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gmku 06.15.2015 12:00 PM

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glengarry glen ross? i didn't google


Bingo! Yes.

schizophrenicroom 06.15.2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
ha ha ha-- nobody is normal! only statistics. don't compare yourself to myths.

but i'm glad to hear that thing helps your focus. that's important.


oh i know, i tell my brother this a lot... but still. i feel so much better.

i say "coffee is for closers" a ton.

schizophrenicroom 06.15.2015 12:44 PM

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Same here. But, in our office situation, it sets me up for some bad things. I can't produce the kinds of things my colleagues can, in the office we're partners with, because I have to do it all--they specialize. For example, they have writers and editors, people who write the stories and others who dream up the story ideas, assign, edit, etc. I have to do both. In a way, it's easier, but in a way, I feel like it's tougher because I have to do more, I have to worry about it all, whereas my partners only have to worry about their small part of the puzzle. So, they can go, "Look at everything our office produced. What did you do?", and I feel, well, inferior, because my output isn't as big or interesting.



i mean, you're equally doing the same amount of work, just a different scale

gmku 06.15.2015 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
i mean, you're equally doing the same amount of work, just a different scale


Right. And I guess also what I mean is that I don't have the advantage of getting collaborative help. From experience, I know that a communications product is always better when it comes from a creative team rather than one individual. I don't have any other writers or editors to bounce ideas off, or to proofread my text or suggest changes to improve the flow, etc. I also don't have a designer or a photographer dedicated to the work. I do the web design myself, and I am not a designer, and I have to rely on the designer "downstairs" to squeeze in the print work as she has time.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.15.2015 01:41 PM

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Is weed legal yet in California?

No but we've gone the Vancouver approach. For smokers cops don't bust and courts rarely convinct.

Rob Instigator 06.15.2015 01:44 PM

Only place in the WORLD where recreational weed is fully legal for 21 and up is Colorado.

Rob Instigator 06.15.2015 01:44 PM

and it is every bit as awesome as you may think.

gmku 06.15.2015 01:55 PM

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Only place in the WORLD where recreational weed is fully legal for 21 and up is Colorado.


Oh. I guess I better stop driving around with my stash.

schizophrenicroom 06.15.2015 02:13 PM

i have zero shifts for two weeks. wtf. there are three of us who have none, and one girl has 2/3 over two weeks. the rest are all managers on break/in training, but still.

!@#$%! 06.15.2015 02:30 PM

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i have zero shifts for two weeks. wtf. there are three of us who have none, and one girl has 2/3 over two weeks. the rest are all managers on break/in training, but still.

hurry up lining some copyrwiting gigs, ms. nom de plume

schizophrenicroom 06.16.2015 07:16 PM

i'm gonna be all over the damn place next few days trying to line up stuff, offline and off. i have one shift next fucking saturday. i get my check monday, so essentially that's my last check for a month. ugh. and i'll be gone a whole week in july.

!@#$%! 06.16.2015 07:23 PM

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i'm gonna be all over the damn place next few days trying to line up stuff, offline and off. i have one shift next fucking saturday. i get my check monday, so essentially that's my last check for a month. ugh. and i'll be gone a whole week in july.


GOOD. you can do copywriting from anywhere with a chromebook.

even if you write $10 blurbs, it's a start

Rob Instigator 06.17.2015 08:44 AM

 

gmku 06.17.2015 09:40 AM

Is that legal? If a cop pulls you over, can you refuse to roll down your window, open the car?

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Rob Instigator 06.17.2015 09:41 AM

hell yeah you can. never answer anything a cop asks you. never open your car willingly.

Rob Instigator 06.17.2015 09:41 AM

You gotta cover your ass. the cops are not doing it for you.

Rob Instigator 06.17.2015 09:42 AM

women get raped by cops who pull them over all the time. they rarely report it. Cops watch out for themselves.

gmku 06.17.2015 09:48 AM

I was always advised that one should roll down the window halfway, and that otherwise, it looks like you're hiding something. In other words, look cooperative and be courteous, but of course, don't feel obligated to answer questions.

Rob Instigator 06.17.2015 09:56 AM

I would agree to the short roll down, UNLESS you have been enjoying some smokey stuff. the smell alone is treated as probable cause to search your vehicle.

evollove 06.17.2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku
Is that legal? If a cop pulls you over, can you refuse to roll down your window, open the car?


I wish I had a firmer grasp on the law, but it's confusing, no? There's the Constitution and state laws and a few local caveats, and knowing it all would require an expert.

Anyway, there are laws and then there's the execution. I once had to stand on one leg and touch my nose and repeat the alphabet backwards, all on a gravel parking lot. I later found out sobriety tests have to be conducted on a level surface.

If I had known this at the time and had objected, what would've happened next? A heartfelt apology? What if I asked for another officer to come to the scene and take over? Apparently I have this "right" but how well would this have gone over?

All I know is I almost always pull over to the nearest parking lot if I see a cop car anywhere in my rearview, and I wait for him to pass.

gmku 06.17.2015 12:19 PM

I think the last time I had to pull over for a cop, roll down the window, etc., was about 25 years ago, in Texas, for speeding.

I just don't do anything to get in trouble. I don't go more than 5-6 miles over the limit on the Interstate, I don't drink or otherwise indulge before getting behind the wheel, and I am a very obedient driver with traffic laws, etc.

Rob Instigator 06.17.2015 12:46 PM

you are also not brown-skinned.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.17.2015 12:56 PM

White privilege is to even remotely have the conversation we're having about ways to resist police. The reality is regardless of legality or ethics, defy them and see what happens.

evollove 06.17.2015 12:57 PM

I got busted about 15 years ago after smoking a joint in the car, and now I drive like a wuss because I was fucked with constantly after that. Just took a bored cop to run my plates and I was sure to get pulled over for damn near anything. Crossing the double line, too fast, too slow, too much breaking. "Failure to operate" or some shit is a broad enough category that if a cop wants to fuck with you, he will, I found out.

All it took was a new licence plate and the harassment stopped. Still, my head's permanently fucked.

And I'm white.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.17.2015 01:00 PM

Evol.. now you can empathize with the daily reality of literally millions of people.

evollove 06.17.2015 01:01 PM

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White privilege is to even remotely have the conversation we're having about ways to resist police. The reality is regardless of legality or ethics, defy them and see what happens.


They'll give you a contemptuous smile and then bring the pain. Unless your some super-cool, smart person who can whip off ordinance numbers off the top of your head, cops aren't likely to be impressed by anything any of us would have to say.

evollove 06.17.2015 01:02 PM

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Evol.. now you can empathize with the daily reality of literally millions of people.


So unfair. I'm white. I mean, it's fine for them, but I'm white.

!@#$%! 06.17.2015 01:09 PM

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So unfair. I'm white. I mean, it's fine for them, but I'm white.


you keep telling yourself that... ;)

 

evollove 06.17.2015 01:24 PM

Ha! I guess I should be happy "Equal harassment" exists?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.17.2015 01:30 PM

Speaking of white privilege the chick at the coffee bean dropped a full coffee on me just now.. she gave me some gift cards and thankfully i didn't get burned but still just really fucked up my day

!@#$%! 06.17.2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Ha! I guess I should be happy "Equal harassment" exists?


i don't know. i thought you said you were jewish? that's still not "white" in some places.

maybe you're being harassed by aryan cops!

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ps - here an interesting discussion

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/...inker/1.629888

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashke...aretz-article/

evollove 06.17.2015 02:06 PM

Thanks. Yeah, Jewish "identity" is an incredibly complex issue. To be honest, I think when I examine my behavior, I'm either "white" or "Jewish" depending on which will give me the greatest advantage in a given situation. For a cop, I'll be white. If I want to seem slightly exotic to some chick, I'll be Jewish.

!@#$%! 06.17.2015 02:10 PM

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For a cop, I'll be white.


unless you claim to be a lawyer!

badum-tshhhh....

--

but seriously, that white identity can melt away quickly in some situations... germany in the 30s... or some country clubs...

===

i know this very old "1/2" jewish guy who identifies himself as "a russian" and would wear viking costumes. i once tried arguing with him that he was jewish and he vigorously denied it.

i was thinking about this right now and i remembered that superhilarious woody allen movie, "zelig".

random note- i have some sephardic ancestry, but some people in my yahoo town think i'm russian because of my accent. ha! let them think that & fear my mafia connections.

evollove 06.17.2015 02:34 PM

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i have some sephardic ancestry


You're a Jew. Or, a better way to put it: you could exploit that part of your ancestry if you wanted to.

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i was thinking about this right now and i remembered that superhilarious woody allen movie, "zelig".


I know some whitebreads who converted to Judaism. But they still don't seem to get Woody Allen, or even Jon Stewart. So I consider you as or maybe more Jewish than them, even if they are practicing and devout.

Weird, weird stuff.

!@#$%! 06.17.2015 02:45 PM

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You're a Jew. Or, a better way to put it: you could exploit that part of your ancestry if you wanted to.


i'm more a jewish bastard. meaning there was this moroccan guy who impregnated my great grandmother & then proceeded to fuck off. my grandma was raised catholic, with a mangled last name, and soon everyone forgot where we got our noses.

i have exploited it in the past-- my face helped many times to get me a jewish girlfriend. and i did try to exploit it beyond that, but it's on my dad's side and would have required conversion. i spent almost a year in israel, and many people didn't think i was NOT israeli. saved me from deportation when they were rounding up illegals. in the end i got tired of the social tension and returned to 'merica the vast.

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I know some whitebreads who converted to Judaism. But they still don't seem to get Woody Allen, or even Jon Stewart. So I consider you as or maybe more Jewish than them, even if they are practicing and devout.

Weird, weird stuff.

hey-- i'm good with numbers, and i like to argue-- so yes, ha ha ha ha.

evollove 06.17.2015 03:09 PM

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hey-- i'm good with numbers,


I haven't found this stereotype to be especially true.

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i like to argue.


This one is spot on.

Gentiles get together and hunt small animals. Jews get together and argue about the color of the sky.

schizophrenicroom 06.17.2015 04:10 PM

i was actually thinking of checking out a shabbat service this weekend, what a coincidence to come here while thread's on this topic. somewhere in my background is some jewish ancestry but grew up in lds faith till 8 or 9... gonna see how that goes friday and might keep at it. i do love woody allen and challah, and i'm fairly neurotic so i guess i'll somewhat fit in already

!@#$%! 06.17.2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
I haven't found this stereotype to be especially true.


it's the marijuana. once i got high *with a math teacher* and we couldn't mentally calculate 14x14 ha ha ha.

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i was actually thinking of checking out a shabbat service this weekend, what a coincidence to come here while thread's on this topic. somewhere in my background is some jewish ancestry but grew up in lds faith till 8 or 9... gonna see how that goes friday and might keep at it. i do love woody allen and challah, and i'm fairly neurotic so i guess i'll somewhat fit in already


adonai will be pleased

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.17.2015 04:59 PM

I'm afraid that I'm becoming one of those beat down adults that we all feared/scorned when we were younger.. I hope to get my second wind soon but spending too much time dwelling on my failures, ignoring the victories, letting shit haunt my quiet moments. Summers always bum me the fuck out, I am a person whose mind works best when totally preoccupied by a dozen demanding tasks simultaneously, but when I have some real free time its like..

"I know my head is my worst enemy.."

schizophrenicroom 06.17.2015 05:23 PM

that is me every day


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