Also the irony of !@#$! hating every major US city but that shithole Naw Orlawns is palpable

i'm pointing at cities which are good for working músicos AND cheap to live in. not sure if you realize in this thread i've been addressing crayolas, who plays the piano? and then her actual friend schizo who suggested they become neighbors again. this is not for you/about you / at you / your narcissism. go away. although HELPFUL info about your hell city is... helpful.

i do not "love" nashville, but if i was looking to develop as a musician i'd go there first. 20% cheaper than the u.s. average and a massive cluster of professionals, opportunities to play with others and learn and connect. and southerners are generally a hospitable bunch. so it's an easy/obvious move.

new york may be a musical paradise for everything from classical to jazz to avant-garde to broadway to everything else, but what kid from wyoming loaded with student debt can afford to move there without a trust fund?

l.a. may suck for your band but traditionally it has been a magnet for talent and work in studios, film, etc.-- problem is---the odds of making a living as a musician there are very long, and cost of living is too high to flip pancakes on the side. also, everything that's wrong with america like thinking that everything revolves around you and your dumbass "opinion".

the pacific northwest has gloomy-ass weather. for someone who grew up in florida it must be like a cave. seattle is famous for not letting you make friends easy. and the cost of living is not the cheapest either. i'd skip it.

vegas may have jobs for musicians but it's a fucking depressing shithole. worse even than l.a.

new orleans is still reeling after katrina but its mega-musical tradition survives, has lots of live music, and in spite of the recent destruction and successive gentrification it is still affordable. one can play music with lots of people and learn and live cheaply-- for now anyway.

etc.

having said all that--don't insult new orleans or i'll nail your tongue to a lamp post and kick your car some more. that was the last holy city in the region even though americans have been trying to destroy it since they took it over.

The irony of you accusing me of narcissism for half jokingly criticizing YOUR comment as if i was somehow attacking YOU personally is palpable.

no irony, alanis-- it's more of a carly simon thing where you think this thread is about you.

stick to the motherfucking subject. cities for a young piano player in debt or stop squawking.

plus, she wants to play guitar/sing.

be helpful for once.

Again, you accuse me of narcissism, yet you are being totally self absorbed in some kind of delusions. In what way did i ever suggest or imply anything was about me? I was simply joking about your post, and you took it up your ass like a big fat dildo. Keep it cool and calm yo, i ain't your frenemy

BE HELPFUL FOR ONCE.

Did you miss this post in your self absorbed nonsense

As for canyons situation, i already shared my condolences for her situation and for evolghost's girlfriends similar ome.. i am a failed musician myself, not much i can offer of help and i applaud her courage if she takes you up on your advice.

AHEM

not advice, just suggestion/ideas.

there is nothing for music in her whole region outside of schools-- the closest would be denver, but it's not a great center for music. might as well flee completely. minnessotter might be an alternative to nebraska colleges. savage clone might be able to offer some insight into the minneapolis scene if he ever resurfaces--he gets to play and has a reasonable side job/standard of living.

don't know that you're "failed" if you play what you want, but you live in an expensive hellhole where you're forced to spend more hours at a job and less with geetars just so you can eat and cover your commute. simple math really. for all we know, you could relocate to tulsa and become "successful," whatever that means.

holy jesus.

to be honest I'm considering relocating to ft collins mostly because it's conveniently close to my friends and i could maybe get residency buuuuuut it's been my dream to go to either nawlins or nashville for a while now

as a pianist, it's very difficult to get your foot into the door as far as competitions and such go, as you need to be (usually) practicing and studying under someone very influential and well-known in that snooty community and i simply don't have that working for me right now.

my best bet is hopping on board with a band or forming my own and seeing where that goes while i try to get residency somewhere worth going

dont worry about holy jesus, suchfriends and i always argue about everything. you should see the mightly football thread. kindly ignore the noise, which is irrelevant.

anyway, on with the story....


lol go already while you're young. the older you get the harder it is to work shit jobs and live on ramen and make lifelong friends that will be your network. and dreams get more distant and one gets sadder and more "reasonable" and then it's an office job to pay the student debt and a drink at the end of the day to forget you once wanted something. then you're stuck someplace.

those dream cities have schools too, and in-state tuition should be cheap after a year. but you get a chance to play as well with other young & hungry people and also find old musicians and mentors and who knows.

re: the snootie.s they've been chosen for competitions probably since they were 7, yes? they proably were hanging out in your backyard at the grand teton the past few weeks. sometimes they go on performance today, the little brats, talking to fred child about how they want to skateboard but their dads won't let them lolol. so what if that's not you. you still can play and you love music. yes?

popular music demands something other than absolute technical perfection-- it doesn't care if you went to school or played with a broken piano that you fixed in an alley. right? you need skills but also... i don't know, it's different. more options i think. plus, professionals never stop learning, right? it's not like you get a gig and never take classes again. e.g., quincy jones dropped out of berklee to go to tour, later studied with nadia boulanger, later produced michael jackson, ha ha. it's a lifelong study and it's not all in a classroom. i remember reading somewhere that corin tucker took lessons from an opera singer so she wouldn't lose her voice touring with s/k. always learning/practicing, for life.

anyway, i don't know what's in fort collins--- but colorado has good breweries and free weed. maybe a lot of musicians moving in as a result lol. i have friends in denver and boulder but never been to fort collins. wikipedia says: a local symphony, and CSU has a music scene around it. okay. maybe that. it ain't mecca though.

anyway, best wishes with whatever you choose but i hope you don't chicken out of your dreams, because, damn. and i'm no musician so i can't offer any advice proper but i hope you connect with others soon. we tried arts via the internet for 2 years while living in the boonies and it didn't work out, so now we're going where the art is. there's no e-shortcut for community. fact. gotta get in the thick of it and share meals and coffees and beers and hardships and look at people's faces to get into the action. start a band, leave a band, break a band, etc. it's just how things work. the longer you stay, the deeper your roots. the more you do something, the more you end up doing it. the longer you wait for change, the harder it gets to change. not to say it's impossible, but things build up that way.

The bodies of 71 people were found in the back of truck in Parndorf (a town in the Austrian province of Burgenland) yesterday. It seems as though they were Syrian migrants seeking to flee their country. Apparently, the truck had been abandoned in the emergency lane of a highway for a day before someone noticed. This is absolutely horrendous and inhumane. As if the living conditions for refugees in this country weren't bad enough already. And on top of that, far right nuts are still spouting their vicious hatred whilst polluting the social networks. Some people should just drink a big cup of shut up juice.

She wants to be an interpreter. She switched her majors and she's b een learnign sign for about a year and halfs. She's already fluent and WAAAAYYY ahead of where she should be, but it helps that she has deaf family which she spends a lot of time with. I'm trying to learn at least the alphabet. I have a lot of it down and I know some other signs too...basic ones, but I wish to learn enough to communicate. Deaf people are really....open. They're not limited to shame and embarrassment like hearing people. It's weird..but it's pretty easy to be INCREDIBLY open with them. Anyways...the community is so welcoming! it's really nice.

More irony, only one arguing about anything was you. I made joke about your post, you got in a hissy fit, i made another joke. Why so jumpy?

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ahhhh... very nice. yes! ASL is more than just a language, it's part of a whole other culture really. it's funny (to me) when people think ASL is english-with-hands.

the interpreter job seems super intense. when i was in grad school i had a couple of deaf classmates (not in my actual class but in courses i took) and the interpreter would be there going at lightning speed.

well i hope she can take advantage of the hiatus to save her pesos and practice more in the meantime. it's not like she can take the course elsewhere & transfer credits, right? if it was english 101 maybe...

anyway, good to hear things go well in spite of obstacles

so i think i've decided on fort collins, but if that doesn't work out i have other options too. hopefully i'll be okay. an AFA might not get me anywhere but i'm hoping it'll get me into a good school somewhere so i can continue with my education.

yeah...definitely not just English with hands. A whole new syntax n what not. ASL is not offered in many colleges around here. There's only like 3 where she can continue and one is pretty far.

well, colorado is definitely a sweet place to live. the fittest people in the country, excellent microbrews, lots of beautiful outdoors, and now... legal weed!

at some point we considered moving to denver because we like it, but we have more connections in neo-mexes, so in the end we didn't.

best wishes with the move!


if DC hadn't gotten so expensive i'd say go to gallaudet... well, you can always live in PG county and commute...

this popped up in lifehacker today

https://www.edq.com/data-quality-inf...ng-in-america/

youre the third person i know or tangentally know who has decided to or has moved to fort collins in like, six months. wtf. wherever you go dude, youll get in.


evolghost- that's so cool, interpreting. somewhere in ne florida is the fl school for the deaf whom i'm sure can always use interpreters.

baltimore had 45 murders in 31 days, the month of july. holy fuck. i just watched all of season 3 of the wire and that was the first news story i see online.

It was a poppin summer in Bmore.. kyrie eleison

Circuit Of Americas in Austin, Texas


I had never been to a venue that housed a racetrack and concert venue.

For those who enjoy POP music, Pentatonix is sort of a big thing.

yo, krayolas...

been thinking about this post and was going to send you a PM about it but i thought to add, besides my best wishes...

i hope you get to continue working in your music career in CO. education is good, but as someone who got too much of it and also worked in it for a while (and continues to have connections w/ the higher education industry), i should give you warning that education does not prepare you for "the real world". the real world of art and commerce is very different from academia and it follows very different rules. and school can delay your entry into it. so this is just to encourage you to keep connected with the music business in some shape or form while you go to school. that way your education and your work can actually feed of each other, theory + practice.

best,

!@#$%!

ps - bytor who just posted above this has a friend who is a professional musician and if i recally plays with/for kelly clarkson. so i'll assume he makes a decent living. keyboards too, i think? i'd bug him for pointers.

Frank Zappa made an otherworldy acid trip of a movie about this.

so registered for the clep, and my stepdad offered to help pay my loan by end of the month so i can finally have my goddamn degree. but shit, i hafta call fiu and see if just having my aa would put me in "good standing" there seeing as a transfer requirement for uf is being in "good standing" at any previously attended institution. which i guess makes sense. but ugh. i do not want to do this. i get legitimate ptsd symptoms just thinking about the years 2012 and 2013. and the 2nd half of 2011.

Baby steps. Its your life, not a race with anyone else. Like Tupac mama afini shakur said, "fuck the world if they can't adjust its just as well Hail Mary"

oh yeah, i'm very much realizing that finally. i'm very close to content with where i am (i mean, it took my folks long enough to help me out but i wouldn't have loaned me money a year ago, either) but i'm just not very good with baby steps, i guess. how's your night?

damn, friend, it makes me supersad to imagine what you've gone through. but it also makes me happy that you can see clearly and leave that behind.

as for teh ptsd-- is there an indirect way to deal with this. like, email being easier than phone? or maybe getting a letter from a health provider so you can be somehow pardoned?

i know this sounds silly and even spoiled by comparison but i once got a shrink's letter to help me get a desk by a window in an office. SAD is real, yo.

but anyway--medical excuses are medical excuses. maybe approach it that way, rather than something more self-punishing?

i have paperwork and documentation explaining the first time i was thrown out of fiu and all the appeal stuff. for the second time all i really have is excuses. i don't have another day off until saturday to really sit down and do all my research.

and did you get the window?

end of the tour was REALLY FUCKING GOOD

oh hell yeah i got the window all 4 years i was there. it was really helpful. dark offices truly kill me. if i'm indoors i'm always by a window, or i go bananas. i probably wouldn't survive guantanamo without going psychotic.

anyway best wishes sorting that out. maybe some day you can write about it, somehow.

none of us do well with "contentment" indeed is the the penultimate human preoccupation which causes the most harm. the trick is gradually working on it.. indeed being discontented about having a lack of contentment is part of the very same cyclical and cynical pattern!

As for my night, it was epic.. went dancing to my all time favorite live reggae artist and unlike life sometimes he didn't disappoint!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5TUj0EIfbo (this isn't from last night but its same artist same venue)

i'm admittedly not a big reggae version, but that's pretty chill.

i have yet to really go out dancing here. there are only a few clubs anyways and they're my sort of crowd, but i'm just not into it anymore.

yeah, i need a window. i prefer dark/winter but i mean, i'm not opposed to a nice day.

As most of yall already probably know..

"I don't like reggae.. oh no.. I LOVE IT!"

Dancing to live reggae is so cathartic for me.. i get possessed and have probably caught fame on countless phone videos and you tube clips of, "hey look at this dude!" Since i don't have dreads its probably all the more bewildering and esoteric like, "where did this white guy learn to dance like that?"

So it's come to this: I actually found myself in a situation where I had to reject a person admitting to loving me. I never thought I'd ever have to be in this position. Can't say it feels good, but it was the right decision. When it came to it, it was hard for me to find the right words, because I myself have dealt with unrequited love time and time again. So I know how it feels. I just hope she takes it well.

hey, you gotta worry about you and your emotional health. it sucks and it took a long time for me to tell someone the same, that i just can't love them back anymore (well, that's a slightly different case.) and i've been on the other side, and uh that stings right now... like rubbing alcohol on an open wound. but either way, it's life.

It's Fantasy Draft Day :D

Last night at the arcade. It was so fucking fun. Literally everyone I play with, minus like 3/4 players, were there. So many good matches in! All these mofo's are real killers and I was doing fairly well. I had myself a nice little streak going then this guy comes in with some girl he's with and started to bragged. He was saying things like, "THIS IS THE PLACE TO PLAY STREET FIGHTER, ALL THESE GUYS ARE MASTERS. I COME HERE ALL THE TIME AND PLAY." Yeah...I've never seen that fucker in my life, and I used to basically live at the arcade....now I'm reduced to at least once a week(twice if I'm being a responsible human). Anyways....life is really fucking good.

EDIT: like 3 more doods showed up a little later.