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pokkeherrie 06.26.2008 11:44 AM

In order to try and reclaim my 1st place (which should be mine......miiiiiiiine, dammit!) from o o o I went for a pretty much all-German team, because I thought that was going to be the easiest game to call... I was surprised at two fronts:

1. Great play by Turkey! Offensive football! Until last night the only thing that had been exciting about Turkey were their spectacular comebacks, but yesterday they were more on the attack than they had done in all their previous games combined. Even with 9 players missing they still were the best team on the pitch in my opinion. The biggest surprise of Euro 2008.

2. Poor showing by Germany yet again. Two great goals (Schweinsteiger's and Lahm's) but other than that it was a piss-poor performance by die Mannschaft. The only good game I've seen them play this tournament was against Portugal... who weren't on their best either that night. Still, I thought they would've found their form after that game. Yesterday they proved me wrong. It was ugly, it had no flair, but in the end it got the job done, beating the Turks with their own weapons. They deserve respect for that, but currently they are a far cry from the exciting German team led by Klinsmann at the 2006 World Cup. They seem to have returned to the ugly football from 1990, 1996, etc... That has proven to be more successful of course, but I'd be disappointed if they'd end up winning it like this.

gualbert 06.26.2008 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAULYBEE2656
thinking about adding a few turks because they could well be this years greece... turkey russia final is not too far away!


Ts ts.
Please tell who will win the final , and it will be the other one.

Bertrand 06.26.2008 04:40 PM

Poor Russia, they were nowhere tonight, forwards faded even more in the second half.
Fabregas was brillant. It seemed easy most of the time.

So now, it's a o o o - pokkeherrie mano a mano for the first place. I wouldn't bet on the latter, but who knows, nominating the right guy for captain and it could do the trick. And prevent o o o from winning a big tournament again.
For the third place - as obviously the rest of us would have to have four captains to get higher - there's a pack of three teams with 211, 210 and 210 points, followed by another pack a goal and an assist away.

I hope Spain wins.

GrungeMonkey 06.26.2008 04:43 PM

ive stuck with torres for the whole tournament and it hasnt really paid off
have i learnt?
not at all, theres a hat trick coming in the final

Bertrand 06.26.2008 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrungeMonkey
ive stuck with torres for the whole tournament and it hasnt really paid off
have i learnt?
not at all, theres a hat trick coming in the final


Good, don't drop someone you held on to.
In a past tournament, I waved a Blackburn player bye bye and he scored 6 goals in the 4 games he played before I got him back (which brought someone I won't name to ridicule me).

Keep faith !

Besides, the German full backs are not top notch.

HECKLER SPRAY 06.26.2008 05:11 PM

Yeah, better and better, I'm 10th !!!
Good shot, Spain !!!

PAULYBEE2656 06.27.2008 12:36 PM

russians were rally fucked wernt they.. shame.. villa out for final... and im now 5th... its close between the top tho...

PAULYBEE2656 06.29.2008 03:58 AM

now the final and to throw a spanner in the works.. ballack is looking likely not to play!!! but uncertain ..

mil_pl 06.29.2008 04:09 AM

anyone saw any match by Poland ?
they were so poor...

and the last match today Spain - Germany
i'm with spain tonight, I root them since Poland lose out.

pbradley 06.29.2008 05:44 AM

europe itself is a fantasy to me

PAULYBEE2656 06.29.2008 03:56 PM

well... the sport of football won in the end! great spainish performance.. germany were appalling...

now the real race is on.. ive my sights on 3rd in the table but it will be close.... results are being processed!

█████████ 06.29.2008 03:59 PM

olé!!!

i tought the german pigs would win, though.
my score is going down.

PAULYBEE2656 06.29.2008 04:03 PM

8th to 3rd in the league is fucking damn close.. i hope of my gamble of not picking ballack paid off..... im unsure tho!

█████████ 06.29.2008 04:08 PM

i'm going 3rd to 8th, but fuck yes spain won!

PAULYBEE2656 06.29.2008 04:13 PM

pos / team / player / points in final / overall total points

1 Los niños del parque Emmanuel B. 41 303
2 Obiku FC Mike Obiku 48 291
3 eurofauxhemians fc paul boggan 43 252
4 George Best's Liver Bertrand Di Cesare 47 249
5 Allantoic Parasites Christoph Weikinger 32 242
6 Ball in the Heather nic fit 44 242
7 bolanarede joa fer 30 241
8 lionel hutz Charlie Bakhos 29 233
9 FC Gangrape Chris Thomas 55 207
10 ShongleFest Sean Thomas 37 206
11 Tchernobyl Boys Heckler Spray 38 203
12 Glasgow Enculouz 2 Philippe Pachot 17 160
13 Bulldogs FC D. Tatarian 6 155


THE FINAL PLACINGS
congrats emmanuelle and mike but 3rd.. fuck yeah... im happy! and i beat bertrand by 3 points!!!!

nicfit 06.29.2008 04:18 PM

well, I think I did really good...started off lame (erm, didn't even read the rules properly...) then kinda resurrected in the last few games.
Almost catched up with you pauly...watch your back for the next challenges......

Bertrand 06.29.2008 04:48 PM

Edited (cuz hadn't seen nicfit's post, whose progression had to be stopped)

^ Thanks, bolanerede coach, my final place feels much more comfortable ^

And apart from Pauly usurping the third place, it was quite fun.
The real life result satisfied me.
Lahm's replacement surprised me.
And I chuckled, thinking about those who had him in. Same for Ballack, I encouraged the referee to give him another card, but he didn't hit the whole line of midfielders, so I guess he didn't deserve it.
Will Mertesacker and Metzelder (and Friedrich too) be there during the 2010 World Cup qualifying games? I doubt they finish the series of matches if they start them.
Oh, and a big thank you to Atari; even though he didn't replace his players in the last games, I thought it was great to see a non-European playing along.

!@#$%! 06.29.2008 04:51 PM

that was a nice fucking game

who won all the money?

pokkeherrie 06.29.2008 06:53 PM

Good to see Spain won. They've been consistent throughout and have shown a few different styles this tournament. They totally deserve their title for the next 4 years. How Germany could have reached the final is still beyond me... the only reason I can think of is that it's because they're German. Granted, they didn't have the most difficult path, but apart from that one good game against Portugal they haven't impressed at all (although I did not see their first game). The Spanish weren't even at their best tonight compared to their semi-final, but still they were in control and should've scored more.


Overall, anyone willing to agree that Euro 2008 was the best (most entertaining) international tournament since ages? If Euro 2004 was the tournament of the defensive teams with a champion who perfectly reflected that, then the same can be said about Euro 2008 regarding forward-thinking football, with a well-deserved champion. One reason perhaps being that none of the 16 teams had a solid defence really?
Plus, there were so many exciting games... more than any recent tournament I can think of now. The final wasn't the best game perhaps, but then again it rarely is.

HECKLER SPRAY 06.29.2008 07:00 PM

Not as good as Euro 2000, but a really good one.
Viva Espana !!!!
I was expecting for a more scrappy german team...

pokkeherrie 06.29.2008 07:01 PM

No fantasy football victory, but Mike Obiku is happy with 2nd place still, look:

 


Initially I was going to take the all-or-nothing gamble of an all Spanish team, hoping o o o would do the same for Germany, but it turned out to be impossible. The minimum amount of forwards is two and without Villa only Torres was left for Spain's starting team. Besides, I then noticed that I was in the final of my head-to-head competition and wanted to win that one. The difference of 19 points with o o o seemed too much to catch up anyway, so I decided to mix the teams to have a better chance at the head-to-head game.

I've now won my head-to-head competition, but there's nothing! No prize, no congratulations, not even a fucking McDonald's Fantasy Football Happy Meal! :mad::(:fuckyou:

pokkeherrie 06.29.2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
Not as good as Euro 2000, but a really good one.


Agreed, Euro 2000 was a great one too, but then as a Frenchman I'd expect you to say that. :D
Best game that tournament was Spain v Yugoslavia 4-3



edit: damn, i just realised i can no longer win anything at the football game at work tomorrow, which was the only game i played that had actual money involved. i had picked germany as champions before the tournament started and if they had won tonight i maybe could've ended up 3rd or 4th with a bit of luck, winning about 15-25% of the ca$h. after the spanish victory i end up with nothing for sure.

HECKLER SPRAY 06.29.2008 07:07 PM

At least, in 2000 the final was exciting...
Yeah, sorry, I'm french, you know...

pokkeherrie 06.29.2008 07:16 PM

i missed the final that year. :o
it was actually played in my hometown (rotterdam), but i was in australia (melbourne) and overslept. i had set the alarm at 4am, or whatever time it was, but slept right through it and nobody else woke me up.

!@#$%! 06.29.2008 07:21 PM

it's a pity there is no game for the 3rd place because i would have loved to see a turkey-russia game

HECKLER SPRAY 06.29.2008 07:24 PM

Oh, sorry pokkeherrie.
It was a really good match, very thrilling, amazing with a happy ending.
Maybe nicfit won't agree with that.

GrungeMonkey 06.29.2008 07:25 PM

9th

Hmmm

Not too bad

Glad I stuck with Torres haha

pokkeherrie 06.29.2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
Oh, sorry pokkeherrie.
It was a really good match, very thrilling, amazing with a happy ending.
Maybe nicfit won't agree with that.


I did see the highlights afterwards of course... I sometimes still have nightmares about that semi-final Italy-Holland and then wake up all sweaty, still not believing it actually happened for real. the shots on the post, the red card, the two penalties during normal play and then that shoot-out....



 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLM1tglkb1M
(pele can't believe it either!)

HECKLER SPRAY 06.29.2008 07:45 PM

Yeah, this match was...epic.
The former Dutch team was good ( Davids, Overmars, Zenden, de Boer, a lot of great players), but luck was not on their side.

nicfit 06.30.2008 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
Oh, sorry pokkeherrie.
It was a really good match, very thrilling, amazing with a happy ending.
Maybe nicfit won't agree with that.


ha ha- you know what?
I use to listen to these big tournaments with commentaries done by a really funny trio of semi-comic guys (gialappa's band) on the radio, they have guests for all the nations and stuff, it's superfun to listen coz they never take thinks too seriously, and when wiltord had the ball in the last minute my "favourite" guy of the trio said:

"tranquilli, questo qui non è buono a un cazzo"

then, like 3 seconds later, he scored and I was too overwhelmed by laughter to be sad/worried, so it was ok with me to lose with a golden goal after that ha haaaa.

and, guys, what do you think about the golden goal?
One of the worst "sport ideas" ever in my opinion.

HECKLER SPRAY 06.30.2008 04:46 AM

Yeah, it's a crapy idea, it spoils the game AND the victory.
It makes the match become a game of blind chance.

o o o 07.01.2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokkeherrie
Initially I was going to take the all-or-nothing gamble of an all Spanish team, hoping o o o would do the same for Germany, but it turned out to be impossible.


I thought about it but then rather felt like "Who in their right mind would put an all-german team for this final?". I already felt strange including Lehmann once in my team (in the semi-finals, along with a full german defense, hoping that he would not score himself a goal), and it felt like too much of a gamble to trust him once more... (although, in the end, he was not the worst german player on that night to be fair, rather one of the best)

Anyway, I also enjoyed that Euro 2008 and it's good that Spain won. They did a great tournament and it's cool that it finally worked out for them this time after all the past disappointing performances.

o o o 07.01.2008 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
I was expecting for a more scrappy german team...


Me too... And by "scrappy", I'm thinking of the general mental state, not Ballack searching for a red card to perhaps lose with more fanfare than how he usually loses...

Germany probably did the best that they could do in that tournament with that collection of players, but their level of play was indeed quite disappointing. I was hoping that the game against Portugal would launch them anew in the tournament but the first few minutes of the semi-final proved otherwise...

PAULYBEE2656 07.01.2008 04:14 PM

on the plus side..

robbie keane going to liverpool in exchange for money and peter crouch..

huddlestone has resigned
berbatov looks likely to stay and we put a bid in for podolski and david villa... villa aint gonna happen but yknow..

oh and we bought modric a month ago...

cmon the premiership... let the spurs loose!

Bertrand 07.02.2008 03:03 AM

One too many o in loose.

pokkeherrie 07.02.2008 07:35 AM

You forgot about Gomes, pauly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrRBghNO6d4
Spurs fans have every reason to be excited about signing him. Don't get fooled by the fact that Brazilians usually aren't that great at goalkeeping.
This guy is very good and I'm glad PSV have to go without him next season.

pokkeherrie 07.02.2008 07:47 AM

Whoever follows up Domenech should look into selecting this guy
http://nimportequi.com/video_popupNEW.php?id_video=84

Bertrand 07.02.2008 09:20 AM

Funny !

And if Gomes goes Spurs, good for them; from European cups games I saw him play, he's quite a leader for the defence.
The Crouch-Berbatov parternship leaves me cold, if not puzzled at the idea behind it.

o o o 07.02.2008 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokkeherrie
Whoever follows up Domenech should look into selecting this guy
http://nimportequi.com/video_popupNEW.php?id_video=84


Who said that Domenech was on his way out? (it looks like he will stay, at least for a little while)

This video makes me want to score goals in police stations's doors or windows... I might try that this week-end.

pokkeherrie 07.03.2008 05:36 PM

Oooh, you're right. I read today that he's allowed to stay... silly French FA people!

The same guy who shot police windows also infiltrated the post match celebrations of the French cup final a few years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKbUOeMuvtk


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