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Severian 08.14.2017 05:51 PM

Tesla, you strike me as normal enough when talking about music, but in this thread you're a sub-troll. You troll shit. You have to know you've been written off long ago by everyone here. That can't be lost on you. I clicked that link because I figured, why not? It's been a while. Now I'm gonna go back to pretending your posts don't exist.

tesla69 08.14.2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Tesla, you strike me as normal enough when talking about music, but in this thread you're a sub-troll. You troll shit. You have to know you've been written off long ago by everyone here. That can't be lost on you. I clicked that link because I figured, why not? It's been a while. Now I'm gonna go back to pretending your posts don't exist.


Sevvie, you're a sad troll yourself, a dupe of the elites. You seem to be under the assumption that the democrats are opposition. But you've never once offered any information that disproves anything these links say - I really would like you to disprove them, but instead you choose to exhibit some kid of raging freakishness and obsession to reply to anything I post with insults and pathetic screaming. It appears to me I TOUCH A NERVE!

You have teamed up with your little bully cabal the nazi and the nameless one to try and enforce that this is your board and no one else is allowed. Your little bully cabal is also very good at putting words into people mouths that they didn't say. This is a classic COINTELPRO disinformation tactic. How much are they paying you to be traitor?

I will continue to think for myself. You may get back to CNN now to get your instructions.

Maybe instead of calling me names you should look in the mirror at your own intellectual rigor. I find it lacking.

tesla69 08.14.2017 09:59 PM

Right now thousands of people are standing around at 5th Ave and 58th street here in NYC crying and yelling about evil Trump. Meanwhile, Governor Cuomo, held up as the Sacred Moral Opposition, is putting another tracking and surveillance system into place in Manhattan, this will the first place in the world where pedestrians get tolls for walking down the street. Cuomo wants to tax us so he can spend 200 MILLION DOLLARS on pretty lights on a bridge.
Over 8 years, Obama presided over the greatest covert surveillance system in history being put into place, and you snowflakes were nowhere to be seen except hunched over your cell phones.

You're really useful idiots, as the saying goes.

tesla69 08.14.2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Tesla, you strike me as normal enough when talking about music, but in this thread you're a sub-troll. You troll shit. You have to know you've been written off long ago by everyone here. .


You try and smear me by calling me a troll, but what have you actually contributed to this board? Have you ever posted a live date? informed us about a new release (not put out by a corporation)? reviewed a sonic related show? I can't recall ever seeing anything, other than smears and talk about corporate bands.

And as for your other personal attack that no one likes me, really, other than you and the nazi and nameless one (who also never contribute to the board in anyway other than to parade their own superiority) no one seems to be bothered. If you don't want to get upset by ideas your brain didn't generate on its own, you probably should go play in a different sandbox.

!@#$%! 08.15.2017 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
How much are they paying you to be traitor?


a lot of money!

COINTELPRO has allocated resources to neutralize paranoia agent tsl-69, a proven threat to the NWO

systems: engaged

my cousin's friend made $76,553 last month working for yahoo at home

Severian 08.15.2017 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
a lot of money!

COINTELPRO has allocated resources to neutralize paranoia agent tsl-69, a proven threat to the NWO

systems: engaged

my cousin's friend made $76,553 last month working for yahoo at home


Dude. Good for your cousin's friend.

!@#$%! 08.15.2017 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Dude. Good for your cousin's friend.


:rolleyes:

evollove 08.15.2017 09:58 AM

My check from Soros took a few days longer to arrive than normal. Anyone else have an issue?

!@#$%! 08.15.2017 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove
My check from Soros took a few days longer to arrive than normal. Anyone else have an issue?

soros just sends me digits in a timely fashion. it's just digits.

i invested in korean stocks when they took the plunge, and when they return to normal i'm going to buy myself a driverless car.

like all pod people, my goal is to watch pornography in the car while the matrix drinks my brains to feed our alien reptilian overlords.

it's a complicated system vs them just cracking our skulls open, but i'm not in charge of the system. the bankers cabal is. i merely obey.

cabal.

kabbalah.

see? see? fascinating!

ilduclo 08.15.2017 12:28 PM

cable internet &tv
undersea cable
Iraqi cabby
Cabinet of Dr Caligari

!@#$%! 08.15.2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
cable internet &tv
undersea cable
Iraqi cabby
Cabinet of Dr Caligari

crooked walls (tumbling down?)
osama's messenger
international/global
ccmmunications/media

i see! i see!

fascinating...

evollove 08.15.2017 07:03 PM

Nazinazinazi...

What about the infrastructure bill? This country needs one. Trump is a great man for introducing it. You all are a bunch of haters. You're the Nazi.

tesla69 08.15.2017 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
What about the infrastructure bill? This country needs one. Trump is a great man for introducing it. You all are a bunch of haters. You're the Nazi.


Well our Lord Cuomo - who will probably be president in 2020 - is rebuilding LaGuardia Airport. He wants the tourists to be happy and have a mall-like experience. He won't extend the subway to the airport, however. He is going to start taxing people for moving through the streets of Manhattan so he can spend $200 million on pretty lights on a bridge so the tourists will be happy - he's stated this publicly. He can't seem to find any money for the subways other than increasing our taxes. But he can come up with $500 million to put in cashless tolls on the NY Thruway and get that fucking surveillance grid in place now!

Severian 08.15.2017 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
:rolleyes:


Hah!

!@#$%! 08.15.2017 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
Well our Lord Cuomo - who will probably be president in 2020 - is rebuilding LaGuardia Airport. He wants the tourists to be happy and have a mall-like experience. He won't extend the subway to the airport, however. He is going to start taxing people for moving through the streets of Manhattan so he can spend $200 million on pretty lights on a bridge so the tourists will be happy - he's stated this publicly. He can't seem to find any money for the subways other than increasing our taxes. But he can come up with $500 million to put in cashless tolls on the NY Thruway and get that fucking surveillance grid in place now!

who needs surveillance when you post your every last brainworm on the internets? it's there for all to see!

if you're trying to hide in plain sight-- it's not working

yahoo knows where you are

evollove 08.16.2017 12:24 PM

Know what sucks?

This administration could get even worse.

!@#$%! 08.16.2017 12:55 PM

it will get worse before it gets better. he'll get booted out of power in the midterms. sooner might be problematic if pence gets enshrined cuz he's not as incompetent.

now the manufacturing council fled en masse and trumpo is claiming "he disolved it"

haaaaa haaaa haaaaa

but wait. "the corporations". elites. hillary. fascinating!

evollove 08.16.2017 01:41 PM

What's really really funny and seems to be completely overlooked is that yesterday was supposed to be about infrastructure.

Mitch McConnell doesn't want an infrastructure bill, and I'm pretty sure even before yesterday Don wouldn't have been able to sweet talk him into it. But maybe.

So he goes ahead introduces something that has very little chance of materializing in the first place (but is a popular idea in theory), then completely pisses away all his remaining political capital in a handful of minutes.

No shit he's not a "real" politician.

But neither is my cat, and he could've finessed the situation a bit better.

The Soup Nazi 08.16.2017 02:12 PM

 


FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR ->
FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT...

The Soup Nazi 08.16.2017 02:19 PM

Courtesy of Roger Waters:

 

!@#$%! 08.16.2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
 


FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR ->
FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> FEAR -> HATE -> MOB -> WAR -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT -> CHANT...

ah, the irony of tiki torches to proclaim "white supremacy" bhaaa haa haaa haaa

The Soup Nazi 08.16.2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
ah, the irony of tiki torches to proclaim "white supremacy" bhaaa haa haaa haaa


NOT to be confused with tiki-taka! :D

Rob Instigator 08.16.2017 03:30 PM

I always hated tiki bull shit and now I have a societally acceptable reason for it.

ilduclo 08.16.2017 06:01 PM

Johnny says:


 





A message from the children of Johnny Cash:

We were alerted to a video of a young man in Charlottesville, a self-proclaimed neo-Nazi, spewing hatred and bile. He was wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with the name of Johnny Cash, our father. We were sickened by the association.

Johnny Cash was a man whose heart beat with the rhythm of love and social justice. He received humanitarian awards from, among others, the Jewish National Fund, B’nai Brith, and the United Nations. He championed the rights of Native Americans, protested the war in Vietnam, was a voice for the poor, the struggling and the disenfranchised, and an advocate for the rights of prisoners. Along with our sister Rosanne, he was on the advisory board of an organization solely devoted to preventing gun violence among children. His pacifism and inclusive patriotism were two of his most defining characteristics. He would be horrified at even a casual use of his name or image for an idea or a cause founded in persecution and hatred. The white supremacists and neo-Nazis who marched in Charlottesville are poison in our society, and an insult to every American hero who wore a uniform to fight the Nazis in WWII. Several men in the extended Cash family were among those who served with honor.
Our dad told each of us, over and over throughout our lives, ‘Children, you can choose love or hate. I choose love.’

We do not judge race, color, sexual orientation or creed. We value the capacity for love and the impulse towards kindness. We respect diversity, and cherish our shared humanity. We recognize the suffering of other human beings, and remain committed to our natural instinct for compassion and service.

To any who claim supremacy over other human beings, to any who believe in racial or religious hierarchy: we are not you. Our father, as a person, icon, or symbol, is not you. We ask that the Cash name be kept far away from destructive and hateful ideology.

We Choose Love.

Rosanne Cash
Kathy Cash
Cindy Cash
Tara Cash
John Carter Cash

August 16, 2017

‘Not one of us can rest, be happy, be at home, be at peace with ourselves, until we end hatred and division.’ Rep. John Lewis

The Soup Nazi 08.16.2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
Several men in the extended Cash family were among those who served with honor.


Certainly. From 1951 to 1954, Johnny was in the Air Force, where he reached the rank of staff sergeant — a fact not lost on Bill Callahan's "America":

Captain Kristofferson
Buck Sergeant Newbury
Leatherneck Jones
Sergeant Cash...

Rob Instigator 08.17.2017 10:25 AM

so Trump's son in law is Jewish, his daughter converted to Judaism for marriage. Has there been any mention of this in relation to the dipshits holding "white power" rallies?

!@#$%! 08.17.2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
so Trump's son in law is Jewish, his daughter converted to Judaism for marriage. Has there been any mention of this in relation to the dipshits holding "white power" rallies?

her rabbi even made a public statement

on the corporate media anyway

fascinating!

hillary

obama

hillary

kenya

rabbi

Severian 08.17.2017 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
so Trump's son in law is Jewish, his daughter converted to Judaism for marriage. Has there been any mention of this in relation to the dipshits holding "white power" rallies?


Uhh... yes. Christopher Cantwell said, he'd continue to do the white nationalist work until someone came along who would fight for it. Someone "like Trump, only who doesn't let his daughter marry a fucking Jew."

"So like Donald Trump only more racist?" asks Vice news lady.

"Way more racist," -- Cantwell.

Yes it's been brought up. There's a powerful video containing this very conversation in circulation by Vice news. I'll try to find a link.

Severian 08.17.2017 11:03 AM

Here... for said quote, and for 22 minutes of absolute real-world fucking horror, watch this video:

VICE | Charlottesville: Race and terror

Rob Instigator 08.17.2017 11:24 AM

ignorance is so scary

Severian 08.17.2017 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
ignorance is so scary


It's quite a bit more than ignorance, don't you think? It's like ... a genetic mutation has halted the cognitive development of white people of Northern European descent. It's like mass, violent retardation.

But no matter what, no matter how ignorant or mass retarded these people are, when whte supremacist after white supremacist looks into the camera and says "we'll be back" and "a lot more people are going to die before this is over" it's fucking terrifying. It's FUCKING. TERRIFYING. I don't even know what else to say.

!@#$%! 08.17.2017 11:54 AM

you see terrifying, i see a bunch of pansies pretending to act tough

--

it's supersad to see the victims of that chickenshit maniac though

Bertrand 08.17.2017 04:11 PM

Wow... thanks for the link...

Severian 08.17.2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you see terrifying, i see a bunch of pansies pretending to act tough

--

it's supersad to see the victims of that chickenshit maniac though


They're promising more. I have friends -- me, little snowflake me, *I* have "friends" -- in my FB circles who are defending this. Or just refusing to denounce it and claiming BLM is the "same," and that the Charlottesville protestors were "just as bad" as the Unite the Right folks who are promising more death, violence, murder. "Just as bad." People THAT close to me are that close to embracing overt literal Nazism.

Don't write this shit off.

Severian 08.17.2017 07:10 PM

21st century Americans vocally supporting ethnic cleansing. Unbelievable.

!@#$%! 08.17.2017 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
21st century Americans vocally supporting ethnic cleansing. Unbelievable.

america was built on ethnic cleansing. so... believable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
They're promising more. I have friends -- me, little snowflake me, *I* have "friends" -- in my FB circles who are defending this. Or just refusing to denounce it and claiming BLM is the "same," and that the Charlottesville protestors were "just as bad" as the Unite the Right folks who are promising more death, violence, murder. "Just as bad." People THAT close to me are that close to embracing overt literal Nazism.

Don't write this shit off.


i was just writing off those pathetic persons as persons, but you're right, one can get enough pathetic cowards to constitute a dangerous mob.

!@#$%! 08.17.2017 09:06 PM

see what i was saying about pathetic?

http://gizmodo.com/before-getting-ba...t-c-1797949753

evollove 08.18.2017 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
the Charlottesville protestors were "just as bad" as the Unite the Right folks .


This idea is gaining traction.

It needs to be combated wherever it's found.

BLM does not have a heritage of hanging people from trees. Or even burning crosses on a family's lawn.

You have a duty to mention this to any cretin who doesn't get it.

When you come across the "just the same" idea, don't be a dick about it, but explain how BLM and even Antifa cannot possibly be compared to decades of murder and oppression.

"But I saw footage of this Antifa guy punch a neo-Nazi."

"Yeah, well, I saw footage of a Nazi...well, never mind. It's too disturbing to talk about what I saw."

"What about that BLM guy who shot a cop?"

"I'm not familiar with that story. But I don't think killing cops is part of BLM's agenda, or else there would be a rash of incidences and BLM would officially be considered a terrorist organization. They aren't. Know who is? Fucking KKK."

"But the left always gives me shit for using the wrong words. Isn't that oppression?"

"You can still say whatever you want. Might get some shit, but the other side wants to deprive certain people of jobs, housing and even life. No comparison."

"Shut up hippy faggot."

Severian 08.18.2017 08:45 AM

I know it's my goddamn duty. That's why my pathetic ass was up all night with the ONE like-minded friend passionate enough to speak up, arguing this point to Fucking oblivion with a veritable social media mob of assholes from our extended friend circles. We both felt like shit afterwards, and felt like we'd sunk to their level, but at the same time, IT'S. FUCKING. NAZISM. We were taught to flip shit over even the appearance of Nazism and white supremacism in goddamn junior high school. Not violently, of course, but we were taught to recognize the symbols and rhetoric affiliated with these movements as threats to our very existence, and to everything decent about our way of life. So we spent the late night and early morning in the mud, trying to remind people of this, and we made some good points, but changed zero minds. Depressing.

A real-life, long-term solution is needed. I am starting to communicate with the VERY FEW people I know who both A) are terrified of fascism, Nazism, white supremacy, militarized hate groups and B) believe that it's counter-productive to punch or attack or use violence of any kind against these people without provocation. It's fucking terrifying how shallow that pool is, but I've got a solid group of people who fit the criteria, and we're starting to talk about next moves. Solutions. What the FUCK to do next.

It's worth noting that at least a third of my friends, stuck in some privileged and entitled state of perpetual adolescence, think I'm part of the problem because I don't publicly condone unprovoked violence against Nazis; because I think that's dangerous and counter-productive and will only legitimize these claims that the "alt-left" are the real threat. These folks live in places like Portland and Seattle, mind you, where I used to live, and they have the freedom to publicly decry the alt-right without worrying that they're going to piss off their co-workers or bosses in the process. The very freedom to do this is a Fucking luxury in many parts of the country right now, and I happen to love in one of those places. Fuck's sake!!!

THE. WORLD. HAS. A. LEARNING. DISABILITY.

!@#$%! 08.18.2017 10:18 AM

this is some heavy shit. you win at the internet today.

at the same time, no reason to despair yet.


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