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Moshe 08.04.2009 12:14 AM

SUNN O))) jeans ad
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxjGPRPODyc

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 12:16 AM

wow

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 12:17 AM

what the fuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhKyC...e=channel_page

Zombie Robot 08.04.2009 12:21 AM

what the mutha? i want commercials like that here.

Zombie Robot 08.04.2009 12:22 AM

just watched atsonics clip- wtf is right.

GeneticKiss 08.04.2009 12:50 AM

If I saw that commerical late at night, I'd have to go to bed, because I'd think I was having a waking dream.

Their logo has an upside down cross in it...

Tokolosh 08.04.2009 03:23 AM

Less is more. Nice ad.

_slavo_ 08.04.2009 03:26 AM

"Anti-Sweden" jeans with inverted cross in the logo?

wow

chairman of the bored 08.04.2009 08:51 AM

what the fuck

_slavo_ 08.04.2009 10:08 AM

satanic jeans. i can't believe my eyes.

 

joe11121 08.04.2009 02:25 PM

That commercial was awesome.

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 02:31 PM

they got you hooked.

enjoy being assraped by the copro marketing muchine.

they got sunn O))) and Merzbow, what next? prurient selling frosted flakes?

You will see.

it is all co-opted.

30 years ago no one would have believed it if you told them the stooges and the Ramones would be ubiquitous commercial music, but they are now.

enjoy selling thjem yr souls for some stupid fucking jeans./

GeneticKiss 08.04.2009 02:43 PM

I don't see how that could work. The music is too ambient and abstract for your average person to think that someone puts out records of that sort of thing.

I strongly doubt harsh noise could ever be co-opted by the mainstream, because it's just too hard to listen to for many people. Not only that, but it's so unusual that the music would draw attention away from the product.

"Lust For Life" (Carnival Cruises) and "Blitzkrieg Bop" (I think it was AT&T) worked because they're fairly upbeat, catchy songs.

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 02:56 PM

Right.

The music in that ad isn't really much different than a lot of movie/game soundtrack albums (see: the films of David Lynch... see Silent Hill soundtracks... etc). People are aware of those sounds already, and I highly doubt it's really going to become some new trend because of some obscure Swedish Jeans commercial with a drone and some weird piano knocking around.

It's not even really representative of Merzbow or Sunn's overall sound, either. I wonder if Sunn or Merzbow sell any records because of this ad? (probably not)

Also, Merzbow existed 30 years ago, with those punk bands you mentioned, Rob... Just sayin'. This commercial isn't going to change shit. Still pretty cool though.

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 02:57 PM

most people who hear songs on commercials assume they were written for the commercials, unless they ahve already heard the song. I have run into several peopl;e who had no idea lust for life was not a jingle written for carnival cruise lines.

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 02:57 PM

I did not say it was a trend. i said that it SUCKS.

I hate hearing any music co-opted to sell BULL:SHIt
whatever bullshit may be sold is irrelevant.

Decayed Rhapsody 08.04.2009 02:59 PM

Honestly, if I needed the money real bad I wouldn't be averse to doing that sort of thing. It'd depend on the kind of commercial, though.

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 02:59 PM

Music on an album is just a long advertisement for the manufacturers of the plastic used to make cd's (also an advertisement tool for the people who print up the booklets and make cases).

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I hate hearing any music co-opted to sell BULL:SHIt


I love hearing music that is good on commercials!

I love knowing that good bands are making money!

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 03:08 PM

I love knowing that whatever associations are made in people's heads as a result of the art of their music will now be forever tainted by the image of a shiny volkswagen 4 wheel drive vehicle, or a new style of underwear! yay!

it fucking SUCKS and I hate it.

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 03:09 PM

Who cares what other people think or what image they associate a song with? How many AWESOME songs have shitty music videos? Is the song forever ruined because the band made a shitty music video?

Nearly every band sells out in some way... that's how they succeed. They almost always are going to endorse something and be associated with something shitty. Even Thee Mighty Sonik Youth and the Starbucks debacle.

I just think people think too much about this shit. Who cares? Music is out there and can be used however it needs to be used; applied in any way. Ultimately, the band let this jeans commercial happen, and what can I say? It's a cool commercial. Would I actually buy those jeans? Fuck no! Do I think someone is going to buy those jeans because Sunn was in an ad? Yeah, some weirdo probably will. Does it matter either way?

...


Well, time to put on my cd-r copy of FLIGHT OF THE BEHEMOTH. I'm going to mark the title out and write "I Dream of JEANie" in place of it.

GeneticKiss 08.04.2009 03:09 PM

If some company wanted to use my band's music in a commerical, I'd be pretty amused.

But then again, Garnier have been using a pessimistic rant (Transplants' "Diamonds and Guns") to sell shampoo, so I guess anything's possible...

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 03:09 PM

whatever energy a song has in the world is immediately diluted by it's inclusion in a commercial aired for the masses and absoprbed by countless thousands more than would ever actually listen to the record.
just my feelings about it.

I loved when Yoko sued the fucking shit out of Nike for using revolution to sell fucking sweatshop sneakers

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 03:10 PM

If I had a band I WOULD DEFINITELY CARE

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 03:13 PM

You'd definitely turn down tons of money to have a song you wrote be heard by tons of people in a harmless advertisement? That's respectful but... uhhh...

The point of making music is to make yourself happy with music. Of course, most people want to reach a broad audience... unless you're Jandek, most bands want to advertise to an extent. This is just part of the "Bizness".

I highly doubt people are going to think of jeans every time they think of Sunn because of a 30 second snippet from a 15 minute song.

Rob, would you shut down the people who make fanmade music videos and post them to youtube? "Oh noes, my music is overlayed over some anime bullshit, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT! IT HAS A MILLION HITS, TOO -- FUCK THE GUY WHO MADE THIS GAY SHIT!"

Most bands are just happy to have their music heard, in any context or capacity, regardless of the situation...

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 03:13 PM

Hey, I had a thought!...Isn't Sunn (the band) just an advertisement for Sunn amps anyway?

And Merzbow is an advertisement for the sound it makes when you flush your radio down a toilet while being fucked by an elephant.

nicfit 08.04.2009 03:14 PM

I bet Handel lost a lot of fans after that Levi's commercial.

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 03:18 PM

he did. No one gives a fuck about his 200th anniversary this year.

Handel went down the tubes after that commercial.

atsonic (like the new avatar BTW) I do not thing it is harmless at all. There is a reason bands like sonic youth do not "lease" their fucking ART to marketing assholes trying to co-opt their "cool" to sell some bullshit product man.

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 03:20 PM

They did lease their music, though. They have songs in shitty video games like Guitar Hero and that shitty Starbucks shithole. I'm still not going to think of plastic guitars or mocha lattés when I listen to 'em. But who knows -- someone might associate Kool THing was "STAR POWER!" (not the song but the guitar hero thing...). But, even better -- SY made lots of money from it, a lot more people know who they are, and a lot more people are exposed to good music.

GeneticKiss 08.04.2009 03:25 PM

If we were a political band trying to make some sort of statement, I'd probably care more, but...

I think if you honestly get into music, you won't associate songs with products. I'm not afraid to admit that I was one of those people that thought Lust for Life was a jingle for Carnival Cruises; but I didn't know shit about music at the time, so I'll forgive myself. I first heard the Smiths' "How Soon Is Now?" in a Nissan commerical, but I don't associate the song with cars, since I've gotten into the band's music.

I think it depends on what song you use. If it's a song that's old or obscure or both, then it's a little interesting (I was pretty amused to hear "Pictures of You" in a commerical for HP photo printers), but if you use a song that's current and/or plastered all over the radio and everyone knows that the song has absolutely nothing to do with the product being advertised (case in point: whatever company was using the Smashing Pumpkins' "Today"), then it just makes the company look stupid, greedy, etc.

nicfit 08.04.2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I loved when Yoko sued the fucking shit out of Nike for using revolution to sell fucking sweatshop sneakers


As far as I know, Apple Records sued nike for that.
Yoko gave permission to use "instant karma" a few years later.

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 03:29 PM

Great songs are used in shitty movies all the time. Great songs are used in shitty video games all the time. Great songs are used in shitty commercials all the time.

I dunno, I can ignore all that shit and just enjoy the great song without thinking about the other bullshit. But that's just me.

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 03:30 PM

I turn down the vidja game music and play my own.

I can ignore it easily, but I still hate it wih the rage of a thousand supermassive black holes.

nicfit 08.04.2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
he did. No one gives a fuck about his 200th anniversary this year.


you're a good 50 years off.

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 03:33 PM

see how little people care about handel?

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 03:34 PM

all I'm saying is that selling out to marketing is a slippery slope, and it runs only one direction.

nicfit 08.04.2009 03:34 PM

if you are the people, then you're right.

atsonicpark 08.04.2009 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I turn down the vidja game music and play my own.

I can ignore it easily, but I still hate it wih the rage of a thousand supermassive black holes.


In all seriousness, Unsane - Scrape made me kinda want to take up skateboarding!

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 03:37 PM

that was a cool video. but imagine how suck it would ahve been to hear Scrape used instead as background music for a Target commercial featuring skating kids selling back to school clothes?

Rob Instigator 08.04.2009 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
if you are the people, then you're right.


Handel is the dope shit.


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