I don't think that's it, exactly. I'm pessimistic about everything, be it capitalism, communism, communalism, or whatever else, but am still sympathetically left.

Well, not everyone builds an edifice of bullshit. Many are just looking for the truth, and trying to keep things simple. Most Christians are not screaming, greedy manipulators.


The Roman Catholic church still maintains as central several things that a great many Christians find to be contrary to the teachings of Jesus.

I am one of those people, and I think the faith needed stripping of those things. I am not one of the people who think that RCs are not Christian, however (a growing trend within non-RC communities).


Yes. But the thing is, and at the risk of repeating my central thought too much, what Jesus taught is pretty clear and obvious. It's simple, beautiful and no hard to get at.


It opened the door for people to look for the truth without strict control. That's good.

There are just as many cuckoo cult-type groups within things like socialism &c for me to repeat another point; these criticisms are criticisms of people, not religion. Religion, like politics, nationality &c, is often misused by people with their own motives.


It isn't. You have my word on it.



Earlier, as you will recall, I quoted a Bible passage that agreed with you, but with a slightly different spin. Whether you personally 'need' a god is not going to make much difference to whether or not one actually exists. He does. I definitely do not need socialism, but, to my extreme annoyance, it seems to keep spawning and surviving like some kind of insane labour party flu virus.


I go to some lengths to follow Chrisitanity aound the world - printed media, broadcasts etc.

I have to admit that I do not like the vast majority of what I hear from America. I can understand Americans having huge problems with Christianity - most of what I see certainly doesn't represent what I believe, and certainly doesn't represent the teachings of Jesus. There are some people I really like, but they are the exception.

Christianity in the UK is not usually so aggressive, although that aspect is certainly present.

Christianity's main problem in recent years, I think, is that it is largely the lunatic fringe who have taken full advantage of the internet, while genuine Christian bodies failed to do so, and still fail to do so.


I understand.




I remember reading that.

Left? Liberty? Together?

:eek: :confused: (and imagine a tears of laughter smiley)

it's almost impossible to teach human-animals humility.

Jesus gave it his best shot.

so did MLK.

the system always destroys the best people; destroys and then subverts their images for global profits.

so depressingly true

I'm fucking brilliant at humility. Seriously, I'd out-humil the lot of you.

Precisely.


The kind who allows free will.

only humility (and the strong feeling that I would end up offending people) is preventing me from making a post comparing rich men, eyes of needles and yr nigh-impossible description of yr tinklenozzle.

have a sun-shiny day.

:)

I remember this brilliant letter to Viz - "They say it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into heaven. That's Cliff Richards fucked then".

"Albert Einstein may have been a genius who invented the theory of relativity, but he's dead and I'm alive. So who's laughing now?"

That's my favourite Viz letter.

Of course, I think Einstein is laughing now, because he's in Heaven, so the point of the letter is kind of lost, but still.

SONIC GAIL, you are so muthafucking RIGHT ON with this thread. YOU GO GIRL. check yr pms.

I would say that laughing (and, as implied, living in the moment) isn't necessarily a superior position, particularly in the way of contributing to science.

@ hip priest's reply

Oh yes, I missed this part. What are my personal beliefs and my age? This should be fun.

If you say I am pro- same sex marriage and the right to abort that DOES NOT COUNT because I stated that clearly.

Pour a shot,
Fire up a doob,
Have sex,
Take a leisurely dump,
Do yoga,
Eat chocolate,
Walk outside and take a look up at the stars....

it's ok i am not religious, i don't have to be accepting.

it's not really that good?