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SYRFox 10.24.2008 11:33 AM

May I have your advice on a track I just made?
 
I've done this electronica track a few hours ago, I'd like to have a few advices on it... is it good, is it awful?

It's called Precipitate


http://soundcloud.com/syrfox/precipitate

al shabbray 10.24.2008 11:40 AM

it loads really sloooooooooooooooow

stu666 10.24.2008 11:42 AM

i'll try and d/l later at the moment it is going to take 2 hours @ 2kbps

al shabbray 10.24.2008 11:43 AM

yes i dunno why, but I just hear the first two seconds of the trippy delay madness :)

SYRFox 10.24.2008 11:44 AM

Aaah this sucks, it's because of my shitty webhoster
By the way the track actually isn't AT ALL like the first seconds, it's just an intro I did, the rest is more Boards of Canada like
I'm uploading it on Soundcloud

al shabbray 10.24.2008 11:46 AM

okay. will be here for about 30 minutes I think, then I have to head off to my grandma, I broke and need something to eat, hahaha

SYRFox 10.24.2008 11:48 AM

Aaah that sucks for some reason it seems my computer won't let me log onto Soundcloud! It just keeps on saying "Logging in" without nothing happening at all
I'll try uploading it on last.fm instead then...

al shabbray 10.24.2008 11:50 AM

sometimes everythings against you :)

btw I can listen to it now till the piano like sounds start. I know what you mena with the BoC reference now. I wanna hear it!!!!

SYRFox 10.24.2008 12:08 PM

It's finally coming on both soundcloud and last.fm soon...

SYRFox 10.24.2008 12:10 PM

http://soundcloud.com/syrfox/precipitate

Waveform is still creating apparently..

al shabbray 10.24.2008 12:13 PM

its there I will have a listen

SYRFox 10.24.2008 12:14 PM

Available :)

al shabbray 10.24.2008 12:20 PM

comments are there now...its epic!

SYRFox 10.24.2008 12:23 PM

Thanks for the comments man :) as I said there, I actually didn't use bitcrushing, the only effect I used is delay :)

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.24.2008 01:13 PM

it sounds like you dropped a bunch of marbles in the beginning, I would cut that shit out and go right into the bells, and add some flange or delay to those bells, it will make things more surreal. but I like the melody, there is a lot to build upon it.

StevOK 10.24.2008 10:18 PM

The intro reminds me of the bonus track from The Width of an Octopus by Thundering Lizards. The rest is very nice, I will have to listen to it again the next time I'm high.

max 10.25.2008 01:17 AM

while I too, don't really understand the need for the intro, I enjoy the tune.

the sound used and the chords progression remind me of the very first SILENT HILL soundtrack composed by Akira Yamaoka in 1999 - an essential work for all noise aficionados. also something by Brad Fidel... 80ies, man!

thumbs up!

al shabbray 10.25.2008 03:30 AM

I would say: keep the intro and let it appear again later, maybe at the end of that long beatless part. so oyu got a connection. but even if not, let it in, it just brings you on the wrong rail, wich is good I think

_slavo_ 10.25.2008 03:39 AM

I LOVE IT!!!!

Very hallucinating, far from 'ordinary' electronica. Trippy and fucking great.
I especially love the primitiveness of the drumbeat.

Much, much respect.

al shabbray 10.25.2008 03:40 AM

yes the whole track got a live feel attached, please keep that, its really fresh I think

_slavo_ 10.25.2008 03:48 AM

I think this track is much better than the other ones, that carry a strong Constellation stigma.

SYRFox 10.25.2008 05:43 AM

Thanks :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by _slavo_
I think this track is much better than the other ones, that carry a strong Constellation stigma.

Yeah, I only had a piano before (no Fruity Loops or stuff like that :D) so I was only able to play that kind of tracks, and I was kind of limited with it; I feel freer now

al shabbray 10.25.2008 06:36 AM

but I really like your piano works too, strong atmospheres!!! its just another type of...erm genre.
or is slavo referring to something else?

SYRFox 10.25.2008 06:38 AM

I think he's refering to my piano works
By the way there'll still be some piano tracks on my next album
I'm trying to record them in a better way this time but I'm not sure if it's gonna be okay

al shabbray 10.25.2008 06:40 AM

often bad recordings enhance the athmosphereic aspects.
for me (like I said somewhere here before):
atmosphere > technique

SYRFox 10.25.2008 06:41 AM

Yeah you're right, there's a feeling of melancholy that comes with bad recordings, especially with piano (see Mogwai's "Oh How The Dog Stack Up" or last part of first track on Lift Yr Skinny Fists by GYBE). I don't know what I'll do with those piano tracks
I have to re-record them anyway, cause most of them are only recorded in a demo state

_slavo_ 10.25.2008 08:12 AM

exactly as you said with the Mogwai and Godspeed tracks..the resemblance is there and is too obvious.
that's why I like your last song a milion times more.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.25.2008 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by max
while I too, don't really understand the need for the intro, I enjoy the tune.

the sound used and the chords progression remind me of the very first SILENT HILL soundtrack composed by Akira Yamaoka in 1999 - an essential work for all noise aficionados. also something by Brad Fidel... 80ies, man!

thumbs up!


fucking a, I was gonna call it some fucking SILENT HILL shit!

SYRFox 10.27.2008 09:33 AM

Hey there
I've recorded two of my piano tracks for the new album this morning, advices about them would be appreciated as well :) I tried to improve the recording quality, and I think I've done: even if it's not perfect, the sound is really much clearer. Let me know what you think about it, the tracks, the recording, etc... Thanks :)

The Sun And Moon Cult Under The Invisible Bridge
And They All Could Feel The Special Atmosphere In The Air On That Precise Moment

(yeah I thought I'd give them ultra long titles :D)

SYRFox 10.27.2008 01:44 PM

bump

al shabbray 10.27.2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
Hey there
I've recorded two of my piano tracks for the new album this morning, advices about them would be appreciated as well :) I tried to improve the recording quality, and I think I've done: even if it's not perfect, the sound is really much clearer. Let me know what you think about it, the tracks, the recording, etc... Thanks :)

The Sun And Moon Cult Under The Invisible Bridge
And They All Could Feel The Special Atmosphere In The Air On That Precise Moment

(yeah I thought I'd give them ultra long titles :D)


the quality is great. I love your piano tracks, what more can I say? :)

SYRFox 10.27.2008 02:14 PM

Thanks :)

(btw to answer your comment, I play an upright piano - I think that's the right expression. It's a Scherer that we bought seven years ago - but it needs to be retuned now, it's kind of out of tune.

al shabbray 10.27.2008 02:17 PM

its really expansive to tune a piano if you cant do it by yourself isnt it?
I thinks it sounds fantastic

SYRFox 10.27.2008 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by al shabbray
its really expansive to tune a piano if you cant do it by yourself isnt it?
I thinks it sounds fantastic

yeah it's really expansive - and it's kind of impossible to tune it yourself, you have to own very special instruments. it's like 100€ to tune it all the time, and you're supposed to tune it every year (I think it's been three years since I last tuned it now :D)

SYRFox 10.27.2008 02:36 PM

anyway a piano always sounds good :D

al shabbray 10.27.2008 03:04 PM

yes its the holy cow of instruments for a reason I think.
did you have lessons? or did you taught it yourself?

SYRFox 10.27.2008 04:14 PM

I attended lessons (piano + music theory) at a music school for 6 years - from September 2001 to June 2007. At the end I was able to play some rather complex Debussy works, but since I left the school I think I have lost a bit of technical skills (I'm not pretending I was a piano genius before); but I didn't really needed them for my compositions anyway, they're not too technical to play.
What I've gained from lefting the school, however, is a certain liberty: I mean before, I was sometimes (often while improvising) stuck in theory, like I would always fall into chords I had studied or whatever; it's not the case anymore

al shabbray 10.27.2008 04:23 PM

I feel that.
Ive never took guitar lessons, and of course I lost a year to lern the basics, but when Ive played with other guitarists who took lessons I felt like Ive gained something more important for me, freedom in how to play something. thoe guys where always kinda trapped in how to do something. I kept this D.I.Y. style, hahha not everybodies cup of tea, of course.
and since i am almost playing in non-standard tunings only I am way too far out for every guitarero Ive met so far (thats the reason in the first place why Ive started to make the music I am doing now, hahaha)

SYRFox 10.27.2008 04:45 PM

guitar heroes suck. it's another different thing, there's no really piano heroes (ahah) i guess (except really really good players but they won't go playing hours-long solos... maybe i don't know too many piano players though)
but yeah, it's great to have a little freedom, especially when you try to improvise...

al shabbray 10.27.2008 04:48 PM

yes there isnt anything worse then somebody who thinks he is technically better then nybody else when it comes to music. its NO competition its art for fucks sake. but alot of guys tend to make a competition out of everything, I think that sucks big times, and especially a lot of guitarists are this way, but I am sure thats because the guitar is maybe the most played instrument?


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