may smashed again

by some 60 votes

2nd referendum plz

Her rubbish deal could be voted on three times, with the results for everyone to see, but asking people what they would like to happen a second time is apparently undemocratic. Hmmm...ok.

watched her speak to parliament today and seems like a fucking egomaniac.

clearly failed and clearly has no support. isn’t this when they fall on their swords?

if so, she should proceed, and have new elections, because her tenure has been a fucking disaster.

why won’t she admit she sucks, and quit? nobody wants her.

the DUPs just said they’d rather stay in europe than damage the union.

monday some runoffs proposed.

She treats the negotiations as her own personal mission, which seems to be her approach to everything. She won't accept that she's not gonna deliver a solution and if anything is now more of an obstacle to any progress being made.

I've always disagreed with the principle of a second referendum but I'd accept one now. But it would have to be a straight fight between no-deal leave and business-as-usual-remain. I'd vote to leave but would accept either outcome as being better than this fucking around trying to please everyone. And no power within Parliament to take control of the decision once it was made. Leave means leave, Remain means remain. A general election would achieve nothing.

oh, “the people’s vote”

right

I have a problem with the term "people's vote" (who voted in the last one?) but essentially yes: let's leave this once and for all to the British public, rather than a bunch of cunts in parliament.

dont know thats what they were calling it. everything has a name now. like brexit. hilarious to hear the pm saying “brexit” with a straight face.

Those most vocally calling for a second referndum have used the term "people's vote", which for me was precisely what the first one was, but anyway.

right but the idea was an exit with a deal not just random bullshit yes?

i can’t believe (there’s that phrase) may’s incompetence in this: triggering article 50 with no plan, etc

eta: or better

The original refendum was a simple decision between leaving and staying. It was never conditional on any kind of exit deal.

but wasnt the leave campaign sold on the basis dictating terms to europe and what not?

Both sides had lots of different perspectives but ultimately the decision was a simple one.

nothing ever simple about divorces...

maybe “simplistic” is the right adjective

a simplistic choice ultimately a false one

Especially when you involve lawyers/politicians

that’s precisely why i don’t want medicare for all

You're gonna become the equivalent of whatever the QAnon people will be in 20 years time as your country only ever continues to make the case that socialism is needed and you feel more and more detached from how people actually see the world. My uncle was Nostradamus alongside my other uncle who worked at Nintendo so you can trust my instinct here.


Brexit? Give us a vote then give us a general election. Clean slate. Let the chips fall where they may.

but nostrildamo, ive always been an outsider

who cares?

not a moocow

Well hey if you're happy with that inevitable outcome then I can't really tell you off for it. Free will and all.

yes

anyway sticking to the news (not the faraway future) looks like a customs union is close to a majority...

really curious about the brexit plan b vote results which are being counted right now...

watching the pound, currently at ~1.31 vs the dollar

casino scenarios (of actual happenings, not indicative votes):

hard brexit would drop it to 1.13... OUCH

revoking article 50 would lift it to 1.50!

general election... down to 1.20... (so much uncertainty)

2nd referendum to 1.42!

may's deal passing, to 1.35...

customs union to 1.40!

parliament tv (straight to the mainline) https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Commons

bells ringing... announcement in 10 minutes...

customs union barely fails (3 votes)
common market 2.0 fails
confirmatory public vote fails
parliamentary supremacy fails

pound instantly takes a shit

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the snp calls for independence
a tory quits? [...] holy shit it's the whip nick boles

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some lady talking about landfills now lmao. k adiós.

Looks like May will put her original deal (with minor amendments) to a 4th vote tomorrow. Assuming it doesn't pass there's increased talk of a snap general election, with her leading the Tories, who will desperately want to avoid this. It'll be a gift for Labour.

may about to make whats sure to be another useless bombastic statement peppered with first-person pronouns

“I...”

useless, unless she fucking quits :D

wow she didn't make it about herself

miracles!

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the pound rose a bit, which is "kinda hopeful" lolol

She's been a disastrous negotiator, and I'm certainly not a fan, but for all her unwillingness to listen to others I'll credit her with one thing: I think she's always ultimately wanted a deal that she felt was in the country's best interests. That should be a given but it's certainly more than can be said of a number of people in her party and the opposition (on both sides of the debate) who have clearly been playing this to serve their own ends, regardless of how that might affect the country.

i noticed that today

now let's see how corbyn responds...

(eta: tusk playing good cop on twitter)

mogg synthesizer opposed to cross-party talks. what a cunt!

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and now the DUP joins the chorus lololo

Hell yes.

scenario of snap election is pound drops 1110 pips to about $1.20...

pound rose today to 1.313 after may’s pronouncement, now sitting steady there, market is not seeing change of government yet

eta just checked from current price to 1.20 would be 1264 pips (it’s a shitton of money, the way the market moves)

juncker just took a shit down may’s throat (gross i know) and raised the stakes

i hope he’s a good blackjack player...

bercow cast a tie breaking no against monday indicative votes and waxes historical and this shit is very entertaining hahahahahah

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damn i beat the reuters alert

division on the cooper bill

cooper bill passed 315 to 310

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wow im beating the guardian now lol

this time i didnt but cooper bill kaput on committee

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OH NO THE STUPID GUARDIAN FUCKED UP LMAO

they write:


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they vote on amendments right now

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...exit-live-news

the geezers are losing it

third reading now?

the bill wins by 1 vote and a tory pretends to be jesus

guys, im reading about your house of lords, and what da fuc

pound has been climbing out of the gutter since markets opened in sydney on monday (sunday for the rest of us?) and now that the cooper amendment passed looks like it will go higher. nowhere near the 1.33 heights from earlier in the year yet, but clearing above 1.30 now... till the next bit of bad news that is hahhahana.

and now, “the royal assent” lololol. ah, england!