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Which side if New York
I know a similar thread exists, but amongst other things, it got me thinking. Which band is tied up to it than most? This thread will only go as far as the band themselves say something, so it remains only in my own assumptions and ideas.
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hiphop for me is the music i think of when i think of new york. other than that, ramones, VU, SY & no wave. jazz stuff too, particularly 60s free jazz, impulse and ESP type things.
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Disco for me. Something like Chic or Odyssey. Then the stuff T&B mentioned
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Simon & Garfunkel
The Blues Project Bob Dylan really got going here after arriving from Hibbing, MN. and yeah..those other bands mentioned before....:D |
Hip Hop of the east coast type, Velvet Underground, Sonic Youth, Little Italy, H S Jr, Warhol, the new york esperimental scene in the 60's. Disco!
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Velvet Underground, most definitely. Sonic Youth, not so much. Even though Conor Oberst is from Nebraska, he makes me think of NYC a lot because of all his references to Brooklyn and the village and whatnot.
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, too. "We're number one in new york city". |
i gained a better grasp of new york geography than most americans just through listening to hip hop, and by that i mean i could name more neighbourhoods throughout the five boroughs.
bedstuy, do or die! |
hip hop gains the crown for me too. Even though i love the velvets blah blah, new york remains hip hop city-guide for me too.
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Lil Kim's Hold Your Lighters Up is also a great lesson in American geography
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Perhaps it's because I am younger, but Hip Hop doesn't hold the crown for me. Hip Hop bursts out of a lot of places. West Coast is definitely distinguishable from East Coast, but there's always the odd mid-west rap coming out of Detroit and places like that that cloud the map, if you understand what I mean.
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yeah, but up until about 5 years ago new york was the only hiphop city really, LA had produced a few notable things, but still now if you look at a list of top100 hiphop records of all time, 90% of them will be by new york artists.
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and the other thing about all those new york groups is that they frequently make references to their own or other neighbourhoods, they talk about new york city as if it was the whole world.
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It might as well be the whole world, it's a fucking amazing place.
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No, hip hop and new york as a whole. no arguments.right?
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If you can't find it here, it doesn't exist !!
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Never been to New York, but I often imagine it to be one of those places that's also a non-place... by which I mean, Grime couldn't've come out of anywhere but London, but it's the disconnection, the lack of social cohesion that makes London London. As opposed to Manchester or Glasgow or Bristol (with its beloved 'trip-hop') where there is a scene because there's a recognisable scene, rather than some people in one corner?
Makes sense? No? Well fuck your face then. |
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How could I forget these guys !!! Technically from Long Island, I believe...
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Zorn strikes me as the composer who actually played New York by using it's musicians like instruments.
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Quicksand, Helmet, Handsome, among others, are whom I think of when thinking of New York.
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