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louder 03.04.2015 03:31 PM

yo guys, this new Cudi song is SO POWERFUL, please listen to it: https://soundcloud.com/cudderland/love

louder 03.04.2015 09:00 PM

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Method Man Calls Wu-Tang Clan's 88-Year Once Upon a Time in Shaolin Release Hiatus "Stupid"
"Fuck that album."
http://pitchfork.com/news/58720-meth...hiatus-stupid/

noisereductions 03.04.2015 10:36 PM

Yeah i agree w mef

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.05.2015 12:23 AM

Its seems like they thought they still had the hype that surrounded them in 1998 or some shit.. also seems like the reason they more or less disbanded is getting increasingly obvious. I stick with all their solo records, 2013 was a great year for ghostface, inspectah deck, cappadona, ugod .. all were all top shelf. Aint had time but im lookin forward to checking out that new ghostface and cappadona when i get a chance. For now im on that black knights

noisereductions 03.05.2015 08:57 AM

at then end of the day I feel like the concept of making a piece of art for one person to experience feels like the opposite of Wu-Tang and the art of hip hop altogether. "Wu-Tang is for the children." Right? I mean, Hey RZA: think back to why you started the Wu. Was it because you felt y'all had something to say and wanted to make sure it got into as many ears as possible? And that the only way y'all knew how to express it was thru hip hop? OR... was it because you wanted to say something that only the highest bidder could hear? I just think it's kind of gross. It feels exclusionary in such a disgusting way. You got this crew that started from the bottom and blew up into a phenomenon, and now they're making an album for basically the richest buyer only.

Severian 03.05.2015 08:29 PM

What is happening to my (our) beloved Wu Tang Clan?

You know who bought ABT?

White people in their '30s. And they were disappointed. I get why, to be honest, though I hold that it's a good album -- just not good by the group's own standards.

They have a chane for redemption with Once Upon a Time in Shaolin, which should probably be their last record, at least for a while...
And what are they (read: "what is RZA") doing? He's toying with ideas like 1.) never letting anyone hear it, 2.) Giving the music away and letting the physical product be the time-capsule, one in a million worl of art (what happened to this idea btw?) and 3.) Letting people hear it long after everyone who cares is DEAD.

I think he's off his nut, and I find myself hoping the band formally calls it quits before he further sullies the legacy of the greatest hip hop group of all time.

I AM SO ANGRY!

noisereductions 03.05.2015 09:37 PM

I think a breakup is imminent.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.05.2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I think a breakup is imminent.


This presupposes that they were really still together to begin with, but the vibe is that they have been "broken up" for what seems like years now..

 

noisereductions 03.05.2015 10:32 PM

^I actually agree totally. In my mind they've been "broken up" since before Wu-Massacre.

Rob Instigator 03.06.2015 02:37 PM

Has Madonna ever "rapped?"
 

Severian 03.06.2015 05:40 PM

Is anyone else paying attention to the lyrical albums by Jonwayne? I'm talking about Rap Album One from 2013 and Cassette on Vinyl from 2014?

Motherfucker is a beast beat writer. Fat and white like Bronson, but as a lyricist I think he's better. He has kind of a dark backpacker vibe and prides himself on not using hooks in his beats or instrumentals, but I think he does. They're just micro-hooks... Like the "wh-wh-wh-wh-whyyy aren't you falling in love?" Sample from "Bound 2." You know... Poppy bits that could make up a chorus, but are instead chopped into percussive little accompaniments to the verse.

He's on Stones Throw, and I think he might be my favorite current artist on the label. He's really fucking skilled. I can't see him becoming a big star, but he seems fully capable of being the fat white Madlib if he keeps upping his game.
Soul and Jazz influences, lyrics are cynical and existential and way too clever.

I realy like this fat white bastard!
For a look at his purely instrumental material, check out the double album Oodles of Doodles. Listen to the other two (Rap Album, Cassette on Vinyl) for a real look at his skill.

(Hey look, I can see into the future! It's a year from now... March, 2016.. And nobody here has listened to him, so I make another flaccid attempt to get y'all interested, just like I did in 2014! Amazing! I have a supet power!!)

Severian 03.06.2015 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Has Madonna ever "rapped?"
 



No way, there is no way that's from this year. Fuckin come on.
No fucking way. Are you kidding me??? No.

I am NOT this temped to masturbate in a public parking lot after seeing a photo of Madonna in 2015. Please tell me that's from Erotica or some shit, when she was making me and every other teenage boy give themselves penile rug burn.

No joke, I have to wait to get out and get my groceries because this monster in my slacks is gonna guide traffic if I don't let it shrink down.

What the fuck?'

louder 03.06.2015 06:53 PM

http://smarturl.it/KendrickLamarAlbum

new King Kendrick at the end of the month. YES!

Severian 03.06.2015 08:52 PM

Oh boy... Kanye going up against not only Drake, but Kendrick La-motherfuckin'-mar as well. Fuck.

I knew this was going to happen.

Personally, I know already, based on the pre-release material by all three artists, that Kanye's really got the other two by the balls. He's producing on a crazy new level and he's rapping (get this) is on a par with Kendrick's.

Pitchfork got one thing right, Yeezy's never been sharper, faster or harder, and frankly I dont give a piss about anyone else right now.

That said, I know Kendrick is going to annihilate Kanye in the sales department. Drake may well do the same. But this is Kendrick's first album since his cultural break-thru and bar-raising major label debut. Even if the critics think it's luke warm, fucker is going to sell like crazy.

So Kanye's clearly going to have the best album, but I think Kendrick is the most dangerous motherfucker in rap. If anyone poses a threat to Yeezy's proverbial "Throne" (Jay-Z is just Hand of the King at this point), it's kendrick. So loyalty demands that I wish horrible sales figures on him. Let's hope they don't debut in the same week.

As for Drake, he's already released his best album yet this year. Views from the 6 is probably going to suck. But If you're reading This... Is ill.

Kanye V. Kendrick: DAWN OF JUSTICE.

God damn, new Kanye new kanye new Kanye new Kanye ne....

Severian 03.06.2015 09:08 PM

Someone else say stuff.

Anyone else think "6 Man" from If You're Reading This... is, like, the best Drake track ever? I did a double take at first thinking it was Weezy in the opening verse.

His face is still punchable, but that track is dark as hell.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.06.2015 10:17 PM

Sighs... im outro yo

rebeccagotcursedout 03.06.2015 11:07 PM

so when is the new Kayne supposed to come out?

the last new Kendrick song i heard was lame bullshit!! so the new album will be lame bullshit?

rebeccagotcursedout 03.06.2015 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Sighs... im outro yo


yeah, they seem to lose their minds sometimes and are a little obsessed.

Sev seems to have major mental symps

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.07.2015 02:25 AM

No, i get it i mean im a little obsessed with tupac and also an honest hater of kanye BUT y'all also know i try and share and contribute and talk about other artists aside from just the ones i am myopically focused on..

louder 03.07.2015 07:22 AM

Sev, i agree about "If You're Reading This" being Drake's best album/mixtape/project to date for sure..

louder 03.07.2015 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rebeccagotcursedout
so when is the new Kayne supposed to come out?

the last new Kendrick song i heard was lame bullshit!! so the new album will be lame bullshit?

March 23. no idea what song you've heard but "The Blacker the Berry" and the Untitled track performance on Colbert were insane. no doubt in my mind Kendrick is gonna drop another classic.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.08.2015 01:39 AM

Looking forward to buy that new Ghostface and pick up cappadona hook off from last year!) this week... i just literally ain't even had ten minutes to spare to go order it on amazon mp3 indeed there are like for or five records im goimg to finally get that have been on my list for like two months!

louder 03.08.2015 11:22 AM

that new Big Sean album has some nice songs. but mainly due to the features and production. Sean himself is still meh.

Severian 03.08.2015 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
that new Big Sean album has some nice songs. but mainly due to the features and production. Sean himself is still meh.



Yup, pretty much. I'm rooting for him, because I know he's a good kid... But usually when rappers release 3 fairly sucky albums in a row, they don't get many more opportunities. It seems like the critics are concentrating on how Dark Sky is better than Hall of Fame which was better than Finally Famous, and that this ever so slight upward trend is enough to justify his existence.

Meanwhile Kanye's never released a song that isn't fucking brilliant in 11 goddamn years, and he still takes shit from half the country.

Yeah, I'm a bit mentally ill, I'll give you that.

noisereductions 03.08.2015 01:22 PM

I tend to think Sean is great at doing a verse on someone else's song. But I'm never all that thrilled with his solo work.

rebeccagotcursedout 03.09.2015 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
March 23. no idea what song you've heard but "The Blacker the Berry" and the Untitled track performance on Colbert were insane. no doubt in my mind Kendrick is gonna drop another classic.


cuoo!! don't have time to come here much.

can't remember what Kendrick song but ill listen to that Colbert performance later tonight.

rebeccagotcursedout 03.09.2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
we did miss you son.


hello. im trying to undo my life so i come here again and fuck around wit you guys sometime.

Severian 03.10.2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rebeccagotcursedout
hello. im trying to undo my life so i come here again and fuck around wit you guys sometime.


You almost make it sound as though your absence has been due to some sudden life altering personal achievement or attainment of success, rather than to a good old fashioned perm ban. ;)

But by all means, stay. We just kind of stumble around and walk into each other when you're not around.

:)

Severian 03.10.2015 12:08 PM

Oh, check it:

Kicking off afternoon with this bad boy right here:
 


Anyone else? I'm going to have to withhold comment for the time being.

rebeccagotcursedout 03.10.2015 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
You almost make it sound as though your absence has been due to some sudden life altering personal achievement or attainment of success, rather than to a good old fashioned perm ban. ;)

But by all means, stay. We just kind of stumble around and walk into each other when you're not around.

:)


life is great. alive and well and not on drugs like everyone thinks. busy. just missing having time to be alone and listen to music. new or old. trying to make some sounds myself now. again.

... staying away from the internet by choice but it hasn't been hard considering my above post.

louder 03.10.2015 04:18 PM

from what i've gathered so far, the Kendrick album is rumored to be titled "To Pimp a Butterfly" and this is allegedly the album cover, or at least a part of the booklet:

 

h8kurdt 03.10.2015 05:05 PM

Awful, awful, AWFUL cover. If that's the cover then I'm gonna be judging the album by it.

noisereductions 03.10.2015 07:06 PM

haven't heard the CanOx yet, but will very soon.

Severian 03.10.2015 10:34 PM

That better not be the goddamn Kendrick cover. It looks like the nonsense cover of some UK hard bass dub producer's self-released single.

Also, it's dynamically similar to the "kitchen table" cover of good kidd, with similar angles and directed focus. It will look samey next to its predecessor on the shelf, and not in a good way, like Sacred Bones releases often look alike, for instance.

I don't think that's going to be the cover.
I also don't think To Pimp A Butterfly is going to be the title, because it's bogus. Kendrick's secret weapon is that he's hard as fuck beneath that dough-eyed exterior. His flows, even his more somber and mellow ones, could easily be turned into machine gun bangers with just a sped up meter. I think he needs to *not* become the peace-lily flower child behind songs like"i."

I think he needs to stay on his toes and keep a rough and rugged air about him. He's a mesmerizing rapper, and I want to hear an LP-version of his live show, which is almost superhuman in its intensity.

Yet another rapper that reminds me of Muhammad Ali. And not just because I have way too little to think about.

louder 03.11.2015 12:08 AM

Kendrick just confirmed what i posted on instagram: https://instagram.com/p/0EwnbSlecE/

louder 03.11.2015 06:38 AM

 

louder 03.11.2015 01:55 PM

y'all have no idea how excited i am!! at this moment i'm more excited for Kendrick than Kanye.

h8kurdt 03.11.2015 03:41 PM

Nope awful cover. All the shit stereotypes about rap music is pretty much in that cover.

I'm just hoping the album plays out alright.

Speaking of which what are peoples fav. rap album covers?

 


This ranks pretty high on my album covers.

louder 03.11.2015 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Nope awful cover. All the shit stereotypes about rap music is pretty much in that cover.

I'm just hoping the album plays out alright.

not sure how i feel about the cover yet, kinda gives me Odd Future vibes for some reason but whatever, it's just a cover. the music itself is gonna be his best and most interesting effort.

louder 03.11.2015 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Nope awful cover. All the shit stereotypes about rap music is pretty much in that cover.

I'm just hoping the album plays out alright.

Speaking of which what are peoples fav. rap album covers?

 


This ranks pretty high on my album covers.

yeah this one, as well as Stankonia, Madvillainy, MM..FOOD, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Be, Acid Rap.. to name a few.


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