top ten fave "punk" albums
 

Hey, ho, lets go ...

I like when this thread comes up because it gives me a chance to mention that there are nearly no punk albums I ever listen to, unless you count DHR records (which you should).

So, er, can I take that as a yawn then?





EDIT: What/who is/are DHR, btw?

Digital Hardcore - Atari Teenage Riot and their label.

I yawn at punk music, but not at the thread.

I'm the other way around really. Punk's okay, but this thread is a bit boring to be honest. It's just gonna be the usual Ramones, Heartbreakers stuff isn't it. Are ATR punks? I dunno, probably. Is DJ Hell punk? Is Barking in London or Essex? Are Big Macs getting smaller? Should you ever put mayonaisse in a cheese sandwich? All these questions.

Yes and yes. Case closed.

They are getting smaller aren't they. So it's not just me. Cool. I'm against the idea of putting mayonaisse in a cheese sandwich, and would never do it at home, but in supermarket ones, they tend to be far too dry without it. In principle though, it seems very wrong.

ill try to keep this to more traditional punk and early hardcore for simplicity's sake, so that omits proto punk, post punk, etc..:

1. wire-pink flag
2. bad brains-ROIR
3. black flag-damaged
4. damned-damned damned damned
5. the dead kennedys-fresh fruit...
6. mdc-millions of dead cops
7. crass-feeding of the 5000
8. discharge-why?
9. the cramps-bad music for bad people
10. the misfits-walk among us

no to mayonaise

Ah, threads are what you make 'em though.

Glice's top ten made upPunk Bands

1. The Humunculoids
2. Salvage crockery
3. Trytych Monestequeir
4. The Erps
5. Scratchwarriors
6. Ne'rdowells
7. The Thromboses
8. Chris Rea
9. Side parting!!!!
10. The Dithering.

I think you're ultimately right.

Anyway, according to Kerrang magazine (increasingly the source of all my opinions) these are the ten best.

1. Sex Pistols Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols (1977)
2. Green Day Dookie (1994)
3. Dead Kennedys Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables (1980)
4. Nirvana Nevermind (1991)
5. The Offspring Smash (1994)
6. Rancid ...And Out Come the Wolves (1995)
7. Discharge Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing (1982)
8. The Clash The Clash (1977)
9. The Damned Machine Gun Etiquette (1979)
10. Ramones Ramones (1976)

the only place mayonaise is warranted is in a chicken burger.

Mayonnaise nay-sayers are obviously speaking out of ignorance.

I'm going to skip by all of the obvious complaints, and get right to the one that bothers me most: Green Day above Dead Kennedys? Really?

1) X-Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents
2) X - Los Angeles
3) The Damned - Machine Gun Etiquette
4) Siouxsie and the Banshees - The Scream
5) Bad Brains - Bad Brains
6) Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
7) The Clash - The Clash
8) Black Flag - Damaged
9) Circle Jerks - Golden Shower of Hits
10) D.O.A. - Something Better Change

I like so many more than these.

I find the Dead Kennedys deathly dull; Green Day only slightly irksome. Strangely, that might make me precisely Kerrang's audience.

It sort of surprised me too. But y'know, it's Kerrang. Who are we to argue?

Anyway, according to well-informed scribes at Spin Magazine, these are the ten best:

Ramones - Ramones (1976)
Wire - Pink Flag (1977)
The Clash - The Clash (1977)
X - Los Angeles (1980)
X-Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents (1978)
Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady (1979)
Gang of Four - Entertainment (1979)
Husker-Du - New Day Rising (1985)
The Raincoats - The Raincoats (1979)
Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Buzzcocks (1977)

So many different opinions. It's like i'm in an avalanche of conflicting viewpoints. Terribly exciting.

I read an interview with Chris Rea the other day and was really pleased to discover that, behind his rather sullen public persona, he's quite the joker.

I kind of irks me that three of their choices are mine and that I should have included the Ramones but didn't. I love Wire and the Buzzcocks too....grrr - why do I hate it so much that I agree with a lot of this list?

Am I allowed to think of Appetite for Destruction as a punk album?

But you find punk to be dull. So, techincally, that only confirms DK as the best punk act of all time. I think they're more or less the "most punk" you can get.

You're allowed to think whatever the fuck you want, but you'd be totally wrong.

That's what I was worried about. I'll not think of it as one in that case. No point in being wrong when you don't have to be.

hate my lists

How are they?

Your lists are what keep me going. When your shoulder heals, I'm gonna come over and tread on it so you'll have to write more.

Lists are where it's at. Make Lists Not War.

Quite good, thank you.

They're really just fast rock, not incredibly talented but can make it seem like they are, they basically dressed up to punk standards, their singer had an obnoxious voice, and they had all kinds of anarchistic controversial agendas. They also made fun of Dire Straits at an executive show. That's pretty much what I consider punk.

I think using the criterion 'dull' to be indicative of punk would make Carol Vorderman into the grand avatar of punk. You may well have a point.

Yes, Carol Vorderman is shockingly dull. But strangely more attractive than that woman in X-Ray Specs. Who always struck me as looking like a supply teacher.

I'd definitely keep it warm in Carol, but I'd hate for my mates to find out.

No way. I'd be shouting it from the rooftops if I managed to cop off with Vorderman. I'd probably even embellish a few details. You know, make her out to be a bit on the dirty side, liked to be knocked about a bit, called names. That kind of thing.

Punk as fuck, this one:

I can't for a second imagine that she'd be anything more than filthier than several legions of shit.

Nigella, meanwhile, would wake up in the morning to every paper advertising my knobbing of her.

Yeah well, Nigella's a different league altogether. Proper dirty I reckon. Into all sorts.

Y'know she's going to smile sweetly as she slides it up her shitter. Bloody loves it.

Ahem.

Sorry, I think I may have over-stepped the mark there.

Shit, reading that gave me a bit of a tingle to be honest.

Was it a "those are nice trousers... oh." sort of tingle or a "Oh, I'm walking past hockey again, how does this keep...ooooooh dear" sort of a tingle?