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Toilet & Bowels 08.31.2017 08:44 AM

Do you guys like Nina Turner?

ilduclo 08.31.2017 04:43 PM

I suppose Halliburton and a bunch of other sleazes are lined up at the hurricane relief scam trough. Shock Doctrine, indeedy

http://content.time.com/time/arts/ar...666221,00.html

tesla69 09.01.2017 04:19 PM

Is Trump being held under house arrest by the military? Has there already been a coup?

http://investmentwatchblog.com/break...n-turned-away/

“Exactly, so I’d heard from people that Trump is on house arrest,” replied Mike Cernovich, “I thought ‘oh c’mon, the President of the United States, that’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard’, but I kept digging into it and I kept hearing the same thing over and over again and then, of course, John Bolton wrote his column for National Review and he’s begging people to retweet it, he said ‘this is the only way the President is gonna see it,’ and I’ll say Alex, I don’t really understand, how can Trump not see who he wants to see? This is something I don’t really fully comprehend within the White House. I have talked to a lot of people, it’s a very weird situation.”

!@#$%! 09.01.2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
Is Trump being held under house arrest by the military? Has there already been a coup?

http://investmentwatchblog.com/break...n-turned-away/

“Exactly, so I’d heard from people that Trump is on house arrest,” replied Mike Cernovich, “I thought ‘oh c’mon, the President of the United States, that’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard’, but I kept digging into it and I kept hearing the same thing over and over again and then, of course, John Bolton wrote his column for National Review and he’s begging people to retweet it, he said ‘this is the only way the President is gonna see it,’ and I’ll say Alex, I don’t really understand, how can Trump not see who he wants to see? This is something I don’t really fully comprehend within the White House. I have talked to a lot of people, it’s a very weird situation.”



LOLOLOLOLOLOL

HI PUTIN!!

The Soup Nazi 09.01.2017 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
Is Trump being held under house arrest by the military? Has there already been a coup?

http://investmentwatchblog.com/break...n-turned-away/

“Exactly, so I’d heard from people that Trump is on house arrest,” replied Mike Cernovich, “I thought ‘oh c’mon, the President of the United States, that’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard’, but I kept digging into it and I kept hearing the same thing over and over again and then, of course, John Bolton wrote his column for National Review and he’s begging people to retweet it, he said ‘this is the only way the President is gonna see it,’ and I’ll say Alex, I don’t really understand, how can Trump not see who he wants to see? This is something I don’t really fully comprehend within the White House. I have talked to a lot of people, it’s a very weird situation.”


 

ilduclo 09.01.2017 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
Do you guys like Nina Turner?


Tina!!

Severian 09.01.2017 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
 


You know I'm loving this, right?

The Soup Nazi 09.01.2017 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
You know I'm loving this, right?


I thought you might. :D

tesla69 09.04.2017 07:44 PM

The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 3, 2017

!@#$%! 09.04.2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 3, 2017

where is he gonna get his baseball caps from?

ilduclo 09.05.2017 11:15 AM

 

Severian 09.05.2017 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
 


Motherfuck ass fuckers. I can't even laugh at the jokes anymore. The photoshopped memes. They make it seem as if what's really happening is just some farce to be clucked at and dismissed. Goddammit. Fuck fuck fuck.

ilduclo 09.05.2017 12:35 PM

^ I think the humor is entirely necessary. At least it is for me and those I hang around with...

evollove 09.05.2017 12:51 PM

Okay, another bad day for America.

But T-Dog still isn't using a private server.

So I'm sleeping easy.

Severian 09.05.2017 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
^ I think the humor is entirely necessary. At least it is for me and those I hang around with...


I'm trying to wrap my head around the "antifa" thing (if anyone knows what, precisely, this word refers to, let me know, because it's being used as a catch-all for "protestor" ... not even "violent protestor," but just anyone in the streets yelling, and it's not actually an organized group with bylaws and membership requirements and a mission statement, so I think we're being spun like crazy on both sides of the issue), and the militarized police force pushes, and DACA, and I can no longer bring myself to laugh. Is he stupid and ridiculous and worthy of ridicule? Yes. But I just feel desperate, impotent anger when I see his fat stupid face (WHOSE FACE LOOKS LIKE THAT?! IT'S LIKE GOD WANTED US TO HATE HIM! WHO LOVED THIS GUY?!) ... I don't feel the desire to laugh.

Severian 09.05.2017 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Okay, another bad day for America.

But T-Dog still isn't using a private server.

So I'm sleeping easy.


See, I want to laugh, but it just makes me seethe with anger instead when I think about any of the absurd goddamn decisions that our moron masses have made to bring us here. God FUCKING FUCK!

evollove 09.05.2017 06:55 PM

If you got more involved, your anger would be productive and not so unhealthy, so seethe-y.

Sounds obvious when I type it out. Still, you could bear to read it, it seems.

Don't blame your job for lack of involvement. Want to get involved? Easy. Fund my travel to the next protest in DC. It's an idea which solves a few problems at once.

Severian 09.05.2017 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
If you got more involved, your anger would be productive and not so unhealthy, so seethe-y.

Sounds obvious when I type it out. Still, you could bear to read it, it seems.

Don't blame your job for lack of involvement. Want to get involved? Easy. Fund my travel to the next protest in DC. It's an idea which solves a few problems at once.


I'm actually getting involved through my job, but that's all I'm going to say about that. I've donated to ACLU and Southern Poverty. I've signed petitions. I've engaged in hours and hours of discourse with Trump supporters trying to understand and reason with them, and hear what they have to say, and understand. I've spent hours trying to convince my "we're still punk cause our parents are millionaires" friends not to fuck with statues or punch people or bring clubs to protests.

I'm pretty involved. Compared to the people I work with, I'm Malcolm Fucking X.

Not saying I couldn't more, but again, I'm finding roads to that through work. So... shut up. :D

Severian 09.05.2017 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
If you got more involved, your anger would be productive and not so unhealthy, so seethe-y.

Sounds obvious when I type it out. Still, you could bear to read it, it seems.

Don't blame your job for lack of involvement. Want to get involved? Easy. Fund my travel to the next protest in DC. It's an idea which solves a few problems at once.


I'd like to fund my own not-die-of-starvation campaign thank you very much.

evollove 09.06.2017 06:31 AM

 

!@#$%! 09.06.2017 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove
 

😂😂😂😂😂

ilduclo 09.06.2017 08:46 AM

cynical cynical shit about the Dream Act. What a fucking shame. Disgusting.

Rob Instigator 09.06.2017 09:59 AM

notice that they will NOT deport white folks immigrating illegally from and through Canada.

Severian 09.06.2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
😂😂😂😂😂


Wait, emojis work here now?

😵

Severian 09.06.2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
notice that they will NOT deport white folks immigrating illegally from and through Canada.


Noticed.

tesla69 09.06.2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
cynical cynical shit about the Dream Act. What a fucking shame. Disgusting.


A hard political move to force the Congress to enact democratic law and not rule by presidential decree, absolutely cynical but Congress needs to address the law, or not address it.

If I could vote, I would vote for them to stay, but I also want the borders to be secure. Personally, I think anyone who carries a cell phone should be denied the vote. They've already shown they are feudal slaves to the corporate state.

!@#$%! 09.06.2017 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
A hard political move to force the Congress to enact democratic law and not rule by presidential decree, absolutely cynical but Congress needs to address the law, or not address it.

If I could vote, I would vote for them to stay, but I also want the borders to be secure. Personally, I think anyone who carries a cell phone should be denied the vote. They've already shown they are feudal slaves to the corporate state.

yes! deny the vote to all cell phone users!

i knew you were rational in spite of all appearances!

let 4 people decide the election

Severian 09.06.2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
yes! deny the vote to all cell phone users!

i knew you were rational in spite of all appearances!

let 4 people decide the election


You know, if the five or six of us who frequent this thread just ignored tesla, it would be like he didn't even exist here.

Just sayin' ...

🤔

!@#$%! 09.06.2017 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
You know, if the five or six of us who frequent this thread just ignored tesla, it would be like he didn't even exist here.

Just sayin' ...

🤔


silence is consent

fuck him

evollove 09.07.2017 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
President Obama established DACA by executive order, which was ultra vires by virtue of violating Separation of Powers, as Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution clearly states: "The Congress shall have Power ... To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization[.]"



DACA recipients aren't Naturalized.

Severian 09.07.2017 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
I'm not so sure about the cell phone thing, but tesla's right about the cut-and-dried legal aspects of what the press is treating as a highly emotional issue. President Obama established DACA by executive order, which was ultra vires by virtue of violating Separation of Powers, as Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution clearly states: "The Congress shall have Power ... To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization[.]" President Trump's statement on the issue is in accord with the Constitution:

 
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Congress now has 6 months to legalize DACA (something the Obama Administration was unable to do). If they can't, I will revisit this issue!
8:38 PM - Sep 5, 2017



PEOPLE are treating it as a highly emotional issue. PEOPLE are protesting. PEOPLE are telling their stories. The press is reporting on what PEOPLE are doing.

Goddamn bloody well hate it when someone slams the press because they don't like what's HAPPENING, AND AS A RESULT, BEING COVERED.

Fuck's sake.

Severian 09.07.2017 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove
DACA recipients aren't Naturalized.


Yeah, that's part of his point though. It's a "legal cut and dried" issue, not something that, like, effects millions of people and disrupts families and punishes people for nothing.... it's totally "legal" and not at all "emotional" (🙄) so it's all OK as long as Congress decides to naturalize these people. Which I'm oh-so sure is what they will do, since they can get so much done.

Anyway. Trump doesn't give a fist fuck about anyone. He sees his voter base slipping and he's trying to kill two birds with one stone: fulfill campaign promises to remove every single undocumented immigrant, while putting the burden of being the bad guy squarely on a Congress that is distancing itself from him more and more.

!@#$%! 09.07.2017 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
OK. so I concede my point in part, save for the fact that the press, by virtue of editorializing, is one of the several major public opinion-shaping vehicles in society, and the coverage has been heavily emotionally slanted in favor of the Dreamers while largely ignoring the shoddy legal basis of DACA.


lol, little jeff sessions

don't you have some lynching to conduct?

Severian 09.07.2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
OK. so I concede my point in part, save for the fact that the press, by virtue of editorializing, is one of the several major public opinion-shaping vehicles in society, and the coverage has been heavily emotionally slanted in favor of the Dreamers while largely ignoring the shoddy legal basis of DACA.


Ok, chief... you can't slam "the press" and then base it on how you feel about editorializing, which is not hard news reporting and has always been part of the media model. Editorializing is not newswriting, so instead of saying the press is slanted, say editorials are slanted (they're supposed to be... they are opinion pieces written, traditionaly, by editors. Think of them as columns if it helps). Being upset that editorializing exists is fine, but don't accuse "The Press" of slanting information.

There seems to be a pretty widespread lack of understanding about this, especially lately. Opinion pieces are not the news. If your perspective is that the ores as a whole is slanting facts instead of reporting them, you should back that up with some examples from non-editorial pages of AP-affiliated publications.

As it stands, you just sound like every other jackass who is blaming what's happening in the world on the people who tell you about it.

Severian 09.07.2017 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
It's clearly an executive end-run around the terms of the Immigration and Naturalization Act relating to lawful permanent residency. For the President to order his executive agencies not to enforce certain laws against certain people is as unconstitutional as the Bush Administration's infamous "signing statements".


Oh for fuck's sake.

You're either for or against the executive authority. You can't defend one example of "overreach" by calling it a response to another one. If you don't like executive orders that circumvent the legislative process, you should be against Trump's threats to take things into his own hands if congress doesn't act AND Obama's willingness to do the same, and every instance thereof.

You're not an idiot. Think about it.

!@#$%! 09.07.2017 12:05 PM

sounds like a jackass

looks like a jackass

smells like he drank deodorant

fuck him

Severian 09.07.2017 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
lol, little jeff sessions

don't you have some lynching to conduct?


"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to !@#$%! again."

I spread and I spread but I still can't rep you. This is what friends look like. :D

The Soup Nazi 09.07.2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
lol, little jeff sessions


Makes you miss the time when the Attorney General was a singer-songwriter. LET THE EEEAAAAGLE SOOOAAAAAR...

ilduclo 09.07.2017 05:19 PM

this one?
 

The Soup Nazi 09.07.2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
this one?
 


Yeah dude! Fuck 'em both, but LET THE EEEAAAAGLE SOOOAAAAAR and shit!


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