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E. Noisefield 10.29.2011 05:49 PM

Sonic Youth- 8/10
Confusion is Sex- 8/10
Bad Moon Rising- 10/10
EVOL- 9/10
Sister- 10/10
DDN- 10/10
Goo- 8/10
Dirty- 7/10
Ex. Jet Set Trash and No Star- 8/10
Washing Machine- 7.5/10
A Thousand Leaves- 10/10
NYC Ghosts & Flowers- 8.5/10
Murray Street- 10/10
Sonic Nurse- 8/10
Rather Ripped- 8.5/10
The Eternal- 7.5/10

Everything is rated based on "for what it is" standards. So, the SY EP, though not really a better album than, say, Eternal, gets a higher score because of its consistency. No bad songs.

Really, there are times when I think they're each perfect in their own way, like Beatles albums. How do you compare HELP! to the White Album? They're both 10's in completely different ways.

SY has, in my opinion, the best track record in rock history.

Mortte Jousimo 10.30.2011 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E. Noisefield
Sonic Youth- 8/10
Confusion is Sex- 8/10
Bad Moon Rising- 10/10
EVOL- 9/10
Sister- 10/10
DDN- 10/10
Goo- 8/10
Dirty- 7/10
Ex. Jet Set Trash and No Star- 8/10
Washing Machine- 7.5/10
A Thousand Leaves- 10/10
NYC Ghosts & Flowers- 8.5/10
Murray Street- 10/10
Sonic Nurse- 8/10
Rather Ripped- 8.5/10
The Eternal- 7.5/10

Everything is rated based on "for what it is" standards. So, the SY EP, though not really a better album than, say, Eternal, gets a higher score because of its consistency. No bad songs.

Really, there are times when I think they're each perfect in their own way, like Beatles albums. How do you compare HELP! to the White Album? They're both 10's in completely different ways.

SY has, in my opinion, the best track record in rock history.

Yeah you´re right. In Beatles differences between early and later records are even bigger as they´re in Sonic records, but they´re all great!

E. Noisefield 10.30.2011 01:17 PM

I'm going to change my Washing Machine rating to 8/10.

No, it's not my favorite. One of my least favorites actually, but it has some incredible songs, and very few bad spots. For SY it's not perfect, but by normal standards it's a monolith.

Pelle 10.30.2011 01:38 PM

Good that!

I mean, 7.5 c'mon........ :D

E. Noisefield 10.30.2011 03:15 PM

Jesus... there are a lot of not-very-consistent SY fans here. I'm seeing a lot more 5's and 6's than I would expect.

E. Noisefield 10.30.2011 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E. Noisefield
Sonic Youth- 8/10
Confusion is Sex- 8/10
Bad Moon Rising- 10/10
EVOL- 10/10
Sister- 10/10
DDN- 10/10
Goo- 8/10
Dirty- 7/10
Ex. Jet Set Trash and No Star- 8/10
Washing Machine- 8/10
A Thousand Leaves- 10/10
NYC Ghosts & Flowers- 9/10
Murray Street- 10/10
Sonic Nurse- 8/10
Rather Ripped- 8.5/10
The Eternal- 7.5/10

E.


That's better.

_slavo_ 10.31.2011 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E. Noisefield
Jesus... there are a lot of not-very-consistent SY fans here. I'm seeing a lot more 5's and 6's than I would expect.


Being consistent means being blindfolded and giving every single release an inevitable 10/10, because "i'm a fan?". How old are you, 12?

ann ashtray 10.31.2011 02:25 AM

Pretty sure I've responded to this before, but to reflect my current feelings:

Sonic Youth- 8/10
Confusion is Sex- 9/10
Bad Moon Rising- 10/10
EVOL- 6/10
Sister- 7.5/10
DDN- 7.5/10
Goo- 5/10
Dirty- 7.5/10
Ex. Jet Set Trash and No Star- 6.5/10
Washing Machine- 6/10
A Thousand Leaves- 10/10
NYC Ghosts & Flowers- 9.5/10
Murray Street- 8.5/10
Sonic Nurse- 10/10
Rather Ripped- 2/10
The Eternal- 7.5/10

Miss Pornstar 10.31.2011 07:08 AM

Sonic Youth- 7/10
Confusion is Sex- 7/10
Bad Moon Rising- 9/10
EVOL- 10/10
Sister- 10/10
DDN- 10/10
Goo- 9/10
Dirty- 9/10
Ex. Jet Set Trash and No Star- 8/10
Washing Machine- 9/10
A Thousand Leaves- 8/10
NYC Ghosts & Flowers- 6/10
Murray Street- 9/10
Sonic Nurse- 9/10
Rather Ripped- 7/10
The Eternal- 8/10

Mortte Jousimo 10.31.2011 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _slavo_
Being consistent means being blindfolded and giving every single release an inevitable 10/10, because "i'm a fan?". How old are you, 12?

I give 10 if I think it´s the album that deserves ten. I could give ten to every Sonic Youth album if I truly think they are worth of it.

_slavo_ 10.31.2011 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
I give 10 if I think it´s the album that deserves ten. I could give ten to every Sonic Youth album if I truly think they are worth of it.


Yes, that's understandable and truly legitimate. I was reacting on that tedious E.Noisefield's comment.

bloodcrystallisetosand 10.31.2011 09:37 AM

SY - 7
CiS - 10
BMR - 8
Evol - 8 (cracking album but a little bit over-rated to me)
Sister - 10
DDN - 10
Goo - 7
Dirty - 8
Jet Set - 6
Washing Machine - 4 (and only that high because of Diamond Sea)
ATL - 7 (some of the all-time high marks, some real bland bits too)
NYCG&F - 7
Murray Street - 8
Nurse - 10
Rather Ripped - 8
Eternal - 2

SYRs:
1 - 9
2 - 8
3 - 7
4 - 8
5 - 3
6 - 8
7 - 4 (again, over-rated - what's the deal?)
8 - 8
9 - 6

Silver sessions - 8
Kill yr Idols - 9
Destroyed room - 8
Melbourne Direct - 9
without kim - 7
Kali yug - 8
Master-dik - 4
sonic death - 7

lee:
amarillo ramp - 9
maelstrom from drift - 8 (glacial trio extract makes me very excited for the lp dropping)
scriptures - 9
east jesus - 8

thurston:
hurricane floyd - 9
psychic hearts - 7
tress - 8
demolished - 8

there's probably some other stuff i've heard but as i'm at work at the moment i can't have a rifle through the discs and hard-drive. oh, just remembered a bonus one:

13-06-1999 seaport boot (supporting modern jazz quartet?) - 10. fucking blinding set, a few bits of syr, never written a note for percussion, killer expressway w/ jam, very early renegade princess (if memory serves). go to utkonos and get it NOW.

bloodcrystallisetosand 10.31.2011 09:43 AM

Nice to see the big love for Nurse btw, best they've done since DDN.

jennthebenn 10.31.2011 05:30 PM

Sy Ep--7
Cis--9
Bmr--7.5
Evol--8.5
Sister--10
Ddn--10
Goo--9
Dirty--8.5
Exp. Jet Set--7.5
Wm--8.5
Atl--10
Nyc--5
Ms--8
Nurse--8.5
Rr--7
Eternal--10

E. Noisefield 10.31.2011 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _slavo_
Being consistent means being blindfolded and giving every single release an inevitable 10/10, because "i'm a fan?". How old are you, 12?


I just didn't expect to see so many low scores. I figured most of us would love at least 90% of their albums, disliking 1 per person at most. I'm not judging, or saying we should all love everything. Just surprised a bit.

But I shouldn't have said "inconsistent". You're right, that's not the right word at all.

Mortte Jousimo 11.01.2011 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
The ones I rated higher, are the ones I listen to the most. Not based on how good I think they are. Does that make sense? I think EVOL deserves a 10/10, but I don't listen to it that often.

To me the point is, how good album is. But on the other hand, I listen very much albums that I think they´re good.

Mortte Jousimo 11.01.2011 04:05 AM

It´s great to see how favourites and non-favourites differs almost each one. I think that proofs how great band SY is.

bloodcrystallisetosand 11.01.2011 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
The ones I rated higher, are the ones I listen to the most. Not based on how good I think they are. Does that make sense? I think EVOL deserves a 10/10, but I don't listen to it that often.


I know what you mean man, I think the difference between this kind of poll and an, ahem, 'serious' poll by journalists in a magazine is that ones on a board are wholly subjective whereas magazine ones are striving for objectivity: for you to give EVOL a 10 would be trying to do the objective bit, but I say fuck it and rate on a personal scale. I'm the same with that one: I get it was hugely significant and timeless, but I don't think it's quite on the same level as Sister and DDN despite received wisdom.

bloodcrystallisetosand 11.01.2011 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E. Noisefield
I just didn't expect to see so many low scores. I figured most of us would love at least 90% of their albums, disliking 1 per person at most. I'm not judging, or saying we should all love everything. Just surprised a bit.


But the thing with SY is that there are different song writers with, at times, hugely contrasting styles: my low rating for ATL is because the Kim songs on it are shite. She has done some cracking stuff - Kissability is the sexiest anti-sexism song ever, hands down - but each writer appeals to different people and each writer has personal peaks and troughs of quality. Hence DDN being the 'perfect' SY album - all 3 writers were on killer form throughout. Hence the chap a couple of messages back saying his fave track is Rain on Tin (good call btw) but that Murray Street as a whole is a 7.

Screaming Skull 11.01.2011 02:45 PM

Sonic Youth - 6/10
Confusion Is Sex + Kill Your Idols - 8/10
Bad Moon Rising - 7/10
Evol - 9/10
Sister - 10/10
Daydream Nation - 10/10
Goo - 8/10
Dirty - 9/10
Experimental Jet Set, Trash & No Star - 7/10
Washing Machine - 9/10
A Thousand Leaves - 6/10
New York City Ghosts & Flowers - 5/10
Murray Street - 9/10
Sonic Nurse - 8/10
Rather Ripped - 7/10
The Eternal - 7/10

The Whitey Album - 7/10


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