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The Soup Nazi 04.17.2018 06:26 PM

I imagine Gorsuch is a "so-called judge" now. :D

tesla69 04.17.2018 07:48 PM

https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/04/1...-hrc-favorite/

you can't make this stuff up.

well the shithead Soup Nazi would, he's fully deranged and corporatized.

!@#$%! 04.17.2018 08:25 PM

SOROASTRIANS

let the lollercoaster begin

tesla69 04.18.2018 06:00 AM

"Respect for the police tends towards zero with these clans," said Arnold Plickert, head of the GdP police union in NRW. "These people live in their own parallel society and have no regard for the German constitutional state."



Its what you want in the USA

ilduclo 04.18.2018 08:02 AM

Manne Goresuck

Skuj 04.20.2018 12:34 PM

Two things baffle me today:

1. What do Dems hope to gain with this lawsuit?

2. What did GOP hope to gain with Comey memos? Surely the opposite has happened?

!@#$%! 04.20.2018 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
Two things baffle me today:

1. What do Dems hope to gain with this lawsuit?



just scanning headlines i’ll assume keeping trumpo from squashing it all with mueller

i.e., discovery

esp. now with ghouliani in the mix

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

ilduclo 04.21.2018 02:18 PM

just keep on with the both sides bullshit and see where it gets. Only one post and this is it? Are you a Russian botfly?

 

Skuj 04.22.2018 01:36 AM

Wow!! It's happening!! In this thread!!

But I thought the Russians were so much smarter than this. So much less obvious.

I'm not impressed, Putin.

Bytor Peltor 04.22.2018 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
But I thought the Russians were so much smarter than this. So much less obvious.

I'm not impressed, Putin.


Russia might be smarter than anyone thought!!!

A) NO evidence of collusion between Russia and Trump campaign.

B) IF collusion did occur, IT’s NOT ILLEGAL

C) Special Counsels are appointed to persu KNOWN CRIMES and NOT to go seeking after “possible” crimes......technically, seeking crimes is a violation of Special Counsel laws.

......so much freaking wasted time!

ilduclo 04.22.2018 02:38 PM

wow, only 2 posts and already on my ignore list. It took a lot for Peltor and Tesla and symbols to get there ;)

just really hard to believe the low level of honor among the high Trumpanzees

Flynn offers to sell out Gulen to Turkey, where he'd be sure to be executed

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41947451

now comes out Broidy does it, too, Chinese dissadent for sale

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/ell...sident-us-nyt/

!@#$%! 04.22.2018 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilduclo
wow, only 2 posts and already on my ignore list. It took a lot for Peltor and Tesla and symbols to get there ;)

oh me too?

haa haa haa haaa

that explains a lot!

fine then, i won’t talk to my self— i’l tat your tit

- - -

mutually assured ignorance: engaged

The Soup Nazi 04.22.2018 05:09 PM

 


I went home with the waitress
The way I always do
How was I to know
She was with the Russians, too?

I was gambling in Havana
I took a little risk
Send lawyers, guns and money
Dad, get me out of this!

I'm the innocent bystander :rolleyes:
Somehow I got stuck
Between the rock and the hard place
And I'm down on my luck
And I'm down on my luck
And I'm down on my luck

Now I'm hiding in Honduras
I'm a desperate man
Send lawyers, guns and money
The shit has hit the fan

Send lawyers, guns and money
Huh!
Send lawyers, guns and money
Uhh!
Send lawyers, guns and money
Hyah!
Send lawyers, guns and money
Yeah!

tw2113 04.22.2018 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilduclo
wow, only 2 posts and already on my ignore list. It took a lot for Peltor and Tesla and symbols to get there ;)



Am I on there, or do I have a rest-of-weekend project to work on? JK.

Skuj 04.22.2018 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hairs missing
....I'm not a "Russian botfly....


My apologies.

You imitated one really well with that post.

Skuj 04.22.2018 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Russia might be smarter than anyone thought!!!

A) NO evidence of collusion between Russia and Trump campaign.

B) IF collusion did occur, IT’s NOT ILLEGAL

C) Special Counsels are appointed to persu KNOWN CRIMES and NOT to go seeking after “possible” crimes......technically, seeking crimes is a violation of Special Counsel laws.

......so much freaking wasted time!


You are KILLING me. Those are Trump/Fox talking points.

A) How about we wait for the Mueller Investigation to report before we come to that conclusion? (Trump shouts this everyday and yet Mueller has reported NOTHING yet.)

B) I cannot even know how to begin explaining why colluding with a foreign adversary during an election is wrong to people who see no problem with it.

C) Please read the Special Counsel tasking. Lawyers will intervene if Mueller is doing something illegal.

!@#$%! 04.22.2018 10:40 PM

kenneth starr spent his time chasing after cumstains and it was legal

Bytor Peltor 04.22.2018 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
You are KILLING me. Those are Trump/Fox talking points.

A) How about we wait for the Mueller Investigation to report before we come to that conclusion? (Trump shouts this everyday and yet Mueller has reported NOTHING yet.)

B) I cannot even know how to begin explaining why colluding with a foreign adversary during an election is wrong to people who see no problem with it.

C) Please read the Special Counsel tasking. Lawyers will intervene if Mueller is doing something illegal.



AA) thank you, Skuj, for confirming my A). My first two words were, “No Evidence.” After all this time and money, Mueller has produced NOTHING. It sounds like you think he eventually will......better grab some popcorn while you wait.

BB) ummmm, now you are confusing me......where did I say I didn’t have a problem with colluding? Not once have I said I’m in favor of, agree with or recommend it. However, collusion isn’t illegal and that’s the truth! Also, if collusion was illegal......why would Muller need to keep investigating???

CC) I totally agree and I believe that is what will end up happening!

Skuj 04.23.2018 02:26 AM

Wait...it is not illegal to collude with a foreign power that wishes to influence an election? Really? This whole Mueller thing is for nought?

As for the "no evidence" thing, please link me to something....ANYTHING that Mueller has said or reported yet. (I'm following the developments and eating popcorn.)

Trump keeps jumping to his conclusion, obviously skewered, and his minions hang on every tweet.

Let's wait for the fucking completion/report, shall we?

!@#$%! 04.23.2018 09:41 AM

i 100% disagree with bytor, but i respect him— he’s a good person

we just have completely different backgrounds, religions, ideologies, but i don’t think he’s evil nor a lunatic.

if we were both in congress, i’d have drinks with him at parties, go to his house to eat some cajun food— and then oppose his agenda at work.

these days congress doesn’t drink together so everybody is fucking polarized.

anyway there is this map of the u.s.a. that shows the different “nations” that compose us. yep. it’s a big country with a lot of people and not everybody is going to be the same. i’m gonna post it here in a minute.


http://www.businessinsider.com/the-1...-states-2015-7

 


per that map i’ve gone spanish caribbean -> tidewater -> dc/midlands border -> el norte -> far west (where i am now).

meanwhile i’m reading bytor as a deep south+new france blend.

because i moved to the far west i have changed in how i see the guns i used to abhor when i lived in dc (midlands/tidewater border with deep international blend)... (i think that’s why ilducio has removed me from his screen, lol, but we’ll never know.)

having grown up as a nomad, i can see the different cultures and i try to understand their particularities. some things we have in common, some are irreconcileable differences, but let’s not have hissy fits about them.

ilduclo 04.23.2018 09:53 AM

 


Botflies, also known as warble flies, heel flies and gadflies, are a family of flies technically known as Oestridae. Their larvae are internal parasites of mammals, some species growing in the host's flesh and others within the gut. The Dermatobia hominis is the only species of botfly known to parasitize humans routinely, though other species of flies cause myiasis in humans.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botfly

!@#$%! 04.25.2018 11:06 AM

the immigration business is a red herring. a scapegoat to focus the rage of the ignorant populace. i’m not saying *illegal* immigration is not a problem— it’s just not the problem they’re making it to be in order to capture the popular imagination. and the racist forces that go with it.

white male unemployment is not caused my immigration or the EPA. it has to do with globalization and automation (“china” and “robots”). but someone has to catch the rage.

it could be solved through job training and education but for republicans that would be “government meddling in the economy” so they left it to darwinian market forces and thus began the mass extinction.

the huckster in chief comes along and starts screaming of “coal” and other old technologies to make it look like he’s doing something. he’s just pandering. but it works because it appeals to anger and wishful thinking which are easier than improving education and job training for the industries of the PRESENT and the future.

pathetic really. pathetic.

get your degree at trump university.

here’s a little funny story to illustrate the imbecility: i know this navajo indian that was taken by his company to pennsylvania to work construction in a coalmine (there are coal mines here too so workers are moved around). he’s there working, come sunday he goes to the dairy queen asks for whatever, the employee there tells him THEY DON’T SERVE FUCKING MEXICANS. (because he looks “mexican”—indian face and with a moustache).

AYAYAYAYAY AMERICA. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON.

meanwhile, it looks like outdoor recreation (parks, wilderness, etc) is a bigger industry than mining. but hey, coal! because coal! ha ha ha ha. fucksakes. read some books, people. go to school.

evollove 04.25.2018 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i 100% disagree with bytor, but i respect him— he’s a good person

we just have completely different backgrounds, religions, ideologies, but i don’t think he’s evil nor a lunatic.


Well said. I've almost never agreed with him and yet he's never pissed me off.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think he'd ever be this person:

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
the employee there tells him THEY DON’T SERVE FUCKING MEXICANS.


Then again, I like tesla too. Sorry. But I do.

!@#$%! 04.25.2018 04:16 PM

does tesla serve “fucking mexicans”? i don’t know. swarthy utes and all.

!@#$%! 04.25.2018 04:43 PM

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insigh...on-create-jobs

tw2113 04.25.2018 07:19 PM

I am personally convinced that "illegals" aren't taking our jobs. I'm convinced they're taking jobs that white americans think they're too good for and don't even bother trying to fill.

The Soup Nazi 04.25.2018 07:41 PM

 

!@#$%! 04.26.2018 06:33 AM

this has always, for centuries, been a country of immigrants, and suddenly immigration is the #1 problem here? bullshit and hucksterism. pure fucking distraction.

tesla69 04.26.2018 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw2113
I am personally convinced that "illegals" aren't taking our jobs. I'm convinced they're taking jobs that white americans think they're too good for and don't even bother trying to fill.


Living in NYC I see they take the jobs of gentrification. After the banksters put the senior citizens out on the streets, the new immigrants are there to demolish the building and create noise and filth for years as the construction goes on. Americans generally don't like to take a job that puts 100's of senior citizens out on the street.

The assholes who make noise day after day in the buildings around me so the landlords can raise rents are immigrants and probably illegals.

Its a factual observation. Immigrants make my life worse! I don't enjoy this conclusion, but the facts don't lie.

ilduclo 04.26.2018 09:18 AM

Dr Ronny and the Daydrinkers

ilduclo 04.26.2018 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove

Then again, I like tesla too. Sorry. But I do.


he's got excellent taste in music, but the xenophobia and racism is pretty impossible to take for me, thus the ignore. I wish he'd get some help:confused:

!@#$%! 04.26.2018 11:05 AM

whataboutism and unending distractions

you didn't even read the whole article!

lol clickbait headlines

!@#$%! 04.26.2018 11:28 AM

borracho! nice cherrypicking

the UFW helped immigrants with their papers

it's right there in that source

Huerta disputes the criticism, pointing out that the UFW helped craft the 1986 amnesty agreement signed by former President Ronald Reagan that legalized the immigration status of nearly three million people.

“I can tell you as a founder of the union, we used to prepare immigration papers for people free of charge,” Huerta said. “What Cesar would say is, ‘if my mother crossed the picket line, I’d be against my mother.’ He was against people breaking strikes. He wasn’t against the undocumented.”

Rob Instigator 04.26.2018 11:31 AM

anything that makes life better for non-whites, and seemingly makes life less awesome for whites is put down like a rabid dog in Amerikkka.

ilduclo 04.26.2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
anything that makes life better for non-whites, and seemingly makes life less awesome for whites is put down like a rabid dog in Amerikkka.


the funny thing about that is that it isn't a zero sum game, like some of our uneducated people think. What is good for our less fortunate citizens is actually very good for all of us.:)

!@#$%! 04.26.2018 05:45 PM

#1 national policy concern: scapegoating the vulnerable

nice

Skuj 04.27.2018 10:22 AM

Well, that interview with Fox And Friends went really well, didn't it? (What does Trump's Chief Of Staff do again?) As a Trumphater, I am beside myself. I think he implicated himself in at least 4 things.

The whole immigration topic has taken a very ugly turn with this ignorant asshole occupying the Whitehouse. It will take decades to undo the damage caused.

!@#$%! 04.27.2018 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
Well, that interview with Fox And Friends went really well, didn't it? (What does Trump's Chief Of Staff do again?) As a Trumphater, I am beside myself. I think he implicated himself in at least 4 things.

The whole immigration topic has taken a very ugly turn with this ignorant asshole occupying the Whitehouse. It will take decades to undo the damage caused.

did not see (i gotta maintain psychological homeostasis) but the immigration bullshit repeats itself every time

when the refugees from vietnam settled in texas you know who fought them? the kkk lololol (ok, that’s a bitter laugh, but also one of satisfaction cuz the kkk lost).

the chinese who built the railroad also were abused as inhuman

the irish, treated like dogs

the italians in colorado you know why they love columbus day so much? cuz they were swarthier and treated like animals so they invented that to hang on to their pride

black immigrants from the “emancipated” south: chased away by jim crow, redlined in the north.

and speaking of columbus let’s not forget the extermination of indians—the USA is the immigrant that gets bouts of temporary insanity and thinks he’s “always been here.”

so this shit happens regularly.

this is (among other things) why ginsberg asked of america when will she be angelic

answer: not quite fucking yet

ilduclo 04.27.2018 04:43 PM

 

tesla69 04.27.2018 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
The whole immigration topic has taken a very ugly turn with this ignorant asshole occupying the Whitehouse. It will take decades to undo the damage caused.


Immigration policy has changed over time, the current was effected in 1965. I really don't know why some people are so eager to allow the rest of the world here. NPR/WNYC this morning seemed to suggest there is something wrong with wanting to be with your own 'people'. The snowflake attitude seems to be the world has some kind of right to come here. Migration is over. The world is blockchained.

You can't blame Trump for the DACA situation. He didn't kick the can down the road like Congress has been doing since it became apparent a porous border was a National Security Threat.

Immigration law is supposed to be legislated by Congress and executed by the President. Obama was working around a useless Congress with executive order. Since I objected to the use of EOs by President Bush Jr.; to be consistent I also objected to the use of EO's by President Obama and he seemed to get loose with them. And doing it that way provided for this exact situation.

2016 was the first election where public opinion was mostly shaped by algorithms pushing memes. It will only be getting worse because people seem to be depending MORE on their pods instead of removing the technocancers from their lives.

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