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noisereductions 04.13.2016 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Its funny how deftones are essentially the biggest cult band of past twenty years. The critical praise of recent surprises me, seems they have somehow crashed the gates as some kind of rlder statesmen of bands simply by surviving twenty years at the fringe


this. Yeah. I feel like it's been some secret for years that they're awesome and critics are now just feeling ok with admitting that.

SEV: I like Untitled a lot. More than TPAB probably/maybe. But I'm not into it like TLOP, no.

Severian 04.13.2016 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
this. Yeah. I feel like it's been some secret for years that they're awesome and critics are now just feeling ok with admitting that.

SEV: I like Untitled a lot. More than TPAB probably/maybe. But I'm not into it like TLOP, no.


Wow, man. I'm legitimately surprised to hear that.

I had (and still have) my issues with TPAB's pacing, but the damn album is like a street poet's g-funk take on MBDTF. The two most important hip hop albums of the past 10 years, easy. So while I still usually skip tracks on TPAB, the album as a whole just shreds.

I like untitled unmastered a lot. I think untitled 01 is one of the best tracks of the year, and the rest of the album is full of prime moments.

Maybe you're just not that into Kendrick. No problem if that's the case. For me, untitled unmastered pretty much made me give up and say, OK, Kendrick's my second favorite artist in hip hop.

Is it anywhere near as colorful and joyful as TLOP? Fuck naw man. Hell to the no. But next to Kanye, Kendrick's the man. It's hard to take most modern artists seriously with those two out there killing it.

noisereductions 04.13.2016 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Maybe you're just not that into Kendrick.


this is the part I'm trying to make sense of. Cuz I do. I love Section 80 and Good Kid. Hard. And I think he's a phenomenal writer. And I think he has an amazing flow. I like his voice. And he's smart. It's weird. Everything is there. I should love this stuff... but instead I just like it. It's not hooking me the way I expect it should.

Severian 04.13.2016 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
this is the part I'm trying to make sense of. Cuz I do. I love Section 80 and Good Kid. Hard. And I think he's a phenomenal writer. And I think he has an amazing flow. I like his voice. And he's smart. It's weird. Everything is there. I should love this stuff... but instead I just like it. It's not hooking me the way I expect it should.


Ain't no shoulds or shouldn'ts in this man. I like his first two albums too. Good kid is my favorite by far. He took a pretty sharp left turn on TPAB, and even though I know you love the Jazz elements of that album, maybe it's just not what you want to hear in a hip-hop record. Luckily for you, he doesn't seem like the kind of artist who will stay in one place for too long. He's no Kanye, so I'm not going to expect every album to have an entirely different sonic foundation, but he definitely strikes me as a "phase" artist. His next two albums will probably be quite different than TPAB and uu.

I'm kinda feeling this way about the Rocky these days. I love his first two albums and think they're two of the best hip hop albums of the 2010's, but ALLA didn't quite have the same kind of lasting impact on me, and I've sort of decided that with a few exceptions, it's not what I want from Rocky.

Ain't no thang bro.

Plus, with the critics clamped on K's dick like the jaws of life, it's easy to get exhausted by it all.

noisereductions 04.13.2016 10:49 PM

yeah you nailed it. Different strokes and all. I love all the recent ASAP Mob shiz. Just whatever. It's what my ears want.

noisereductions 04.14.2016 10:15 AM

i was thinking more about this. It may be that because I am finding less and less time to listen to music lately, I'm finding myself gravitating towards things that are familiar and comfortable. Which is to say, Kendrick is so forward-thinking, that my brain may not be in a place where it wants challenging music right now. I mean I wouldn't even call Future a good rapper, but at least his album is easily digestible. I don't have to think about anything. Y'know?

Speaking of - I think Evol is really good. I can't help but think that he owes something to SpaceGhostPurrrp tho. I mean this shit sounds like Intoxxxicated 2016 man. Down to the metalic grinding noises and chanting vox.

Severian 04.14.2016 11:36 PM

I haven't really listened to anything other than TLOP and Kendrick hip hop wise for a fuckin' while now. I know I was kinda feeling Evol for a bit. I'll give it another spin. But man that shit just barely feels worth it when there's these two albums are out at the same time.

I'm so ready for some new blood in hip hop that I can get on board with. But I think I may just be getting too old to relate at all to the really new shit. I kinda feel like the rise of Rocky, Kendrick and Chance may have been the last round of up and comers that I could get on board with (them and Joey... I do love Joey).

I think I'm just getting kind of lame. If rather listen to Tribe, Digable planets, Outkast and other now super-old shit than anything new outside the realm of Kendrick, Chance, Rocky and Ye (not that he's new, but with "old" artists like him, who the fuck needs "new" ones?)

Plus there's a new PJ Harvey album out so I may be not giving a shit about much else for a while.

louder 04.18.2016 03:12 AM

1. Anderson .Paak - Malibu
2. KING - We Are KING
3. David Bowie - Blackstar
4. Kendrick Lamar - untitled unmastered.
5. Esperanza Spalding - Emily's D+Evolution
6. Snoh Aalegra - Don't Explain
7. BJ the Chicago Kid - In My Mind
8. Anthony Hamilton - What I'm Feelin'
9. Tank - Sex, Love & Pain II
10. Kevin Gates - Islah

noisereductions 04.18.2016 07:38 AM

NR's Spotify Survivor - Week 16


The Dandy Warhols - Distortland
Deftones - Gore
Future - Evol
Heliocentrics - From The Deep
Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered
Anderson Paak - Malibu
Weezer - White Album
Kanye West - The Life Of Pablo

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.18.2016 10:01 AM

All i got is Gore in heavy rotation mixed in with some Black Knights Medieval Chambers and The Almighty in there

Severian 04.18.2016 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
1. Anderson .Paak - Malibu
2. KING - We Are KING
3. David Bowie - Blackstar
4. Kendrick Lamar - untitled unmastered.
5. Esperanza Spalding - Emily's D+Evolution
6. Snoh Aalegra - Don't Explain
7. BJ the Chicago Kid - In My Mind
8. Anthony Hamilton - What I'm Feelin'
9. Tank - Sex, Love & Pain II
10. Kevin Gates - Islah



Already with this? Ok man.

1. Kanye West - The Life of Pablo
2. PJ Harvey - The Hope Six Demolition Project
3. Kendrick Lamar - untitled unmastered.
4. Moderat - III
5. Big Ups - Before a Million Universes
6. David Bowie - Blackstar

... meh. Who fucking cares.

louder 04.18.2016 11:51 AM

I think those of you who haven't heard Malibu yet would absolutely love it.. think of a modern day young Curtis Mayfield mixed with D'Angelo, Jimi and Kendrick.

noisereductions 04.18.2016 12:44 PM

I think my fav track on Malibu is "The Dreamers."

noisereductions 04.18.2016 12:46 PM

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Kanye West and streaming service Tidal have been sued for allegedly deceiving fans into subscribing to what was billed as the only place they would be able to hear West's new album, The Life of Pablo. The proposed class-action lawsuit, obtained by Pitchfork and first reported by the AP, claimed West falsely told fans the album would be exclusive to Tidal. The lawsuit was filed today in a federal court in San Francisco on behalf of Justin Baker-Rhett, described in the complaint as a fan of West's music. Originally released via Tidal in February, Pablo became available on all major non-Tidal streaming services on March 31, landing at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 chart.

The lawsuit claimed that millions signed up for Tidal because West promised it would be the exclusive place to hear his new album. Baker-Rhett requested a judge force Tidal to delete data on users who subscribed to hear Pablo. The lawsuit argued the new subscribers and their information could be worth up to $84 million. The lawsuit cites West's tweets, including one from February 15 that said the album will "never be on Apple" and "you can only get it on Tidal."

lulz

louder 04.18.2016 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
lulz

Mess.

noisereductions 04.18.2016 02:52 PM

what? He's losing it, guys.

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He's also made changes to 2013's Yeezus. According to Spin, fans have uncovered subtle changes in the Apple Music versions of a few tracks. West's opening phrase on "Black Skinhead" ("For my theme song/My leather black jeans on") now features a more distorted vocal than the original. Additionally, on "Send It Up," he's cut the backing instrumental to his line at the 1:30 mark.

What is the point?

louder 04.18.2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
what? He's losing it, guys.



What is the point?

Oh boy.

noisereductions 04.18.2016 03:25 PM

I'm just saying - where does it end? Is he gonna go back and snip verses off of MBDTF? Add a Rick Ross verse to College Dropout? Y'know what I mean?

louder 04.18.2016 03:39 PM

Probably. Young Thug is gonna be all over Late Registration.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.18.2016 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
what? He's losing it, guys.



What is the point?

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