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Moshe 11.13.2019 01:48 PM

Lee Ranaldo & Raül Refree - Names of North End Women
 
https://mute.ffm.to/NONEW

Moshe 11.13.2019 01:49 PM

https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/...d-raul-refree/

greenlight 11.13.2019 04:21 PM

is it coming out on mute?

so what do you guys think of this track? I am kind of confused.

Chris Lawrence 11.13.2019 06:31 PM

first impression: very impressive. love the sound!

AlSonic 11.14.2019 09:29 AM

https://www.barbican.org.uk/whats-on...do-raul-refree
Lee Ranaldo & Raül Refree

Tue 7 Apr 2020, 19:30
Milton Court Concert Hall, Guildhall School of Music & Drama
Barbican Centre‎, Silk St
EC2Y 8DS
London, UK

_tunic_ 11.14.2019 03:38 PM

I'm also confused a bit, doesn't sound like Lee (as in not a guitar-driven song), not even the vocals, I double-checked the title to see if it was really him. But I do like it.


Here are some more dates:

https://www.eventbrite.be/e/lee-rana...f55c-265010541
Sunday April 5
Brugge, BE @ Concertgebouw Brugge - Kamermuziekzaal


https://www.tivolivredenburg.nl/agen...ee-06-04-2020/
Monday April 6
Utrecht, NL @ Tivoli / Helling

greenlight 11.14.2019 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _tunic_
https://www.tivolivredenburg.nl/agen...ee-06-04-2020/
Monday April 6
Utrecht, NL @ Tivoli / Helling


I like Utrecht so much.

Tivoli is such a strange, but interesting how should I call it, complex, but never knew Muziekcentrum Verderburg was demolished to make a way for the Tivoli.

Rob Instigator 11.14.2019 04:29 PM

I like this track. It is like Xiu Xiu grew older and wiser.......and Paul Simon joined.....

_tunic_ 11.14.2019 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenlight
I like Utrecht so much.

Tivoli is such a strange, but interesting how should I call it, complex, but never knew Muziekcentrum Verderburg was demolished to make a way for the Tivoli.

It is actually not demolished. The big hall is what used to be Vredenburg, around 2014 it got renovated and on top of and next to it the other halls were built. It's now called TivoliVredenburg, because the two venues were merged.
See/translate the history oage for more details

Now it gets confusing. Lee's concert will be at a different venue named De Helling, it's sort of a subsidiary venue

Chris Lawrence 11.15.2019 02:47 AM

This thread took a weird turn. Also, the spam situation is so bad that I find myself checking links in posts by even the most credible contributors...


Interesting that Raül is co-credited. I loved The Dust, but I think Lee's collaboration with Raül has opened some really interesting doors, sonically and structurally. This new track is a perfect example of that!

The Soup Nazi 11.17.2019 12:33 AM

Haven't listened to the new track yet. Am waiting to receive my shrinkwrapped copy at the end of 2020's Q1 or summat. Alright — I've seen Lee perform live three times (four if you count a full soundcheck which was rocking and at one point hilarious; in any case it's a pathetic number compared to the experience of most people on this board, I guess): once with Sonic Youth a few months before The Eternal came out; then with The Dust (Alan Licht, Steve Shelley and the late great Tim Luntzel) shortly before Last Night On Earth "dropped" :rolleyes:; and the third time as the Electric Trim Trio (with Raül Refree and Booker Stardrum).

The SY show was solid and imperial, a snapshot of where they were at that point: finishing the Rather Ripped cycle, coming out of the Daydream Nation revisited gigs, introducing tunes like "Calming The Snake", and throwing in "the hits" for good measure ("The Burning Spear", "Expressway To Yr. Skull", "Schizophrenia", "Kool Thing", "100%", "Bull In The Heather"); nothing from the Washing Machine to Sonic Nurse years, but what was I going to do, complain? First time they'd ever been to my country, motherfuckers! And they would eventually do only one more show here: the penultimate date of the tour from hell (which is to say, their penultimate date ever), a gig I didn't attend because it was part of one of those atrocious death-of-art events with a filthy load of bullcrap acts that don't have jack to do with each other or with ANYTHING except the mookish "I was there" factor. (If you've watched In Doubt, Shadow Him!, you've seen Lee saying to Mark Ibold that the very last show, the one in Brazil, was in a "shitty big giant festival" — the very same could be said of their next-to-last appearance. If only we had a Big Ears and/or a Solid Sound…).

The Dust performance, in a much more intimate joint, was finally what I'd been waiting for ages: LR as a singer-songwriter with a killer "backing" band, covering Neil Young and Talking Heads (and, just let me add this, playing the best R.E.M.-type song R.E.M. would never be able to come up with again after New Adventures In Hi-Fi, the absolutely wonderful "Angles"). Moving to the core musically and personally, as I got the chance to give Lee a made-up present (I suppose that made it a "fake news" present, before the term got hijacked — remember we used to say "Faux News"?).

Last year, in an even smaller venue (which I'm all about, mind you, but I also think Lee deserves to play in the most elegant and majestic theater in town), I was also able to hand Mr. Ranaldo a present and then witness the Electric Trim Trio at full fucking blast. And NOW —

 


— is where this babbling post (thank you for reading this far) connects with what's been said on this thread: great as those first two occasions were, I had never seen Lee and one of his bands explode with such total sonic abandon. A big part of the reason behind it (or in front of it, rather!) was Refree: I immediately had to reconsider what I thought I'd heard on the Electric Trim album, because as a Nels Cline junkie I assumed all those guitar rave-ups were NC's. Refree "raved-up" like a BEAST on the six-string live (don't ask me what model it was; unless the thing says Rickenbacker and has a big number printed on it I won't be able to tell jack), and as if that wasn't enough he banged on the keyboards/synths/gadgets like Eno intending to get in a fight onstage with Ferry circa 1973. Guy knocked my socks off.

Reviewing Metal Machine Music for Creem in 1976, Lester Bangs wrote, "If you ever thought feedback was the best thing that ever happened to the guitar, well, Lou just got rid of the guitars". Dunno whether Lee and Raül have literally gotten rid of the guitars this time around, but if the sound follows that raw/furious and yet heartwarming "electronic" path, you can sure as fucking shit count me IN. And if it doesn't, count me in anywayya think I'm gonna reject such an effort by these cats?

The Soup Nazi 11.17.2019 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
anyway what was this thread about originally?


The fact that Lee has seldom been more bitchen.

!@#$%! 11.19.2019 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _tunic_
I wouldn't even know them all of my own country and to be honest I've no clue what's the name of Australia 's current president (sorry)

it’s crocodile dundee, duh

everyone knows that

he retired from knife fighting and ran for office. been there for the last 3 decades AT LEAST.

anyway, speaking of deadheads, did i hear some mickey hart influences in this lee track?

i like all of it except for the chorus thing. just personally i am not cray about choruses. choirs? people singing the fuck together. it’s a defect of mine.

but love the percussion, i do

The Soup Nazi 11.19.2019 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
ah, poor lee, betrayed by his own fans


We must cut it out (here), I agree.

!@#$%! 11.19.2019 11:46 PM

anyway i was trying to say i fucking love the percussion on this track. it’s at the same time sparse but lively. great use of silence between each beat or clang or bang or. and at the end when it picks up, it’s like that “ah! bright wings” hopkins line.

the 3 minute edit loses that best part! long version or gtfo. hahaha.

more previews por favor. i mean prelistens. i mean listens.

february is far away. a birthday thing?

The Soup Nazi 12.25.2019 10:54 PM

Lovely artwork:

 


Already pre-orderable from the dark side of the Force:

https://www.amazon.com/Names-North-W...J5C/ref=sr_1_1

Lee is Free 12.26.2019 03:37 AM

Here's a link to our new "mood board" - some casuallly filmed interviews and stuff - this will be updated pretty regularly I think...

https://namesofnorthendwomen.com/

Here's the recently released video for the title track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

The album is out Feb 21, next song/video drops Jan 13(?). It's called LIGHT YEARS OUT. Shows will begin in Europe in April. The album is 8 songs, new directions + experiemnts, I hope you like it-!

--LR

The Soup Nazi 12.26.2019 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee is Free
Here's a link to our new "mood board" - some casuallly filmed interviews and stuff - this will be updated pretty regularly I think...

https://namesofnorthendwomen.com/

Here's the recently released video for the title track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

The album is out Feb 21, next song/video drops Jan 13(?). It's called LIGHT YEARS OUT. Shows will begin in Europe in April. The album is 8 songs, new directions + experiemnts, I hope you like it-!

--LR


Thanks Lee, the board looks great! ...And the room with the books instantly reminded me a LOT of David Bowie's 2016 Unbound "instaminiseries". In fact, they look so similar it's downright spooky:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ23vPQ2A3A

greenlight 12.27.2019 05:53 PM

thanks for sharing Lee.

Chris Lawrence 12.28.2019 02:34 AM

The description on Amazon sounds very intriguing...really looking forward to this one!


Lee Ranaldo & Raül Refree have announced details of their new album, Names of North End Women, available February 21 on indie exclusive white vinyl, standard black vinyl, CD and digital platforms via Mute. Ranaldo and Refree worked together on Ranaldo’s last solo album, Electric Trim. Soon after, the pair returned to the studio to record the follow up and realized that the product would become what Ranaldo describes as “the beginning of a new partnership, a new configuration.” For Ranaldo – a cofounder of Sonic Youth and one of the greatest guitarists of his generation as ranked by both Rolling Stone and Spin – and Refree, an artist reinventing traditional flamenco guitar (his album with Rosalía continues to grow internationally), this is an album that features tracks with little or no guitar. Instead, they composed using marimba and vibraphone, samplers, a vintage 2-inch Studer tape recorder and a modified cassette machine Ranaldo had used in performances 25 years earlier. “We were mixing in all these strange analog sounds from old cassette tapes, dealing with tape hiss; using very new technology and very old technology and mixing them together,” remembers Ranaldo. The words came in a process akin to the music, a collagist philosophy prevailing, as Ranaldo recomposed poems from his archives, wrote new pieces and incorporated lines sent by Jonathan Lethem, who’d helped pen the songs of Electric Trim. The result is an album alive with the electric crackle of experimentalism, yet satisfying as a collection of songs. The album’s title came from an experience Ranaldo had walking through a neighborhood in the North End of Winnipeg, Manitoba. All the streets were named after women: Lydia, Kate, Dagmar, Juno, etc – first names only, which implied something anonymous, or universal. Who these women are or were is not indicated, which lends their choice a certain mystery. Ranaldo jotted the names down, in poem format, and explains, “somehow it became an impetus for the lyrics in terms of the people that drift in and out of one’s life, some significant, some fleeting.” “This album loosens the bonds from the idea of what songs can be, and both Raül and I are excited to see where we can push it further,”

greenlight 12.28.2019 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
The description on Amazon sounds very intriguing...really looking forward to this one!


Indeed. though I wonder how they going to perform them songs live. looking forward to it as well.

greenlight 01.13.2020 11:11 AM

new one out. wow.

http://mute.ffm.to/NONEW

Moshe 02.16.2020 02:21 AM

https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2020/02...RdejGKYK6nQDUg

greenlight 02.17.2020 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshe


thank you!

Moshe 02.18.2020 03:53 AM

New album LP available at Newbury Comics-white vinyl and signed poster:

https://www.newburycomics.com/produc...GYFB_vi2r4Facc

The Soup Nazi 02.18.2020 10:27 PM


I also noticed they have a CD version of Rock N Roll Consciousness "with a 4x4 art card signed by Thurston Moore". My copy didn't come with that - damn!

Moshe 02.25.2020 06:17 AM

Did anyone get a chance to listen to it?

https://mute.ffm.to/NONEW?fbclid=IwA...mAfvasUWlshJJc

greenlight 02.25.2020 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshe
Did anyone get a chance to listen to it?

https://mute.ffm.to/NONEW?fbclid=IwA...mAfvasUWlshJJc


not yet. vinyl is on the way, so I am going to wait for a vinyl listen session. should be here any moment.

you?

Moshe 02.25.2020 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenlight
not yet. vinyl is on the way, so I am going to wait for a vinyl listen session. should be here any moment.

you?

Not yet

Moshe 02.25.2020 11:41 AM

https://www.spin.com/2020/02/lee-ran...outh-projects/

The Soup Nazi 02.25.2020 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshe


Quote:

SPIN: Lee, I wanted to ask you about Sonic Youth’s Live In Moscow (April 1989) album that came out this month. How do things work with archival projects now that the band’s no longer active, are you involved in picking things out for release or is there someone tending to all of that?

LR: We have a couple of engineers and archivist people that we work with. But we’re still all interested in it, we’ve been maintaining a massive archive that continues to grow. Steve Shelley has been really active in it, and the rest of us a little bit less so, but I’ve been pretty active in helping put together the last bunch of packages that come out. In this case, this guy from Russia just said: “Hey, I’ve got this tape of the show” that we had never heard before, and he wanted to put it out. We kind of batted the idea back and forth of whether we wanted to go that route, and in the end, we gave him our blessings to do it. We’re working on an archival project around Sister right now, which is a massive thing we’ve been working on for a while. And two or three other things as well, something around NYC Ghosts & Flowers, and something around a particular concert we did at the Pompidou Center in Paris with Brigitte Fontaine and Areski [Belkacem] that we’ve been trying to cut the legal tape on and release for like a decade.

SPIN: So would these primarily be live recordings or would those projects involve studio outtakes as well?

LR: A bit of both. The Sister package has an 80-minute CD worth of demos and rehearsals and things like that, and the stuff with Brigitte involves a record full of studio tracks plus a live performance. This stuff is stuff that we wanna see come out, but it’s not slated or approved yet. Live tracks for sure, we’ve got tons of live tapes. Often times we would make records before we went out and tested material live, and material would transform in radical ways live. For instance, NYC Ghosts & Flowers, we’re working on a track-by-track live rendition of that record that has a totally different vibe than the way those songs turned out on the record.


Holy Molly Parker Posey...
:eek:

Chris Lawrence 02.26.2020 01:37 AM

Wow that all sounds awesome!!


Can't say the same for "Names of North End Women" as my local shop hasn't got it YET...but I'm really, really looking forward to hearing it.



And now I'm really, really looking forward to hearing everything Lee mentions in that SY blurb...!

greenlight 02.26.2020 04:00 PM

wow.

Moshe 02.28.2020 08:21 AM

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...d-women-r.html

The Soup Nazi 02.28.2020 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshe


Positive review, but "alternative tribute fare such as 2012's Between the Times and the Tides" sounds rather nasty, doesn't it? Fuck that; that album is beautiful.

greenlight 02.29.2020 04:12 PM

heard it yesterday. beutiful album.

Moshe 03.01.2020 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenlight
heard it yesterday. beutiful album.

I expected something similar to Electric Trim (Which I loved) but this one is so different, strange, experimental and beautiful.

greenlight 03.01.2020 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshe
I expected something similar to Electric Trim (Which I loved) but this one is so different, strange, experimental and beautiful.


totaly different. and that is whats so strange about it. he will definitely make more straight forward electric guitar stuff in the future I am sure.

this one different. I like it.

_slavo_ 03.03.2020 07:07 AM

I'm intrigued to hear this.

nicfit 03.04.2020 03:30 PM

I absolutely love this album.


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