From The Huffington Post:

CIA TORTURER BREAKS DEMS
Game Over: Gina Haspel On Track To Be Confirmed As CIA Director
Democrats have lost the debate over torture after two Democratic senators said they plan to back Haspel’s confirmation.

More (just in case you're a wuss who equivalences the HP to Fox News):
https://news.google.com/gn/news/stor...us&hl=en&gl=US

Called it.



Europe, Iran say push to save nuclear deal off to good start

BRUSSELS (AP) — Major European powers and Tehran committed Tuesday to keep working together to save the Iran nuclear deal despite U.S. President Donald Trump's determination to kill it off. European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini and the foreign ministers of Britain, France and Germany said after talks with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif that salvage efforts focused on economic, business and banking issues could produce "practical solutions in the next few weeks"

Cool! Hey, we just “unvoted” our shithead Repub County Comissioner!

To the fiery pits with that indecent offal. :D

https://gizmodo.com/senate-votes-to-...til-1826054197

ha ha ha ha

i shit on ajit

he'll prolly try to get a job with trump, but then we can get them all the fuck gone in 2o2o;)

By all accounts today was yet another disastrous day for Team Trump, but The Dems don't seem to know this. Or am I just looking at the wrong places?

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING DEMS???

Ding-Dong The Wicked Witch Is Dead

I'm trying to square that CNN link with the stuff below it. Sorry....not seeing it.

"Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, serving as Acting Attorney General due to the recusal of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, authorized Mueller to investigate and prosecute "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump," as well as "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation" and any other matters within the scope of 28 CFR 600.4 – Jurisdiction.["

You cannot say that there is no evidence of collusion yet, because the fucking report isn't finished, is it?

Collusion with a foreign adversary to affect the election isn't illegal? Kill me now.

How can Mueller KNOW all this when he is starting an INVESTIGATION?

Fuck me.

So you're basically concluding that it's all A-OK now for Trump because despite any crimes committed he's above the law (and this is only if we take Giuliani at his credibility-shot word). Regardless of whether Trump will be indicted while in office, if the investigation is allowed to finish Mueller will present his final report to Congress. The House is then supposed to do its duty and draft the respective articles of impeachment, and after that a supermajority of the Senate is required to convict based on the articles.

Phrasing the link the way you did is not only the dumbest thing you've posted yet, but the most amoral.

you know it’s not a witch hunt, right? 17 indictments and 5 guilty pleas is not nothing

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-n...tion-one-year/

and yeah it would be up to the spineless congress to impeach or not

it says trump, not the supporters

the supporters come in different stripes and the huckster knows how to attract all those stripes

kkk and dixiecrats included

as well as innumerable suckers

and since we’re on to whataboutisms: not all george wallace supporters were segregationists i’m sure (they maybe just liked his stance on business and looked the other way on the rest).

not all this are that

therefore: nothing

The latest message from Demand Progress regarding Net Neutrality Title II:

I'm tellin' y'all's, Michael Avenatti is the only person out there who's refuting Trump's horseshit rationally, point-by-point.

torture enablers

entire Rethug Senate, plus

Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.), Mark Warner (D-Va.), Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) and Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.)

Munchkin even hugged her before the hearings

Not once did I say or imply or say that Trump is above the law.


After the

informant

wire tapping

report the Clinton’s created and gave to the FBI

There is Nothing-ZERO-No evidence that the Trump campaign
colluded with the Russians.




We have a Judge in Virginia cracking the judicial whip at the Department Of Justice demanding to know what the DOJ is up to because they are soooooo outside the scope of what they are authorized to investigate......me, myself and I consider what they are doing a Witch Hunt.

So two plus years and millions later and Muller is growing tired of being worked over by the judicial whip......the investigation is dead in the water and Muller is so desperate, his team makes contact with Rudy Giuliani to confirm that a sitting President cannot be indicted.

Didn’t Bill Clinton teach us that 20 years ago?

I could be 100% wrong, but I believe President Donald Trump will not be impeached and he will easily win re-election.

While I understand some in Congress are saying they have evidence that Russia wanted Trump to win over Hillary......and possibly Russia colluded with someone to help this happen:

A) you haven’t seen this evidence.

B) as I stated above, Nothing-ZERO-No evidence that the Trump campaign colluded.

of course we haven’t seen this evidence, this is why there’s an investigation— to find out if there’s any

because there are clear suspicions

and unlike other people in this thread i’m not affirming apriori that there’s any— i’m just saying let the investigation proceed and then we’ll see.

if at the end they find nothing then they find nothing.

but let’s not anybody count their chickens yet cuz that’s foolish.

For the upteenth time, the investigation is continuing, and Mueller has said nothing, so how the fuck do we KNOW that there is no evidence?

We are just going to keep doing this over and over again, aren't we?

@skuj —

this has been repeated to death lately— in this era of total partisanship people don’t just feel entitled to their opinions: they feel entitled to their own facts.

it’s not just bytor here—unless i’m misreading soupnazi, he’s categorically saying trump is positively a criminal who will be found guilty and the house is “supposed to do its duty,” as if this was a foregone conclusion and not a big unknown in the process of being investigated.

every partisan invents their own facts.

staying sane in this climate is hard as fuck.

Hate group leader appointed to U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom
Tony Perkins, head of anti-LGBT hate group Family Research Council (FRC), has been appointed to the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom. As head of the FRC, Perkins specializes in spreading false propaganda that demonizes the LGBT community and Muslims. His well-documented bigotry has no place in any government entity

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/..._source=EOACLK

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!

(Sorry. Reading about Perkins' new appointment for the first time.)

Frank Rich on Jerusalem ceremony for the Embassy:

This Jersualem “ceremony” will live on not as a positive step in Israeli history but as a shabby rogue’s gallery panorama of mobsterism at the top of both the American and Israeli governments.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...rror-show.html

Symbols, I admire your willingness to wait, it’s all we can do.

All I’m pointing out is so far there is no evidence that the Trump campaign colluded.

Evidently Congress has information that Russia colluded with someone?? Guess what, they probably did.

The question is, who???

President Obama

Hillary Clinton or her campaign

Anyone else??????

All we know so far is there is not one single shred of evidence linking President Trump or his campaign.

****BREAKING NEWS****

Once Congress reveals who colluded—GUESS WHAT—there is no evidence that it had any impact on the election or that Donald Trump won because of it.

Last but not least, as I’ve stated previously in this thread......from my meager understanding of the law......colluding isn’t a crime.

Everyone have a great weekend!

And so it goes....on and on and on and on.....in circles.

If Mueller does end his investigation with charges of collusion, I don't know how in the fuck Peltor and millions of others are going to comprehend it. Symbols said it best a few posts ago. We are in the age of Alternative Facts.

So the fact the Mueller has so far charged 19 people and 3 companies is nothing. 3 people have also pleaded guilty relating to the investigation.

Of course there's nothing going on. He's got nothing at all. If you honestly believe Trump knew NOTHING about what was going on you're deluded.

C'mon man, open your eyes and ears.

apatheia and ataraxia

I will be shocked if Mueller doesn't find collusion, based on everything we know about charges and where the investigation is going.

When Trump spews "no collusion" 20 times a day, it actually works on millions, doesn't it? Nevermind that we can prove that he has lied on numerous occasions.

This is all a bad dream.

So, now it appears that an FBI "spy" was embedded in the Trump campaign, and Team Trump wants to expose the person for political reasons.

Maybe I'm not very smart at times, but didn't a whole lot of legal steps have to be taken in order for that person to be there? Shouldn't Trump be worried about WHY that person was there instead of playing cheap politics once again?

Yet others noted that the FBI's Russia "investigation" into Trump didn't seem to extend to Hillary Clinton. We would remind readers that her campaign chair, John Podesta, sat on the board of Massachusetts energy company Joule Unlimited, along with senior Russian official Anatoly Chubais and Russian oligarch Ruben Vardanyan – who was appointed by Vladimir Putin to the Russian economic council.
Two months after Podesta joined the board, Joule managed to raise $35 million from Putin’s Kremlin-backed investment fund Rusnano. Podesta transferred 75,000 shares of Joule to his daughter through a shell company using her address.

Tesla, even if I buy that (not sure where it came from...link please?) and say that Clinton is evil and corrupt etc etc, how does that nullify / answer what I previously stated?

It's always "Clinton this, Clinton that....what about Clinton?", but last time I checked, she is not the current occupant of the White House.

Strange conversation here, because it can be argued that the FBI Investigation into Clinton's emails actually sunk her chances to be POTUS. And yet here we are debating if the FBI is unfair to Trump?

don’t you dare challenge madness with logic, you soroastrian agent of interplanetary reptilio-fascism

It's so obvious now where this whole thing is going to end up. Even Ray Charles can see where this is going. The recent headlines and tweet-storms say it all.


1. The Mueller report will be very bad news for Trump.

2. But, Team Trump will say that it was all Obama's fault, because he directed the FBI to set this all up for political reasons.


We can end this whole debate right now, because that is exactly what is going to happen.

I shall bump this post when it happens.




PS. I forgot point 3......


3. Millions upon millions of Trumpists will buy this explanation, hook, line and sinker.

4. soros

hearing what Comey said, he was pretty sure that Clinton was going to be prez, but was afraid of what Repubs and Trump would say how he lost them the election by holding off on the announcement about her emails which he made at the last minute and was a big factor in her loss. So, more worried about what Repubs think about him than Dems. He's a pretty solid Repub and generally operates to please them.

to my thoughts, two of the most dangerous things to democracy are a politicized police and military. I think we are getting both of them more and more. We need to take the House in 2oi8 and the whole deal in 2o2o to begin to rebuild the country after this disastrous misrule. I'm working hard on it, and I hope all who care are, too.

Michael Cohen rocks The Sopranos' main theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0X29qwm42Y

Trump never acts like an innocent guy. What is he hiding? What is he afraid of? If he was innocent he would let this investigation run its course without all of this bluster.

.....while circling the wagons and discrediting it at every turn.

I think what he has said about this investigation alone is impeachable, but I'm living in some fantasy world where POTUS has to be honest and thoughtful.

meanwhile, on the front of democrats taking responsibility for their own fuckups...


https://splinternews.com/here-are-th...t-t-1823554660

oh yeah that there among the lot is tim kaine, former losing vp candidate...

when people ask “why we lost the election?” it’s pontless to blame the despicables that we can’t control. but it’s things like this why people don’t trust the democrats to defend their interests where it counts.

and yeah good on the net neutrality vote, but this one is bullshit