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It was... it was...


Long and slow, definitely.

Oh, also extremely disappointing.

I’d Have taken “Don’t Stop” and a blackout.

not sure if any was for me but i can’t see you right now sev — i’ll unblock you as soon as i finish il papa giovane

same as episodes 1 and 2 this season. a lotta yappin’

anyway all good. it’s done.

you know what’s really really good though and keeps blowing my mind?

the young pope.

ah damn damn damn. i just finished it.

that’s something else completely. such fucking amazing writing. literary. truly. not the schlocky stuff but the good stuff. damn... damn damn damn..,

Oh HEY HEY!

Yes I agree about The Young Pope, and I was JUST bitching about how we’re still waiting for the sequel series — the New Pope — and did you see? There was a brief teaser for it before GoT finale!!

All I saw was John Malkovic, which I found mildly disappointing. Hopefully they continue with the thread of Lenny’s papacy.

so yeah midway through the show i was expecting the guy to be offed at the end (the possibility was often dangled) and the mention of “sequel” sure killed that tension lmao.

checked last night on imdb, the sequel is in post, so, likely this year.

what’s the problem with malkovich? he’s fucking great. sure he’s always malkovich malkovich malkovich (haha, like the puppet film) but so?

i trust sorrentino not to fuck it up.

so i was running the leftovers all day while i did stuff because i was curious about the hype.

wasn’t a “keep your eyes on the tv” kind of show, it was more like a soap opera type thing with some suspense/mystery/horror mixed in. it did keep me curious enough to let it roll.

but here’s the thing, i had to leave for a minute the room where the tv was is for a minute, i didn’t pause it, and when i walk back in there’s an old woman tied to a tree and someone is throwing fucking stones at her and another stone bashes her head and another stone bashes her head...

that’s when i turned it off for good. nope, don’t need an explanation of the why and wherefore and bla bla bla. nope. i am done.

feel free to dish out the spoilers because that will save me the trouble of the torture porn.

i’m sticking to veep for the final stretch of my hbo days.

Oh don't worry about that. Lindelof is not really into explaining red herrings in his writing, anyways.

Sorry, Sev. I have tried to not talk shit on your love for this show, but that was too much of a softball not to swing. :)

I guess consider this my "I don't get it, but happy for ya" in the opposite direction, ha. /respect

I am just not a Lindelof fan, and I will leave it at that. Between Tony Hawk and GOT, I feel I haev been getting a bit too cynical on this board anyways...

i dont know this lindelof guy but i did like a couple tom perrotta’s movies. little children and... election, hahahaha. hilarious, both.

but this shit is more like walking dead but with less action. soap opera and suffering.

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eta: oh shit i just saw lindelof’s writing credits on imdb.

[puke emoji]

that... explains a lot hahahaha

Wow.

The last season of Veep is 20 times more depressing than the one scene you’re talking about.

You later find out that the woman signed up for exactly that. Murder by stoning. It’s a part of the Guilty Remnant’s whole creepy deal. They kill their own members.


I know it’s a rough season but JESUS H CHRIST are you missing out on some fantastic television.

It never gets that brutal again, and that incident — though definitely depressing — does move the story along and is an essential part of it.

You are missing the F out friend.
Not just on a great show, but on excellent pop culture references, bonkers world-building and some tremendous performances and truly emotionally powerful shit.

It’s goddamn glorious.

I’m a little mad at you for bailing.

What the fuck?

It’s not a red herring.

Or... well... maybe narratively, sure. But it’s essential to the story.

The goddamn show is goddamn great any fuck you all for sitting through EIGHT SEASONS of GoT and not making it through three episodes of The Leftovers, which is exponentially better by every fucking metric imaginable.

Middle fingers everywhere.
Just... really disappointed in the lot of you.

i get that you like it sev but i dont like lost and i dont like star trek reboots i dont like chasing jordan and i have zero interest in hulk vs wolverine, etc.

tldr; not my kind of writer. but justin theroux is good in it

anyway veep is fucking hilarious. yes it has a cynical edge but the absurdity is greater

jonah ryan in new hampshire lmfao

meds time amigo :D

Ha, I get it. I truly do. I have had this convo with a few other friends that do enjoy the show. They do say it's worth sticking out. Only a few though. :)

And I am not talking that scene specifically when discussing his red herring writing style, just more of a generalized statement. I think he has been able to build a career out of this hack "keep them engaged" style, which I feel we are seeing more and more of lately. In fact, that is one of my main issues with where GOT ended. I really hate being strung along by "mysterious" elements only to have no resolution or payoff. It's cheap, bad writing, imo. Plain and simple. (Ugh, I went cynical again, and was going to leave it where it was, but I figured that much of an explanation was warranted.)

Now, does that hold true for all of Leftovers? To be fair, I don't know, honestly. But that was my experience with the show. I watched the first season while it was being aired, week to week. I'll admit, I was engaged and intrigued as to why so much odd shit was happening. The story seemed to be building interestingly. Going into the season finale though, I literally said to myself, "If this mother-fucker answers 'why' to even TWO things he has thrown at me throughout the season, I might continue on." But he didn't. He truly did not. Just more cliffhanger red herring bullshit, so I wrote it off. I hate sitting on the edge of my seat only to have it pulled out from beneath me.

Now that I can binge it, and based off some peoples' passion for it, I may go back and give the other two season's their fair share. Being that it is adapted from decently regarded source material does make me think it might resolve more than I expect. It will be hard for me to approach it again with an open mind though.

The show did introduce me to Wolf Alice, whom I genuinely do enjoy. (flame on...)

I’ll say this: the GREAT WHY of the show is never truly “answered” (Rapture? Energy disturbance or some shit? Etc.) but a lot of the mysteries surrounding that question are answered.

It is.... oh my god... so satisfying

And heartbreaking


When you get to the last episode (and there are only 3 seasons, so it’s not hard to get there)


WATCH IT GODDAMN YOUR EYEZ

Hulk vs. Wolverine?


Anyway, you’re missing out. Like, for real.

If I could somehow force people to watch only THREE dramas from the past several years, The Leftovers would be my first and most important pick.

boring people in a boring town dealing with issues in their usual boring way

boring

:D

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seriously the only “interesting” thing is that people vanished with no explanation. the rest is just a bunch of american-style relijun which is the dumbest kind there is. ordinary dolts, disaffected teenagers, relationship soap operas, just... no man. no. sorry. shit’s weak. nothing original except an evangelically inspired premise with an xfiles twist. zzzzzzz

teresa may making vain appeals to a half-empty house of commons (why is it half empty? i don’t know the rules here)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3PHce9aj1j0

IM FUCKING NOT

i have better things to do with my life than to watch this useless uninspiring predictable shit

goddammit

because nobody gives a fuck about the brexit anymore?


or was everyone on tea break and forgot to inform her?

lmao

there was a big hoopla about her speech last night. “bold new deal” or some such shit. the pound rose

then it got savaged by everyone and the pound got whipsawed lmao

it’s almost at “veep” comedy level

i have it on cuz i like to see for myself. tons of kabuki.

And in all fairness, your passion for this show as of late has surpassed your excitement for many things discussed. That alone makes me think I should give it another shot and see how the next two seasons play out.

I am thinking I might start it up again soon.

he’s also passionate about batman as the best movie of the century so ymmv

i often appreciate sev’s recommendations but sometimes he gets a bit rapey with the push

no means no dammit :D :D :D

and only YES means yes

(so, it’s no for me)

You don’t get to make broad statements about the show after half-watching 3 episodes and bailing.

If you’d seen the rest, you’d know how utterly dumb as fuck this sounds, but you’ve already said you’ll never watch the rest so...

Guess dumb as fuck is your play on this one.

Sad for you. Genuinely sad for you.

You’re a pussy, and I’ve lost a ton of respect for you.

The Leftovers is smarter and better than the Nolan Batman trilogy, which is great but not like this.

And don’t act like it’s my support of the show that turned you off.

You’ve already said you barely watched 3 episodes and called it off when you walked in on a scene that disturbed you.


Here I thought you gave a shit about quality film, and turns out you don’t have the attention span to even watch ONE episode without interruption.

Sad days, these. Sad days.

Thank you!

(Also note that half the time when I talk about Batman it’s because Slambang has goaded me into it — see above. This is totally different, and it would be a serious shame if nobody watched this show, which is so. much. more. than Symbols’ shallow read after napping through a couple hours before throwing in the towel because of violence no worse, and significantly less offensive, than most of the shit he loves)


Anyway, you get rep points THE MOMENT I’m able to give them to you again.

The WORLD slept on this show. I slept on this show. It was stupid of me, and I wish I could watch it again for the first time.

Oh my! Well, boo-hoo!


Like folding clothes with “boring unpredictable shit” on in the background that you judge without watching? Haha. Ok, dude. Very important man, got it. Lol.


Again, your position is invalid because you didn’t watch, then bailed.


OH HEY! Remember when you ate my asshole in a mean way for Amadeus? Well, consider this my version of that.
At least I ***watched*** Amadeus before I called it cartoonish, melodramatic crap.

Moral: Only Symbols gets to have fits when people don’t like things.

Seems fair.

Jesus damn, y'all are adults. Can you go fight about TV somewhere else?

EDIT: Admittedly, if you're going to fight about TV, this is the place. But still, c'mon guys.

christ man.

not sure what you’re going on about really but it can’t be my choice of tv in my own home in my own time, can it? can it?

feel free to pm if you wanna tell me wtf is going on with the emotions but face value i can’t reply seriously at the hysteria.

i think your “intelligent” show sucks. the stoning was just the last straw.

i have all the attention span for something good. won’t participate in a staring-at-a-turd endurance contest. life is short.

and btw im totally uninterested in “lost” as well. yes yes it had high ratings. big yawn. please don’t get a... what’s that old timey word. “conniption”, or something, lmao.

that writer does not write for me. i am not his audience.

but seriously, if you’re having real problems that are driving you to the edge, feel free to pm, i wont fuck you.

i think it’s dumber to finish a shit sandwich only because you took a bite of it

seriously.

entertainment should not be homework.

i’ll watch it if you pay me though :D

$100/hr good?

i accept bitcoin

"You can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

Another endorsement for The Leftovers

Of course it's symbols decision whether he wants to watch it or not, but giving up after glancing at 3 episodes (and a very unrepresentative scene) is a shame. I wasn't sure myself to begin with but by the end of S1 I was sold. I had problems with bits of it (inevitable in a show like this) but they weren't problems in terms of quality, more like questions and disagreements. (And not enough air-time for Jill) I don't watch a lot of TV but I'd say it's the best I've seen probably since that 1st season of True Detective.

thanks.

it was 4. i watched 4 full episodes. the stoning happens at the start of 5.

the first episode i looked at carefully and said no. the other 3 were 2nd chance to hook me.the scene was not the reason, it was only the last straw. why suffer?

currently im in no mood for the ongoing depressive state of a whole planet just watching people suffer suffer suffer suffer suffer. cops, violence, suffering. dogs shot, deers eaten. teenage sport fucking. then more suffering and reading little notes and all those pain faces. “heroes”. smoking for faith. the mystical roulette pigeons and the 3 days late dr who. all suffering. everyone fucking sad and angry. the annoying mayor. false memory tropes. stolen baby jesus. mystical cults and prophets. police brutality, paranoia and persecution. magical babies? many flashbacks. real? divorce papers. “don’t forget me” lighters. the organized theft of family photos. it made me tired...

watching true detective season 3 was hard enough, but at least carmen ejogo was in it, lol.

so, maybe i’ll have a new look at this thing around halloween season or something, since hbo is extra $. i know you watch horror all the time but i must have it in limited doses.

plus right now i already have a soap opera of suffering, and it’s called teresa’s troubles, haa haaa haaaaa.

looking for a title for the upcoming boris series. not sure if it will be tragedy or farce...

A parliamentary stoning if ever there was one.

yeah.looks like she’s withdrawing the wab. but herself, not yet.

see, this is why i like to watch those things live—i had a better take after the speech than the headlines provided, ha haaa haaa.

Thank you for watching and giving the show and honest chance.

Glad you like it!

And yeah, it’s Symbols’ choice, but it’s certainly a shame.

lmao

A SHAME

i so wish you were just trolling with the excess displays, cuz it would be hilarious

Hey, if you’re not in the mood for a bleak show, I get that.

I’ll take “maybe I’ll revisit around Halloween” as a win, and thank you for the reconsideration.

I mean, the show is depressing. I dunno about false memory tropes... but it’s a goddamn dark beast... truly.

I paced myself and spent about 3 weeks on it because it was just too goddamn heavy to binge all at once, but by S1E4, you’ve only scratched the surface of what the show is about. By the end — heck, by the next season — it’s something entirely different.

But yeah, revisit around Halloween. Or some time when you’re more of a mind for bleak things and not, y’know, sunny, cheerful shows like GoT, where nobody gets hurt and stuff works out. :D

that’s part of it but not everything


im not doing you a favor you lunatic haaa haaahaaa. i am not doing it for you or for anyone.

i might not care for it on halloween either

you realize you being so invested in someone doing what you want is a leeeeeeeetle crazy yes?

im speaking as a friend here. you need to chill it with these fantasies. you do this shit in real life?


is the man in the truck real? or is he an alter ego? o wait he’s real and just left the truck there. did the cop go nuts? or was it his dad. oh it was his dad! did this happen? did i dream it? did he hallucinate it? is this a flashback? is this a dream? is this a kind of thing everyone writes for tv these days?

i get that you like it, but you need to understand that not everyone has to like it and the world will not end if this happens. yes?


i understand that the show is a puzzle the viewer is meant to put together. and it might never be put together. it’s how “lost” hooked millions. everyone wondering what it all means. and i understand you loved “lost.”

...“lost” had zero appeal for me. ZERO. could not fucking stand it. it hurt my eyes.


it’s not about shit “working out”, it’s that beyond the bleakness i didn’t like the whole aesthetic and method of it. i didn’t like the characters and i didn’t like how they reacted to stuff and i didn’t find the situations really interesting. it was more like “everyday schlocky”. it’s like being around a bunch of people i can’t stand watching them fo stuff ive seen on many other tv shows. like getting trapped in the supermarket for the rest of my life.

demonyo made a sane suggestion and i gave him the courtesy of a consideration. i know that he understands different people have different tastes, and if i don’t like it again in the end he’s not gonna melt down and jump off a bridge. :D

seriously i think you have a problem with this, hahahaha. it’s funny... but it’s also not.