Lee and Steve too....


not really....my parents are currently separated and well it took them a while....uhh...i think it's easier the older you are.

E. Noisefield 10.17.2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sianspheric
shitty news

but I've got the be honest....I havent really loved a new SY album since Murray Street.

the last time SY was here I passed on seeing them because I knew the Eternal was just released, and while I liked The Eternal, I had no interest in seeing them play 90% of it and then zero songs from the Geffen era. And that's exactly what they did.


Hmm. I don't get it, but I'll acknowledge your right to say that.

Nurse and Ripped are 9/10 albums. And Eternal is a high seven.

Is the Geffen era really your favorite? Mine is the era immediately before it.

golden blue 10.17.2011 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
This. I've actually suspected this before.

ahmen

CHOUT 10.18.2011 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Decayed Rhapsody
I'm just looking forward to Lee's solo album.

I am looking forward to it...I haven't had much interest in T's new one...haven't heard a note of it yet...

EVOLghost 10.18.2011 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CHOUT
I haven't had much interest in T's new one...haven't heard a note of it yet...


you're not missing anything...

ann ashtray 10.18.2011 03:05 AM

I don't typically get into Thurston's material outside of SY much, but Demolished Thoughts is some of the best stuff he's done. Considerably better than Psychic Hearts and Trees. And of course most of his noisy stuff is just awful (sans some of his collaborative efforts. The Hurricane Floyd stuff is great. Love Pillow Wand and In Store with Nels C.).

I don't know. Was just a deeply personal album. I think that's pretty cool. Well written and unexpected. I recommend it.

forkimified 10.18.2011 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly

FUCK STEVE.


they couldn't do jackshit without C.HABIB. that guy.... THAT GUY!!!!!

NO CHABIB>>>NO SONIC YOUTH


Chris Habib - the REAL fifth Sonic?!

ann ashtray 10.18.2011 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by groar
so introspective, but my best homies are from Georgia and their way way cooler than metallica


which would make a vague press release now so timely, "hey Kim!" "wanna let the fans in on our secret."


What does Metallica have to do with anything? Last i checked, they were from your neck of the woods.

ann ashtray 10.18.2011 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by groar
yeah funny, thurston's lyrics are like some free style shit about nothing, it's an act, he's making it up, not his diary

kim's lyrics are some of the sickest ever of all time
"if I could give you anything, I would give you a kick!"

you can't top that, tight as fuck with music behind it

bitch bitchin about musicianship, this is rock n roll- fuck industry PRO types
you're in the wrong room, go fuck yourself down the hall, in that room where everything gets done like Jeff Koons brand of artifact.


Why do you keep bringing up all of this industry shit? And Kim's lyics (while I agree they are usually more straight forward than Thurston's) can get just as nonsensical. That's one thing I've always enjoyed about the Youth, though. I tend to (in most cases....) avoid lyrics. For me, personally, art has always been about taking me outside of everyday reality as opposed to aiding me in identifying with it.

Keeping It Simple 10.18.2011 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Did you write these?



Here are some of my rules about bands:

*never play a gig that asks you to sell a set number of tickets for it
*never expect the PA to be able to handle any direct in instrument, whether it be bass, drum machine, or synthesizer.
*never expect to be able to hear the important things through the monitors
*never let another band borrow your tube amp during a show you're playing
*bring a backup head & guitar, otherwise a tube will blow out on your main head & a string will break
*When singing, fucking sing. Don't scream, don't Bob Dylan, Lou Reed, or Ian Curtis it. You're not Bob Dylan, Lou Reed, or Ian Curtis & it just makes you sound tone deaf.
*Don't play in a band with anyone that thinks they're a virtuoso. And don't consider yourself one either. A drum solo, a bass solo, and a guitar solo all at once rarely sound good.


No.

sianspheric 10.18.2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by E. Noisefield
Hmm. I don't get it, but I'll acknowledge your right to say that.

Nurse and Ripped are 9/10 albums. And Eternal is a high seven.

Is the Geffen era really your favorite? Mine is the era immediately before it.


It's entirely your subjective opinion if you think Nurse and Ripped were great albums, I thought they were pretty forgettable. Forgettable in the sense that I've listened to A Thousand Leaves a hundred times and I've listened to RR and Nurse maybe a dozen.

Geffen era isn't necessary my favorite. I love Sister and Daydream and to a slightly lesser extent Evol. The Geffen time is way too broad to just define as an era, there were 9 albums in those years. My favorite SY era is 1990-1995.

But how the fuck can the band play live and basically opt out of playing ANYTHING from 1990-2009 is beyond me, and that's what they did on much of the Eternal tour.

That's why I personally passed on seeing them live the last time they were here, I've seen SY 5 times, but I know when they are touring behind a new album they usually play 90% of that album. And maybe 4-5 other songs, including usually something from the super early SY/Confusion days which I don't really care about.

If SY was touring and playing a broad selection througout their career, I would find them a far far more compelling touring act.

They do the occasional show with a good varied selection (ie. the August show in NYC) but they have not done a show with the same kind of variety in my city in the 14 years I've been a fan of the band.

!@#$%! 10.18.2011 10:51 AM

what the fuck?

this is fucked up.

and looks like most of the 15 pages of comments are fucked too.

well. fuck.

floatingslowly 10.18.2011 11:39 AM

^^^ first time visitor "up here"? it's creepy.

lulz

floatingslowly 10.18.2011 11:42 AM

I mean, don't get me wrong, I love to talk about sonic youth, their latest haircut, brand of toiletries and favorite cereal (it's cocopuffs) all day long, ceaselessly, but these people. THESE PEOPLE.

WOW.

_slavo_ 10.18.2011 12:03 PM

let's talk about your circuits instead, android.

floatingslowly 10.18.2011 12:13 PM

sure! what would you like to know?

let's start with the obvious: I like tacos

I'll be taking the rest of your questions periodically throughout the day!!

:)

Mako 10.18.2011 02:53 PM

Whatever happens I just wish all the joy and love to them both. If Sonic Youth are no more then thank you so much for rocking me. I love your music. Remember the eternity of the moment in life. Take care

SYHamilton 10.18.2011 03:20 PM

I wonder if Matador will put out a box set of unreleased material.

stu666 10.18.2011 03:23 PM

http://www.salon.com/2011/10/18/how_...moore_divorce/

EVOLghost 10.18.2011 03:32 PM

I think someone may have interpreted the press release wrong.

Genteel Death 10.18.2011 04:16 PM

Anyone going to kill themselves if they split up then?

Rob Instigator 10.18.2011 04:18 PM

Grab what you can. I got her pants
 

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 10.18.2011 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Grab what you can. I got her pants
 


I guess Steve Albini got to her panties before you could.

hirsute_biped 10.18.2011 05:55 PM

Having just watched the recent vid of Thurston and Rollins dishing about Rollins' new book (interesting in itself, check other thread), it is noteworthy to see that Thurston is acting like his usual jovial/inquisitive self, as we have come to know him through filmed inverviews at least. This leads me to believe that the recent anouncement about changes in relationship status is not due to a sudden catastrophic event, but has been a long time coming, he has adjusted already, and we are just now hearing about it. Dude did not seem devestated, in accute emotional pain, etc... not that it's any of our business.

We just got spoiled having SY rock our faces off to the greatest extent that is possible for thirty freaking years, and we don't want it to stop.

The Soup Nazi 10.18.2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro
I would like to go to those shows too. Pricey yes, but might be worth it.



Quote:

Originally Posted by toxic johnny
I am now seriously thinking about going to one of the South American shows...



Quote:

Originally Posted by forgetmeknots
I'm going. Bought tix + airplane tix today (November 14th - it's in my country, though, but another state). Rationally, I could not have spent that money, but I would not forgive myself if I missed it.


I hope you fine cats have a great time... Me, I could attend the November 13th gig but I predict a double-awful context: first, it's one of those wretched dismal festivals with pathetic lineups and I guarantee you SY will not dig playing among such shit acts. Second, and worse, Kim and T will perform to a sea of goddamn mooks who'll spend an ungodly amount of time yelling at them not to get divorced. I wish I could go, abstract myself from the surrounding pestilence and just enjoy the show, but I'm afraid there are not enough drugs in the world to achieve such a lofty goal.

RanaldoNecro 10.18.2011 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Anyone going to kill themselves if they split up then?


only hopefully you

E. Noisefield 10.18.2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sianspheric
It's entirely your subjective opinion if you think Nurse and Ripped were great albums, I thought they were pretty forgettable. Forgettable in the sense that I've listened to A Thousand Leaves a hundred times and I've listened to RR and Nurse maybe a dozen.

Geffen era isn't necessary my favorite. I love Sister and Daydream and to a slightly lesser extent Evol. The Geffen time is way too broad to just define as an era, there were 9 albums in those years. My favorite SY era is 1990-1995.

But how the fuck can the band play live and basically opt out of playing ANYTHING from 1990-2009 is beyond me, and that's what they did on much of the Eternal tour.

That's why I personally passed on seeing them live the last time they were here, I've seen SY 5 times, but I know when they are touring behind a new album they usually play 90% of that album. And maybe 4-5 other songs, including usually something from the super early SY/Confusion days which I don't really care about.

If SY was touring and playing a broad selection througout their career, I would find them a far far more compelling touring act.

They do the occasional show with a good varied selection (ie. the August show in NYC) but they have not done a show with the same kind of variety in my city in the 14 years I've been a fan of the band.



Yeah, they do tend to push the newest release when they're touring.

If my count is right, I've seen them 8 times. Only a few were not like this.

The Eternal tour was especially bad, mostly because the eternal material was so low in comparison to what they overlooked.

Aaaadrpk 10.19.2011 01:31 PM

I never come in here, but now I have my message...

I don't care about your personal lives just dont break up the band! Sure that the slip is sad but nobody can insert in your personal lives.

It's so sad talk about and listen Sonic Youth with ''the end'' possibility hovering around...I think most people confuse the word and meaning ''divorce'' with ''end of the band'' but still make me afraid with this bad possibility.

That's what the magazines talks and bullshit rumors that make me feel sick!! ridiculous speculations!!

HEY SONIC YOUTH PLEASE SAY SOMETHING FOR YOUR LOVERS AND TRUE FANS IS IT NOT TRUE? IS IT? NO!! PLEASE!

Say something before I and most people that loves you have a heart attack.

Não terminem a banda, por favor. Isso é muito triste, muito mesmo.

for real..
I.LOVE.YOU'TH.SONIC.GOLDEN.BLUE.

__________________________________________________ _________
and for the people that laught on this message. simple. >>> :fuckyou:

forkimified 10.19.2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
For all we know they have been just friends and bandmates for years. No one can say with certainty what goes on between couples.


True.

MellySingsDoom 10.19.2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaaadrpk
I never come in here, but now I have my message...

I don't care about your personal lives just dont break up the band! Sure that the slip is sad but nobody can insert in your personal lives.

It's so sad talk about and listen Sonic Youth with ''the end'' possibility hovering around...I think most people confuse the word and meaning ''divorce'' with ''end of the band'' but still make me afraid with this bad possibility.

That's what the magazines talks and bullshit rumors that make me feel sick!! ridiculous speculations!!

HEY SONIC YOUTH PLEASE SAY SOMETHING FOR YOUR LOVERS AND TRUE FANS IS IT NOT TRUE? IS IT? NO!! PLEASE!

Say something before I and most people that loves you have a heart attack.

Não terminem a banda, por favor. Isso é muito triste, muito mesmo.

for real..
I.LOVE.YOU'TH.SONIC.GOLDEN.BLUE.

__________________________________________________ _________
and for the people that laught on this message. simple. >>> :fuckyou:


For fuck's sake, get a grip, get off the internet and go out for a walk or something.

Derek 10.19.2011 03:07 PM

pLZ DONT BREAK UP A BAND WHO'S PEAK WAS IN THE 80s!!! NOOO!!!!!

EVOLghost 10.19.2011 04:01 PM

^ Thinking they peaked in the 80's is hilarious...

They've peaked every decade with multiple mind blowing albums!

E. Noisefield 10.19.2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost
^ Thinking they peaked in the 80's is hilarious...

They've peaked every decade with multiple mind blowing albums!


Quoted for truth.

They were the best band of three consecutive decades.

the ikara cult 10.19.2011 05:01 PM

Theyve had 5 Sonic Peaks (depending on where you count your "eras", most of these come at the "End" of what i consider one particular era of the band)

Sonic Peak 1 - Bad Moon Rising. A high concept low culture Stooges tribute album

Sonic Peak 2 - Daydream Nation. It was annoying finding out what Teenage Riot was about, but somehow the subject matter made it more entertaining the more i thought about it

Sonic Peak 3 - Goo. Several trendy bastards wore the Tshirt. I didnt but i owned the mug, the poster and the fucking CD too. Cunts

Sonic Peak 4 - A Thousand Leaves. Like it was written in rehab, and asylum, a maternity ward, and an abandoned town in the middle of winter. Hoarfrost is the most beautiful song they have ever done, and one of the most beautiful ever done by anyone

Sonic Peak 5 - Murray Street/Sonic Nurse. Your city gets attacked, your country goes haywire, you are the elder statesmen of indie who saw yourselves through the Reagan years and commercial success unscathed. how do you respond? You make everyone think Murray Street is accessible (only if they never listen beyond song 1 and 2) then you do Nurse, with I love You Golden Blue, which is the second most beautiful song youve ever done.

Some nice peaks there

Derek 10.19.2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost
^ Thinking they peaked in the 80's is hilarious...

They've peaked every decade with multiple mind blowing albums!

let's get real here. 'evol', 'sister' and 'daydream nation' are all perfect and forward thinking. their other material, while great, wasn't.

Jeremy 10.19.2011 06:05 PM

True, but they still released quality records after that, so them breaking up is like losing a trusted friend. Yeah SY do a lot of things that annoy me on their albums, but at least they still had their moments and aside from a few records I can't stand from them, they were always an enjoyable listen. Doesn't matter if they'll ever "peak" again, I think, since people aren't listening to them thinking they'll top Sister or DDN or anything like that. They listen for the band releasing new music in general.

~Jeremy~

Genteel Death 10.19.2011 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro
only hopefully you


 

EVOLghost 10.19.2011 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
let's get real here. 'evol', 'sister' and 'daydream nation' are all perfect and forward thinking. their other material, while great, wasn't.


Quote:

Originally Posted by the ikara cult
Theyve had 5 Sonic Peaks (depending on where you count your "eras", most of these come at the "End" of what i consider one particular era of the band)

Sonic Peak 1 - Bad Moon Rising. A high concept low culture Stooges tribute album

Sonic Peak 2 - Daydream Nation. It was annoying finding out what Teenage Riot was about, but somehow the subject matter made it more entertaining the more i thought about it

Sonic Peak 3 - Goo. Several trendy bastards wore the Tshirt. I didnt but i owned the mug, the poster and the fucking CD too. Cunts

Sonic Peak 4 - A Thousand Leaves. Like it was written in rehab, and asylum, a maternity ward, and an abandoned town in the middle of winter. Hoarfrost is the most beautiful song they have ever done, and one of the most beautiful ever done by anyone

Sonic Peak 5 - Murray Street/Sonic Nurse. Your city gets attacked, your country goes haywire, you are the elder statesmen of indie who saw yourselves through the Reagan years and commercial success unscathed. how do you respond? You make everyone think Murray Street is accessible (only if they never listen beyond song 1 and 2) then you do Nurse, with I love You Golden Blue, which is the second most beautiful song youve ever done.

Some nice peaks there


except replace BMR with EVOL.

the ikara cult 10.19.2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost
except replace BMR with EVOL.


Yeah, i just feel BMR encapsulates the early period best, whereas EVOL is the start of the sound that led them to Daydream Nation. I love Evol, first SY album i really loved actually, i just dont see it as being a "peak" in terms of how it fits in to their body of work


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