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jon boy 09.10.2008 07:52 PM

The destruction and butchery of language
 
am i alone in desparing at the destruction of language in todays society? i know languages addapt and change, i dont speak in the same way my grandparents did but in recent times i have begun to wonder if all the kids are doomed to a dumbed down version of language.

this is not a spelling or grammar thread.

Cantankerous 09.10.2008 07:54 PM

if the kids keep getting dumber, so will the language.

This Is Not Here 09.10.2008 07:57 PM

My grandparents are round this week, and yeah, they speak elegantly and articulately, they can say a mean sentance for sure. Just sadly what they express so brilliantly isn't interesting WHATSOEVER.

Cantankerous 09.10.2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
if the kids keep getting dumber, so will the language.

however, this being said, it's sad that especially in america the collective IQ of the youth seems to be slipping about 10 points each year. we're going to be surrounded by retards before too long.

oh wait...

gualbert 09.10.2008 08:02 PM

I can read books of the 18th century , and I understand almost everything.
Language isn't changing that much ( at least french ).

Alex's Trip 09.10.2008 08:12 PM

Don't go blaming the youth. Or at least exclude me.

I speak as correctly as I can, and I write the same way - grammar, spelling and all. If you really are concerned about language though, why don't you make an effort to capitalize and punctuate correctly? I know you say this isn't about that, but how can you talk about language and disregard the structure of it?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.10.2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
am i alone in desparing at the destruction of language in todays society? i know languages addapt and change, i dont speak in the same way my grandparents did but in recent times i have begun to wonder if all the kids are doomed to a dumbed down version of language.

this is not a spelling or grammar thread.


that is your own opinion, but you have already conceded that language changes and adapts. That is the fun part, you are going about it all wrong, don't be so prudish about language. Making up and adapting to others changes in speech patterns, intonation, implied meaning, syntax, etc etc is what makes language truly and art form.

EMMAh 09.10.2008 09:05 PM

 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.10.2008 09:15 PM

non proper english that I cant refuse:

saying "them" instead of "they" or "those"
saying "seen" instead of "I undestand completely"
saying "bust-a-bitch" instead of "make a u-turn"
saying "fo sho" instead of "I agree"

and of course, who could live without the universal verb noun and adjective "fuck"?

jon boy 09.10.2008 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
that is your own opinion, but you have already conceded that language changes and adapts. That is the fun part, you are going about it all wrong, don't be so prudish about language. Making up and adapting to others changes in speech patterns, intonation, implied meaning, syntax, etc etc is what makes language truly and art form.


yes it is my opinion, well spotted sir. what i was trying to make a point about was the fact that we seem to be dumming down somewhat. yes language adapts but we seem to be going backwards. thats not prudish, merely my observation.

Senate 09.10.2008 09:22 PM

If you're not talking about spelling and grammar, then which part of the destruction do you take umbrage at?

Cantankerous 09.10.2008 09:22 PM

if i have to read this bum telling people they're wrong and being righteous one more fucking time...

floatingslowly 09.10.2008 09:23 PM

greetings, children! I am yr archenemy.

:)

I lust for the destruction and butchery of language.

the rending of written words sustains me!

yr words are dying, even though they still drip from yr lips and fingers!!!

hearken!

a day will come, in yr not-so-distant future, when a global-pig-latin will be spoken!

until that day arrives, I shall do what I can to make ready.

LOLOHOLSIHOHOHO!!


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EMMAh 09.10.2008 09:26 PM

Eyha hatwa reaa ouya alkingta boutaa? Ti'sa appeningha owna!!

jon boy 09.10.2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Senate
If you're not talking about spelling and grammar, then which part of the destruction do you take umbrage at?


i just meant my spelling.

perhaps this is a generational thing?

floatingslowly 09.10.2008 09:35 PM

^^^ an honorable yet fruitless gesture.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMMAh
Eyha hatwa reaa ouya alkingta boutaa? Ti'sa appeningha owna!!


Iway cay utway uway idday arthay.

^^^ that means GTFO in ethiopian.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.10.2008 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
yes it is my opinion, well spotted sir. what i was trying to make a point about was the fact that we seem to be dumming down somewhat. yes language adapts but we seem to be going backwards. thats not prudish, merely my observation.


I disagree that we are going backwards linguistically, I think that the progression is ever foward, as more people adapt the English they speak it only signifies progress of English, as that is what the language is. English is a bastard language, which evolved continuously like Swahili as it comes in contact with other languages. We adapt the grammar, syntax, intonation an pronunciation of other speakers continually to understand and enjoy each other. We are progressing, not digressing, and making our language exceedingly more interesting in the process, but that is also just, my opinion.

floatingslowly 09.10.2008 09:43 PM

I think the LHC has doomed us all. I just read everysingleword of a verylongparagraph and

agreed.

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jon boy 09.10.2008 09:47 PM

dude like your so like right dude innit. whatyouonabout? like theres this stuff and its like really y'kow like hard and its like i dunno like man what you saying like dude your right.

floatingslowly 09.10.2008 09:48 PM

that's the spirit!


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