Speaking of gangsta azz movies watching Menace II Society, this is the best of the 90s "gangsta" movies because it didn't try to be hopeful, it was a caricaturization but sadly it is almost a "based on a true story" for the more extreme elements of late 80s early 90s gang related life.

I prefer Don't be a menace.

Maybe I spent too much of my youth hanging out with gangstaz, dealerz, and car thievez.. come to think of it I did... like pac said, "I only hang out with the criminals and drug dealers, I love ninjaz cuz we comin from the same place."

Wow yeah, Menace II Society, nostalgia for another time. Remember my chavy wigga sister watching that and Friday, seemingly on rotation. She even got the soundtrack album (and she never bought albums) just for that MC Eiht song at the end. Played it constantly. Good times. I have such good memories of that movie I don't wanna see again, in case I start finding things I don't like about it.

hell yes. carnitas + steak then.

and here something cool, just posted up 2 days ago i found reposted on sploid:

http://vimeo.com/112129153

Watch it, you wont be disappointed. Its better than you remembered. Of course it got me kinda depressed remembering all the drama I had.in the 90s for keeping such bad.company. of course I also got nostalgic for all the fucking fun I had knuckleheading around getting.caught up in various degrees of crimes and dumbshit with my homiez

oh, and mike nichols died

what a classic song that is

Absolutely brilliant, and in its way Kubrick-esque - in the sense of Kubrick that I like.

Been thinking about Gasper Noe's apparent obsession with him. He seems to draw out his good side too.

He always made intelligent films for adults that were actually about something. Looking at his filmography, I'm shocked to see he never made a shitty movie. Quite an accomplishment.

After the Kubrick discussion it's worth noting there's nothing especially technically stunning in a Nichols film. I mean, he didn't have a unique style, and I can't think of too many striking images from his films on par with, say, blood pouring from an elevator. But apparently there are more important aspects of good direction because, like I said, none of his films sucked.

i think you like filmed theatre more than film, which is fine if that's what you like; and nichols was a fine actor and theatre director, but honestly i looked up his filmography and while there are gems (the graduate, who's afraid of virginia woolf) he also made some shit. (i haven't seen catch 22 so i can't talk about that which could be a gem i don't know).

looking at his filmography, i once tried watching "postcards from the edge" and couldn't get past the first insufferable 10 minutes; "closer' was a disappointment (natalie portman as a stripper and what was it about?), "charlie wilson's war" was okay but mostly because it was a sorkin screenplay, "the birdcage" was a direct copy of a much better (funnier, earlier, braver) french film, "working girl" was fun but very forgettable. i guess i could say the same about a lot of other movies he made. i remember people talking about "wolf" when it came out but i don't hear anyone talking about it today. i just also realized i've seen "primary colors" which was like a funny tv show.

not trying to shit on a man who's not even yet buried, but come on, don't use him to throw shade on kubrick.

yeah, plus Charlie Wilson was just a really awful story. And, he was married to Diane Sawyer, how the hell does one do that:eek:

Wow. You guys are fucking evil. No wonder you enjoy soulless films. ;)

YES.

I thought Charlie Wilson was a better movie than Argo.

Mike Nichols made a lot of films that bored me shitless.

I copied all your comments and posted them on his daughter's Facebook page.

I wasn't really talking about the quality of the movie Charlie Wilson, more actually about how repulsive the story was

I hate the whole filmed theatre argument. Nichols was great at directing actors for the movies, which isn't the same as directing them for the stage. He had the intelligence to know how to use the medium to tell the story he wanted to tell, the way he felt it needed to be told, and had enough confidence in his vision and ability not to let the medium become an unnecessary distraction.

when i mentioned his death i was hoping we'd talk about the merits of mike nichols instead of engaging in a "nichols vs. kubrick" cock contest. of course i took the bait-- i always do. which caused me to be unfair to make a point.

"the graduate" was one of the best things i had ever seen when i saw it. in retrospect it seems a monument to boomer illusions, but i still think of it as a landmark film.