this is great to hear and it gives me some courage

thanks

This interested me, so I did some research. No ban. No registry. It is flawed. It's not as "progressive" as some would want, but it's miles away from anything Trump Administration has proposed or, indeed, implemented.

In 2014, the U.S. government announced a new anti-terrorism initiative in the United States. The program, dubbed Countering Violent Extremism (CVE), aims to deter U.S. residents from joining "violent extremist" groups by bringing community and religious leaders together with law enforcement, health professionals, teachers and social service employees. Attorney General Eric Holder announced a White House CVE summit and three CVE pilot programs to begin in Boston, Minneapolis, and Los Angeles.

These programs, however, are not new. CVE programs have existed for some time, often with dubious results. And while purportedly aimed at rooting out all violent extremism, they have previously focused only on Muslims, stigmatizing them as a suspect community. These programs have further promoted flawed theories of terrorist radicalization which lead to unnecessary fear, discrimination, and unjustified reporting to law enforcement.

https://www.brennancenter.org/analys...-resource-page

Where do you get your "information?"

It was no surprise when Mick Mulvaney’s new and improved “no-budget” Consumer Financial Protection Bureau announced it was ending its investigation into installment-loan lender World Acceptance Corporation on Monday. Mulvaney and the Trump administration are known to be friendly to the payday loan industry, and World is no exception. Based in Mulvaney’s home state of South Carolina, the company made multiple donations to Mulvaney’s congressional campaigns, going back to 2013.

Sure, that’s not sketchy.

Wow...

The FBI just released the results of their investigation claiming that the media mogul and found of RT killed himself by repeatedly smashing his head and upper body into the ground.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...his-hotel-room

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defa...128_FBIRT1.jpg

No Muslim registry, no widespread ban, including refugees, still far away from El Douche's draconian bullshit, still uncomfortable with it. So, basically what I said. Not at all surprised FBI overstepped; they infiltrated the Occupy movement after all. It's what they do. I will confess I'm embarrassed I didn't pay more attention when the story unfurled. I'll give you that.

You know who did pay attention? Liberal/progressive groups, so your premise that liberals don't actually care is bullshit.

And what was the point of referring to some anti-racism/xenophobia signs you saw pre-Trump? Racism existed before Trump, therefore... what?

I think people are mean to you on this board. I feel bad sometimes. I guess I learned something new, but that was a shitty way to learn it. (Btw, no amount of latinite vocab and convoluted syntax makes your posts any more "intellectual." Only idiots are tricked by a dumb idea wrapped in faux academic prose.)

I'm done. Go organize with people who share your politics. Unless you don't actually care.

I increasingly wonder if 'left-wing' simply means something different for those who now describe themselves as such. But if they aren't 'Left', their cavalier attitude to free speech and apparent willingness to tip-toe around the sensitivities of certain (utterly illiberal) religions, make them equally incompatible with what I understand to be liberalism. Or maybe someone just moved the goalposts without telling me.

self driving tesla in the ditch with a shunk in the trunk!

Nah, look, we have enough problems dealing with the Trumpocalypse to go into the rabbithole (the shithole?) with Schunk. I used to think the difference between him and t69 is that the latter is obviously a paranoid schizophrenic having a psychotic break, while the former was "just" a wretched conceptual mess. But the bottomline is it doesn't fucking matter what Schunk defines as what because he was excruciatingly stupid enough to take what Trump said AT FACE VALUE and VOTE FOR THE FUCKER, even though anyone with eyes and ears could immediately tell Drumpf was lying out of his ass. That alone disqualifies Schunk to discuss anything.

This is going really well...

FBI Deputy Director McCabe stepping down

More: https://news.google.com/news/story/d...us&hl=en&gl=US

far left wing and far right wing are equally fascistic and intractable. the people that matter are the 98% that sit in the middle of that Bell Curve.

Sure. It's so hard to tell the difference between homicidal Neo-Nazis and school administrators. The fuck, Roberto? Bad people on both sides? Where have I heard that before?

Putting Robert on ignore. So done with this shit. I'll miss out on Tucker Carlson links, but I'll live.

Something similar happened at a university in Canada, where a lecturer was brought in front of a committee and had to defend herself for showing a clip of Jordan Peterson during a class debate about gender identity.

The lecturer secretly recorded the meeting on her phone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usoID8zkUQM

jeezus fuckin christ this thread lol

been busy moving but to summarize:

schunk’s first post: whataboutism and dementia (because a discreet “prevention of radicalization” is not the same as the public stoking of ethnic strife so his caveat of “qualitative difference” actually disqualifies the whole presentation as the qualitative differences are such as to make the comparison both silly and perverse)

demonyo extrapolates the lunacy of academia to society at large. there is no free speech issue with schunk— he says whatever the fuck he wants and others do the same. he defends a racist, gets called an idiot, in the marketplace of ideas

ilducio and soupnazi are being goofy which this being the internet is their prerogative i guess

as for the certain-certain-certain let’s not dance around the issue, your’re talking about muslims and islam and saying the religion is illiberal. issue is muslims come in all stripes just like christians. the american taliban is actually christian. so, deport all christians?

american muslims were doing fine until this whole bullshit with “terrorism” started. now they’re being pushed against the corner by terrible fucking policies and rhetoric.

robigator’s statement is patently true but maybe a bit of an odd timing contextualizes it as an extreme relativism

evollove is just practicing good time management, because it’s crazy to engage a crazy. just wish it was in a less wounded fashion.

tucker carlson is a shitbird no doubt

and academia is indeed an ideological hellhole which is why i quit it early and often. last discussion i had on the new blade runner with a professor friend she was foaming at the mouth and banging at the table with a fist screaming “weinstein”. so much for “ideas.”

anyway suckas have fun with this fucking marmaja of a debate

Poor little consies, they sure can dish it out but can't take it, what's called a china chin

Trump's State of the Union: 18 WTF Moments

Yeah, it’s Rolling Stone, but they’ve had better political writing than music writing in the last two years, and this is a good primer for anyone who wasn’t watching the goiter flap in real time.

Was this directed at me? Can't tell. If so, how's this: Robert Schunk is a retarded faggot.


No. Ideologically entrenched Academia is merely annoying and unfortunate. (I left a place called Antioch College after exactly one semester for that very reason.)

Living among homicidal neo-Nazis and their apologists is the real hellhole. If saying that makes me PC, color me PC. But I'm fucking sick of tolerating retarded faggots.

kissinger famously said (im paraphrasing) the reason academic fights are so vicious is because the stakes are so low

and yeah the academic casualty count is low, but it’s still a hellhole if your livelihood depends on it. and who’s afraid of virginia woolf?

but you’re right— the problem is now we have a lunatic in charge of the asylum who is applying low-stakes tactics to such high-stakes situations as the future of liberal democracies or global thermonuclear war. it’s a fucking disgrace.

the other stuff you wrote and i’m not quoting is embarrassing and goes against the point you’re trying to make, but i understand the rage and what it does to a brain. you likely need to sleep it off. what ilducio said wasn’t against you since you’re not a consie (conservative, i’m guessing) so... yeah.

don’t engage a crazy or you might become one.

Yes. This. Academia is its own kind of hell, no question. If you don’t feel that way, I daresay you’re either a minion of Satan or you haven’t experienced academia.

everything is sux. there is no perfection. at least academia doesn't send thousands to their deaths to protect three corporations oil fields.

no, seriously, academia is a special kind of hell

speaking of oil fields, check this shit out

White House seeks 72 percent cut to clean energy research, underscoring administration’s preference for fossil fuels

certainly not. was criticizing those who demand free speech zones to air their neo Nazi beliefs. Because, if they had their ways, there certainly would be no free speech

Well... I can agree with the first sentence. The second? I doubt 98% of all people MATTER — sounds like way too big of a percentage to me. :D The real point, though, is this: where in today's main public "debate" :rolleyes: is this "far left wing"? Obviously it's not CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times or The Washington Post. It's not even Bill Maher. Shit, it's not even Noam Chomsky (not that he's anywhere to be seen on media outlets like the ones I just mentioned). So, for purposes of discussing the Trumpocalyptic context in which we live, it's rather irrelevant... Unless, of course, one's willing to be sucked into the pathological vortexes of horseshit that are Faux News AND Schunk's bunk.

Train Carrying Republican Lawmakers to Retreat Crashes Into Garbage Truck

"This is proving to be extraordinarily hard work", a first responder said. "I hadn't noticed before, but garbage looks remarkably like Republican lawmakers. It's pretty difficult to tell a real live turd from one of these fuckers".

perogative? my perogi, rather

aaaand this is what your petty drunken self is really about behind the syntax, Q.E.D.

I was worried I went too far, but anyone who matters seems to get I was demonstrating I'm not PC or mindlessly virtue signaling.

Still, apologies to any mentally handicapped homosexuals I may have upset. Please know that should push come to shove, I got your back.

something I'd like to add, certainly don't need any internecine rancor. All oppo to the right wing is acceptable.

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Yep. Still right there with you on this.

Fine. But can we agree there are bigger fish to fry?

I'll make a deal: let's first work together to purge our country of right-wing killers, and then I'll do what I can to solve the problem of snowflake students and wussy administrators.

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yeah

academia, like any field, has it's hells and it's heavens.

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BOOM! You’ve been academiated! Welcome to hell! ;)

hahahha. I am the Graduate Documentation Coordinator for the University of Houston Graduate School.
At least in academia you can hold intelliogent conversations with your co-workers, as opposed to the inane drivel that passes for conversation at a corporate gig or at a large law firm (both of which I have suffered through)

anytime you use that expression you are doing it.

President Donald Trump “didn’t really care” about opening up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to oil drilling until a friend of his in the industry asked him to, he said during a speech Thursday.

Speaking to Republicans at the party’s annual retreat in West Virginia, Trump said he was convinced to put a provision in his tax bill that would open up part of the wildlife refuge to oil and gas companies after one phone call with a friend “who’s in that world and in that business.”

Recounting the phone call, Trump told lawmakers: “He said, Ronald Reagan, and every president, has wanted to get ANWR approved. And after that, I said, oh, make sure that’s in the bill. It was amazing how that had an impact, that had a very big impact on me… I really didn’t care about it and then when I heard that everybody wanted it, for 40 years they’d been trying to get it approved, I said make sure you don’t lose ANWR.”

Lol. I was just fucking with ya. Ballsy to put your job title up online though. Careful with that.

Yeah, I’m sure your setting is a better on than most bullshit corporate office gigs. I’ve been there too.

Anyway, academia in general is preferable to right-wing America in general, but I’m not sure why we’d be comparing the two. Two completely different kinds of hell.

This is so off-topic, I’m very sorry.
Who said there are bigger fish to fry? Because that person was right.