I remember Mike Huckabee said Jay "pimped" Beyoncé. But that's Mike Huckabee, world famous dunce and Fox News nut gobbler.

I broke my rule and finally watched the video for "FADE" and even though it was stupid and gross at times, it was an undeniably powerful video for what is probably the year's most powerful song.

Its dumbness is deliberate, as it pulls very clearly from Flashdance, which is of cours famously and objectively stupid and absurd. There's a moment of porno shot that I truly don't get. But it ends on a seriously unsettling note that works despite being kinda dumb at first sight. It's disturbing.

The video's equation is something like: Flashdance + "Single Ladies" / "Thriller."

Hey wow! New Mos Def (now Yasiin Bey... ugh) album out Dec. 9!!!

http://www.spin.com/2016/11/yasiin-b...ber-99th-album

Holy shit guys! This is freaking cool as hell, is it not? The Ecstatic was *glorious* ... wonder wtf to expect.

It's called December 99

whatever. you guys just like to jack each other with excitement against anyone with a non-pitchfork mind.

can't wait till years later when descendants dissolve your favorites and calls ya'll and them out as bandwagon shit eating assholes.

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who's he? and why don't he get his own influences instead of robbing the classics and fucking around with bullshit pop music?

I don't really have a good feeling about this album. Yeah, The Ecstatic was great but The New Danger and True Magic..

mos def can eat an asshole out. fuck that dude.

To be honest, even though Mos was my favorite solo rapper for a while, I don't even really remember those albums. I remember pitchfork didn't like them. But I think at least the New Danger has seen a bit of a resurgence in the past few years.

I know Black on Both Sides was definitive thoigh. And I know Mos is talented, with a great ear. He's not the kind of artist I'd expect to be consistent. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. This is likely going to be his last album, so hopefully no suckassness.

Don't even start. If you have ever had any interest in hip-hop at all, I know you know Black Star is genius, and Black on Both Sides is great.

As D.I. Hardy would say on Broadchurch, "What is the point of you, Greezy?"

Rolling Stone is full of shit. They gave Lemonade album of the year.. now Lemonade is a quality pop album, but it's far from that and pales in comparsion to Solange's album.

They also ranked The Rolling Stones album which isn't even out yet like 6th or 7th in their list, and gave it a write up that reads like it was pre-written.

Green Day were also in the top 20. Yet Common and Anderson .Paak didn't even make it to the list..

Kanye?

I can see how Lemonade would be an "Album of the Year" choice, especially for a mag like Rolling Stone. It was a pretty big deal, and it's quite good. Moreover, it is probably more associated with Black Lives Matter than any other album, so it has a cultural relevance to it that can't be argued with. I get it. I don't agree. It's not the best album of the year. But I get it.

It wasn't on the list either? Damn.

The 1975's "I Like It When You Sleep For You Are So Beautiful Yet So Unaware Of It" is Album of the Year according to NME (Life of Pablo comes second). I've never heard this album. Is it really that good or are NME just trapped inside their britpop/garage rock bubble?

http://www.nme.com/list/nme-best-albums-2016-1869261

Huh? No... I was asking. I don't have the issue with the list in it yet (yeah, I get Rolling Stone, but rarely read it... usually for the politics when I do.)

AAAAAnyway... The Life of Pablo was TOTALLY on the list and in the top 10. No. 8
to be specific. I wouldn't expect RS to have the objectivity or the ear to rank it at the top, but surely ... SURELY it belongs in the top 5. It was their best reviewed album of the year until Lemonade.

It is the biggest album of the year that is associated with the Black Lives Matter movement, though it just rides TPAB's coattails.

Solange's album is humble but better in every way.

Oh I see.

Anyhoo, listen... those idiots put Metallica, the Monkees (the fucking MONKEES), the 1975 and motherfucking Sting on that list, in addition to the aforementioned Green Day. I wouldn't get too upset about it.

The fact that they also included Death Grips (whose album I don't even think I've heard) and Parquet Courts and Young Thug means they're obviously pulling a few indie and underground albums out of their ass — as well as country and Elton John — to look well rounded. In this day and age, if your personal list contains albums not included on the "big ones" it's a sign that you are actually paying attention and listening to stuff. Rolling Stone made an equal opportunity list meant for the average joe.

I mean, fuck.. they didn't even put We Got it From Here.. in the top 25 (!?!!??!) They COMPLETELY missed several brilliant records so they could have albums that aren't even out yet and a "healthy representation" of music on their list. They're playing it safe.

Personally I don't think Malibu is as good as Yes, Lawd!, but I definitely think it belongs on any list that's trying to accurately represent who made waves in 2016. Anderson .Paak worked his Fucking ass off for two solid years and he deserves the recognition. I expect at least one of the big mags (SPIN or maybe the Guardian's entertainment staff) will include at least one of his albums.
But fair waning, Pitchfork probably will not. They tend to only include 8.0+ albums on their lists, which are little more than clockbait at this point. For example, their "best video of the year" was ALL OF THE LEMONADE VIDEOS. Jesus, what's the point?

JEFFERY being 10th was hilarious to me. I really enjoyed that album. But you know.. it's Young Thug. Every project he puts out, even the good ones, tends to get stale real quick.

It's barely a top 10 HIP HOP album of 2016.

JEFFERY was a pleasant surprise but it's not on the same level as the albums by Tribe, Kanye, Common, Chance, Danny Brown, Isaiah, Schoolboy, Kendrick..

Whoah, whoah... what? How? In what ways are they similar? Not trying to be a dick, just... wow. Unexpected.

Yes, there's a cultural connection, and both albums are products of a similar era, but do you really think Lemonade's concept has anything to do with TPAB's? Moreover, do you really think Beyoncé needs to ride anyone's coattails?

You should look back to when this album first dropped, and how geeked we were about it, the both of us. I haven't listened to it in a while, but "All Night" is still one of my favorite songs of the year, and I think the album as a whole is extremely good... though I could still do without Jack White Zepping out on the thing. His contributions to the Tribe album were much more palatable.


I agree. It's more sonically diverse and more intricate and interesting. But it's also less populace-friendly and had a much smaller impact on music and culture. If music was just about music, the world would see that Solange's album is better. But it's not just music, it's spectacle.

On the bright side, at least they didn't give it to Drake. Lol. He'll probably win another Grammy though.

Can't believe they didn't include Nicolas Jaar's SIRENS. Fuckwits.

I'm not talking about the actual music and content of the album. I'm talking about the way it was marketed, as an album that supports the whole Black Lives Matter movement. That wouldn't've happened without Black Messiah and TPAB paving the way..

Bey's team have spent the last few years trying to improve her image as an artist so she can be taken more seriously. And it works for them.

True.

It is sad that people have to re-iterate that Black lives matter.

It is sad that idiots think affirming the humanity of a black life somehow diminishes the humanity of their perceived race's life.

It is sad that pigs treat non-whites like trash.

It is sad that black pigs have to follow along and pretend they are cool with it all to keep their jobs.

The new Tribe is DOPE. Love it.

Hey Rob! Where have you been? ;)

(Get it? 'Cause you've been kind of weird and a bit insufferable lately and this post is nice and smart and makes sense?)

Sorry. Just busting your balls. Not trying to be an actual prick.
You are SO right about the new Tribe. It is just fucking awesome. Weirdly, the Rolling Stone piece in their AOTY article said it didn't sound anything like classic Tribe, but I disagree. I think it sounds totally Tribe-like, just not in a nostalgic or a resting-on-laurels kind of way.

when I hear of an old group getting together to make a new album I want to hear what sounds like a logical progression from what they used to create.

Tribe did that, and it took a LOT of work. I hate when reunions create a boring album full of what sound like toss-offs and unreleased B-sides of their work from decades before (Pixies???? looking your way, fat francis!)

So Kanye West is definitely in a psych ward somewhere. I guess his doctor told TMZ (barf!) that he was suffering from a "temporary psychosis" due to lack of sleep and nutrition.

That means he's not just "hospitalized for exhaustion," (that's not actually a thing... not a thing people spend a week in the hospital for anyway), but most likely under someone else's orders — doctor, family member — to be where he is, so we can safely assume he's getting a lot of Valium and maybe Thorazine.


There are some downright mean little "meme wisdom" accusations being thrown around on social media. One of them shows a pic of Kanye and a pic of Lemmy from Motörhead and says something like "so 39 year old kanye west canceled his tour after quitting a show after four songs and checked himself into the hospital, while Lemmy battled brain tumours and (other stuff) and (other stuff) and still played until his last show at age 70. Who's the 'greatest artist alive?'"

Fuck that shit. It doesn't even make any sense. It's not even an analagous situation. Also, by that logic everyone who has ever ended or even PAUSED their recoerding/touring activity before DEATH is somehow not doing right by the world. You can throw the Beatles, Kurt Cobain, Kate Bush, Michael Jackson, Prince, and even fucking Lemmy into that pile if that's the line of reasoning your using.

People are also shouting "cocaine! Meth!" which is equally absurd as there is no evidence of this. It's insulting to anyone struggling with a mental health issue, and it also makes no sense in the context of the pop culture argument (Lemmy used shit tons of speed, and he's apparently the golden standard.)

I urge you to call out any friends you have who may be posting bullsht like this and to alert them to the implications of their "argument" while also encouraging everyone you know to STOP. USING. MEMES. as they represent the death of knowledge, and they are chief dissemination device of dipshit asswad morons.

For what it's worth, I saw Kanye not not two months ago and he carried a 2-hour show by himself with no opening act and nobody else on stage. Everyone is getting their money back for the cancelled shows.

Chance just cancelled a tour too, but nobody's calling him a bitch about it.

I fucking hate people.

I totally agree. G!BE did the same thing, only the result was way better than with the Pixies. Their last two albums were just fine — especially the first — but they both sounded like B-sides from Lift Yr Skinny Fists... which is not bad, but, y'know, we already have that album, so who the fuck needs more of the same?

As I've said, Tribe is now up there with Portishead on the "return" album hierarchy. P-head's Third is still the best reunion/extended hiatus-ending album ... ever, I think. But Tribe has done it, and it's fucking glorious.

honestly, I hope Kanye gets better.

There are ussually two likely reasons for agents and handlers to describe a star's hospitalization as being the result of "exhaustion/dehydration"
1. drug abuse, and rehab is needed without the stigma of the drug use getting out
2. plastic surgery, hair pulgs etc. which are gotten and recovered from while the star appears to be hospitalized for something else. They will then ask for "privacy" and the star will recuperate at home without media bothering them. Joe Buck did this as he was addicted to hair-plug surgery. he actually did it so much he gave himself a near-fatal viral infection. horrible. Lost of Hollywood stars do this trick to hide their surgery and recovery.

There is also a "fanciful" reason for stars who are "hospitalized" for exhaustion/dehydration...
1. MKUltra reprogramming. According to a lot of the "literature" on this subject, both the Kardashian's dad (the attorney who quit on OJ during trial because OJ was obviously involved in the murder of his ex and her lover, and died of "cancer" shortly after), and Kim herself are rumopred to be MKUltra trained. The Kardashains are supposedly trained as Beta Kittens, sex slaves with compartmentalized memories allowing them to be used as super secret couriers and sex slaves. Th rumor-mill is that Kanye has been too "free" with his mind and thoughts and it was necessary for him to be re-programmed.

we shall see how it all shakes out. Honestly though, I hope he is OK.

Chance cancelled a tour because no one gave a fuck? hahahahhaha


It makes me laugh that the main thread of "problems with me" is Chance complaining about a label trying to keep him down. hahahahah 1st world problems. senator's son problems....

BTW, people with mental illnesses/childhood abuse and trauma are EXACTLY the type that are picked early on to suffer MKultra programming.

Hmm..

Well, I've spent a lot of my life studying this kind of thing, and I'm not saying I'm an expert, but there's definitely stuff you're not accounting for. You're probably not accounting for it because you're not aware of it, as a non-fan, but...

People who are on psychiatric medications, whether warranted by a genuine diagnosis are more likely to be hospitalized at some point. Just being on SSRIs or benzodiazepines or antipsychotics puts an individual at a higher risk of experiencing symptoms associated with psychiatric disorders.

Kanye's on Anti-depressants, by his own admission, and possibly Xanax and other meds, possibly for BPD.

My stepfather has bi-polar. He finds himself in the hospital once every few years just for medication evaluations and adjustments. Being on improperly calculated doses of seratonin manipulating drugs can cause "seratonin syndrome" which can be debilitating. And people with BPD or severe mental health issues often have narcolepsy and/or insomnia either as a result of their condition or the medications they take for it.

In other words, there's a very real possibility he is experiencing exactly what the doctor described. Happens to people every day.

But yeah, calling it exhaustion is not really legit. Though in fairness, the doc did not say that. The doc said "temporary psychosis" which doesn't have a very PR-friendly ring to it.

Wait?!?! I didn't even know. really? holy shit that's him?!?!

oh, ok. that's cool. I remember now. or im I thinking of Black Sheep? yeah, totally! that dude looks just like him. nevermind. Black Star who?

my mind boggles.

dis dude just busted out some Joe Buck with no cause or reason. who da fuck is Joe Buck? and this MKUltra is crazier than my post.

you missed the point he was trying to make by miles while going about yr family history and such. bi-poplar is real. you might be suffering from it Sev considering yr taste in hip hop sometimes.

im glad im free range here as a drunk to say whatever but, some of you motherfuckers are straight up bi.

I think Kanye is in the hospital because he realized how much he's been an idiot and it devastated his ego. lack of sleep and dehydration are symptoms of megalomania.

that last rant he gave is retardo ADD too the extreme. he's paranoid about some n w o jay z radio thing that's been built into his mind because of his own ego raps. Kanye is an ignorant idiot to the extreme. not only that, he's married to a fucking kardashian for thinking with his fucking dick for a gypsy bitch that wasn't really the porn star he thought she was. his beautiful dark fantasy has come true....a lie. he would have been better off with some dick suck off hood rat or some gold digging white women.

Wait.. Kanye is an MKUltra slave? Kim is a gypsy? What is going on here? :confused:

^^you got me man.

im just drunk and going along with it all. I haven't a clue about nothing. having a good time. I listen to Thin Lizzy for god's sake. the floor is on the ceiling for me

EDIT: I think you're trying to be insulting, Rob. I didn't read that crazy MKultra shit carefully enough the first go around. Then I did, and now I feel like you're trolling.
I guess fuck you if that's the case. (???)

Pepper_green, fuck you too. Also, *stepfather* ... not family history. Why am I even bothering? We all know you just say nonsense.

You guys are being dicks. Do I need to call someone fat or string a bunch of drunken words together for that to hit home with you, or do you think y'all are good? DICKS. And for what?