results start being released now

biden projected to win virginia (biden 54, sanders 24, bloomie 9, warren 8)

eta: also looks like north carolina

bernie won vermont obviously

“the media will underrate bernie sanders on super tuesday”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...super-tuesday/

$500 million doesn’t buy as much as it once did!



TEXAS

Republican turnout for an uncontested primary in Texas is dwarfing Democratic turnout for what will be one of the closest primaries of the night.

So Elizabeth dusts herself off, picks up the pieces and will somehow convince the delusional that she is still a contender after losing her home state?


in·cred·u·lous = (of a person or their manner) unwilling or unable to believe something

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

wtf is beauregard going on about?

SuperFreakJoe better enjoy the ride tonight......because MeToo is coming!!!

and besides what he’s going on about, more importantly: who the fuck cares?

Charlie Kirk:

Look at the results in Colorado tonight so far

Bernie Sanders—238,345
Mike Bloomberg—146,907
Joe Biden—147,562

Total for the three front runners: 532,814

Donald Trump—569,441

No one HAD to turn out for the incumbent

But he still outdid the top 3 Democrats

Incredible.

okay boomers, get a room

My takeaways:

1) The establishment rallied around Biden and it worked. He won states he didn't even campaign in! He's not going to get that sort of help in the general. Trump will completely destroy him like he did with Hillary and the exact same "Bernie divided the party" nonsense will be blamed. The DNC would rather let Trump win than have Bernie fundamentally change the balance of power within the party, that much is evident. You think a guy who can barely get his sentences out and is long past his prime will beat Trump? Cause that ain't happening.

2) Warren staying in the race is absolutely inexcusable. She split Bernie's vote in multiple states and handed it to Biden. If she cares one iota about getting progressives in power then she would have dropped out as soon as the moderates started consolidating. But she doesn't, she only cares about herself. 200k votes for her in Texas and she wasn't even viable. 200k progressive votes thrown in the dumpster and set alight. She is a phony and is a Ralph Nader.

3) Voter suppression in Texas and California in mostly poor communities. People waiting in line to vote for 7 hours. Disgusting. They really fucking don't want Bernie as the nominee. If you need to pull out that many tricks to get Joe Biden in the lead then maybe he's just a shitty candidate that no one is enthusiastic for.

4) Bloomberg lol

Smokin Joe.

Dementia Joe

well, turns out the man has been fighting a stutter all his life. i had no idea.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...rofile/602401/

and he’s way more lucid and competent than the dotard.

he’s also human, not a bloated sociopath.

as for the establishment etc— well, this is how people organize themselves, no? a political party is an organization. if they can’t organize themselves, then what are they?

seems to me you’re the one who would rather see trump win over a moderate. me, i want trump sent back to hell by whatever means.

what you’ve been missing all along is the ideological bent of mainstream america. you watch from far away and read the news and see tv programs but don’t talk to a bus driver or people at the supermarket. this is a fairly conservative country, overall. do i like this? no, but it is how it is.

and the revolutionary youth that’s supposed to turn out in great numbers never turns out. am i happy about this? fuck the hell no. but again it is what it is. i can’t force the little fuckers to mobilize, or show up in time.


i’ve said this before, but i don’t think that her supporters will translate magically into bernie supporters. otherwise they would have been there already. some will go to bernie no doubt, others will go to biden. warren has been a democrat for a long time, bernie is only using the party system for his candidacy, which is perfectly fair and legal, but voters choose according to a myriad factors and party loyalty is one of them. progressive longtime democrats might support one of their own rather than an outsider.


i don’t know man, there was early voting. why people choose to stand in line to the last minute i’ll never understand. i have not looked at these reports yet but i’m sure they will come out soon and get discussed to death.

of course the republicans and russian trolls will want to exploit whatever “controversy” can be made up from this. so i’m going to start with a skeptical stance and go from there. i’m not going to be the ally of my gravediggers.

anyway, uncle joe may not be the greatest politician, but he’s a good man who will bring decency back to the presidency and can help democrats keep the house and recapture the senate, and nominate judges, and so forth.

polls have been showing voters are really wanting to dump trump, and if they can do it without a socialist revolution and government takeover of the health sector they will, because again, this is a fairly conservative country. e.g.: virginia. i used to live there, i was surprised when they went blue for obama, and im glad they’ve turned blue lately, but democratic socialism is a bridge too far for those dc suburbs.


yeah when people said he’d buy the election i responded he can only buy commercials. he’s the new coke.

i assume he’ll put his billions to work for biden now because his stated concern is to get rid of the disgrace in the white house.

okay igor thanks for your input

Man, I was starting to look out graphs and stats that I've seen to address you point by point but don't have much time today soz.

Biden forgets what he's saying mid-sentence. He forgets what state he's even in. His record is atrocious and looks terrible in the modern day. He will crumble under scrutiny and Trump will look better by comparison. You say to look at mainstream America yet it seems your bias against Trump is blinding you to the fact that he is a formidable opponent and someone Biden is not equipped to deal with. It's the exact same shit I heard about Hillary vs. Trump and then everyone was like "how could this happen??" afterwards. "At least I'm not the other guy" didn't work last time and it won't work this time.

And how will he help recapture the house and senate when he is the default candidate with little enthusiasm? Obama lost 1000 house seats throughout his 8 years.

Also there's a list of occupations and which candidate they majorly support. Bus drivers, retail workers and other low income jobs all support Bernie. Biden's occupation support is much more affluent and finance related.

They didn't early vote because they had the expectation of going to the polls on the day they're supposed to vote and didn't expect massive issues. You're making excuses. Majority white neighbourhoods in Texas had no issue voting, "smooth sailing" one said. It's wrong and it's the party's fault.

And Bloomberg couldn't give a shit whether Trump wins or loses. It doesn't effect him at all. He doesn't want Bernie to win and be wealth tax'd, that's all it is.

Also also, graphs from 2016 -> 2020 primaries show a not insignificant chunk of Bernie's support went to Warren. I'm seeing some Warren surrogates switch to Bernie now. It's on her.

Saying voter suppression is a secret method to deny Sanders the nom is one of the stupidest fucking things I’ve read in some time. Keep digging into wherever in the hell you're getting that stuff from, it is Onion worthy

So how fucked are we?

Look at Biden as the Juan Carlos transition from Generalissimo Francisco Trimp.

haaahaaahaahaaaaa!

great historical reference there

re: warren surrogates, i don’t see castro going to bernie, though maybe it could happen

oh! bloomie just endorsed biden

originally came here to post this link of castro talking about warren’s moderate appeal

https://www.msnbc.com/hallie-jackson...ie-79886917859

TRUMP Tweet Beat You To It


Wow! If Elizabeth Warren wasn’t in the race, Bernie Sanders would have EASILY won Massachusetts, Minnesota and Texas, not to mention various other states. Our modern day Pocahontas won’t go down in history as a winner, but she may very well go down as the all time great SPOILER!

concern trolling from psychopathic bastards and his meme-brained acolytes

q.e.d.

You're clueless about how power works you bootlicking moron. It's the oldest trick in the book.

7 hour wait times in places with heavy Sanders support, seems totally normal. Go suck some establishment dick some more and I'll see you in November when Trump beats Biden and you're all whining about it like I haven't been telling you this whole time.

Libs downplay the very serious sleight of hand role of voter suppression in Western politics and then scream to the heavens that every other consequence is due to RUSSIA!! Mindless goo for brains, I swear ta god.

what i've been reading to follow up on what you mentioned is that TEXAS has closed 750 polling places since 2012, mostly located, yes, in minority and low income areas.

that's TEXAS, which is a state run by republicans, not the democratic party.

and echo park isn't exactly a proletarian enclave



this berniebro attitude here is *exactly* why many moderates are wary of embracing bernie and probably one reason warren turned away from him and decried the behavior of his supporters more than once. and also one reason many eventual warren ship-jumpers won't join the bernie flotilla.

Oh shut up with that shite, fed up of you repeating it whenever I stray from CiViLiTy and DeCeNcY. ilduclo can say stupid shit all day but I'm the problem as soon as I respond. He's a moron, plain and simple. He has zero understanding of how politics works and it's transparent. I disagree with you constantly and I don't think you're a moron. Telling it how I see it.

Also that stuff about Warren is total bullshit. She attacks his supporters cause she can't attack his policies. She wants his spot (or at least, she did). And if Warren supporters want M4A and all that stuff but won't vote for a progressive cuz BERNIE BROS then they're morons too and were never really entrenched in their beliefs in the first place. Stop your condescending nonsense, tut tutting people won't do shit.

If the attitude of this board in any way represents the American consensus like keeps getting suggested to me then Trump is going to win again cause some of you just DON'T GET IT. #MAGA2020 and all that. Every establishment politician and media empire was wrong in 2016, I can tell you they are wrong this time too. Free of charge.

Thank god Biden has brought some decency and civility back to the White House while he continues to drone strike the Middle East and blow up innocent women and children. Fuck off.

im just telling you what i see every day.

the overly aggro "my way or the highway" bernie supporter attitude has been used against bernie since the start of his campaign. since before, even.

when you react like that it just feeds the narrative and the stereotype.

and article i read this morning labeled his supporters "the revolutionary guard". and right or wrong, that just drives people away from him.

Speaking of, we had an editorial cartoon the other day about Bernie lovin Fidel...

lol you know i meant julián.

"Bernie loving Fidel" and I'm getting told off for telling this idiot that he's an idiot? Clearly your brain turns to useless mush when you listen to too many MSNBC talking heads.

some results, final or close to final:

alabammy 99% count
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Joe Biden 286,067 63.2 % 24
Bernie Sanders 74,867 16.6 3
Michael Bloomberg 52,750 11.7 0
Elizabeth Warren 25,847 5.7 0
Michael Bennet 2,250 0.5 0

minnehaha 99%
Joe Biden 287,548 38.6 % 20
Bernie Sanders 222,616 29.9 11
Elizabeth Warren 114,787 15.4 0
Michael Bloomberg 62,138 8.3 0
Amy Klobuchar 41,752 5.6 0
Pete Buttigieg 7,666 1.0 0

n.c. 100% count
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Joe Biden 568,578 43.0 % 35
Bernie Sanders 318,772 24.1 15
Michael Bloomberg 171,734 13.0 0
Elizabeth Warren 138,502 10.5 0
Pete Buttigieg 43,368 3.3 0
Amy Klobuchar 30,641 2.3 0
Tom Steyer 10,715 0.8 0

tennessee 100%
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Joe Biden 215,005 41.7 % 21
Bernie Sanders 128,508 24.9 10
Michael Bloomberg 79,637 15.5 0
Elizabeth Warren 53,545 10.4 0
Pete Buttigieg 17,051 3.3 0
Amy Klobuchar 10,644 2.1 0

Texas 99.5% count
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Biden 707,476 33.7 % 20
Sanders 627,860 29.9 20
Bloomberg 312,825 14.9 0
Warren 237,669 11.3 0
Buttigieg 84,766 4.0 0

vermont 100%
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Bernie Sanders 79,915 50.7 % 8
Joe Biden 34,663 22.0 4
Elizabeth Warren 19,787 12.6 0
Michael Bloomberg 14,822 9.4 0
Pete Buttigieg 3,709 2.4 0

virginia 100%
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Joe Biden 705,339 53.3 % 49
Bernie Sanders 306,072 23.1 19
Elizabeth Warren 142,559 10.8 1
Michael Bloomberg 127,782 9.7 0

keep an eye on the delegate counts

since warren basically got no delegates she sent an email to staffers about taking time to consider her future

that means she’ll drop out

interesting to see what will follow


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and moscow mitch will redouble biden “investigations” of course

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stats showing the under-30 crowd not showing up to vote

older millennials (30+) going against bernie.

of course. He's my choice for veep (I hope Joe agrees). Ms Ild thinks he's just as cute as can be, he's a red diaper baby from TX so he's been thoroughly investigated by Repubs there.

This equation of Bernie-support with poverty doesn't add up for me. My work has recently lead to me spending more time in the US - specifically Miami and Atlanta. Those who are most overtly pro-Bernie that I've encountered (mainly people I work with) are overwhelmingly quite comfortably off, while the sense I get from those far lower down the scale is that they fucking LOVE Biden - when they'e not simply Trump supporters. In Atlanta anyway. Miami is its own political ecosystem. Either way, look at the states that Bernie was predicted to do well in. They're relatively wealthy.