Kurt Cobain Death Investigation Reopened
 

Seems reasonable, though just a window dressing as Nirvana becomes "classic rock" and an entire new generation discovers some of the controversies. Obviously Tom Grant was a sleaze-ball, and I don't buy for a second 99% of his arguments, but there is one thing, if the premise of Dead Men Don't Pull Triggers is correct, and Kurt Cobain did indeed have in instantly incapacitating level of heroin in his system, then there is definitely evidence of foul play of some kind. Murder? Not necessarily. The statistics were telling, the overwhelming majority of dead bodies found in the state of Washington with even a sizable fraction of the blood morphine levels stated to be found in the body of Kurt Cobain not only died of overdoses, but were most frequently found with needles still in their arms.. How does such folks then shoot themselves?

The data and conversion rates could be wrong. It could all be a misunderstanding. Shit, Kurt could have even been a rare breed of functional addicts whose system could have tolerated such high doses. However, all signs aside from the shotgun blast to the head are typical of "golden shot" intentional overdoses. Kurt fit the bill by every definition, and many addicts take this route to end their lives. If Kurt really did have a lethal dose? Then what..

i still luve cobain. i'm a grown man,

This was a rumor. The case was not reopened. All that happened was several rolls of undeveloped film were dug up and developed. Two of them have already been released...just drug paraphernalia. Still eerie in a way but whatever.

Kurt did drugs?

Hay if Gary Webb can commit suicide by shooting himself twice in the head, certainly Cobain could kill himself while passed out on dope, it makes perfect sense and anyone who think differently must be some kind of tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. He was not killed by certain people for his millions of dollars, we know that is a crackpot theory, people never kill other people for vast amounts of wealth; and he certainly was not killed because he was a strong influence over millions of young people and might have voiced an opinion that wasn't provided by his PR or corporate controllers; no one has ever been killed for that reason by the State cointelpro cough cough cough.

I always get teary when I think about this guy.

Who, Gary Webb?

Had never heard of Gary Webb. Now I have.
A friend's grandfather committed suicide. He took some pills, and, as he really wanted to leave this world, he went to the river, slipped in it. To make sure.
I have never ODed, nor shot myself in the head. Neither have I sampled my blood on a hourly basis to check it.
I still believe he is dead and that his music is good. And at the same time, I still believe that people in power don't want me to have a cigar with them (mostly because they don't know me).

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fuck. this statue is worse than I could have imagined. why the fuck would they put an acoustic guitar? fuck unplugged. That shit ruined Nirvana. fucking folk music.

and that is the worst sculpted guitar I have ever seen.

Look how BIG this stupid thing is

You're crazy, while that and all these fucking depressive statues are so terrible that Kurt would laugh, Unplugged is probably the single best Nirvana performance ever recorded.. It had talent, originality, humble obscurity yet balanced with all the "radio hits", showcased new material that Kurt personally liked, involved friends and gave them a brief spotlight appearance, and also demonstrated that sincere fun that Nirvana always seemed to have and which made Kurt's suicide note all the more surprising. Unplugged is an epic record, top-10 all time, any genre, any era, any band, period.

look, the case is solved, there are no questions, nothing to see here. do not wonder how 50 Rohypnol pills make it into Kurt’s champagne in Rome

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for hippies ;)

", Unplugged is probably the single best Nirvana performance ever recorded.. It had talent, originality, humble obscurity yet balanced with all the "radio hits","

It was this shit that was the best explanation of him commtting suicide in my mind - to wake up and realize you performed such weak shit for MTV, I wanted to kill myself listening to it. Nothing is more weak and in service to the Spectacle than the kind of numbing down acoustic performances create. Unplugged was the point Nirvana became a corporate tool. Up until then they were a harmless heavy rock band that weren't particularly heavy or original.

let the hate begin

For once I agree with tesla69's bullshit opinions. One of the only times Nirvana actually let themselves feed into the money grabbing MTV alterna-rock explosion.

Unplugged was/is a show for hard rockers to show how suft-ass weak they can be when they play their "rawk" as if they were folkie singer-songwriters.

Nirvana's songs, without the distortion and amplification and balls to the walls RAGE they exhibited in their live shows, are BORING. There, I've said it.

at least I have opinions - you may call them bullshit but the government is recording your phone calls, the government is tracking your movements, the government is storing all this data forever and the governments are poisoning you with toxic flouride.

i have to disagree with SUCh. Unplugged doesn't hold up to a second listen nor deserves to be documented on tape or vid. loved it when i first saw it but doesen't hold any wieght then or now.

I just don't understand all this vitriol against Unplugged. If you look at the bootlegs and "lost" recordings its clear that Kurt had been playing acoustic music since 1986! Its clear that he had intentions to possibly release acoustic music through Nirvana or solo after 1993. Its clear that the acoustic guitar was part of how he created and practiced music. In other words, it wasn't "selling out" at all, if anything, quite the opposite, it seems to me that perhaps Kurt seized the opportunity to do what he had been wanting to do for a long time, present his music acoustically to a wider audience. Plus, it was a radical departure from what people "expected" of Nirvana, and considering how much Kurt was starting to resent how the mainstream explosion of his music was attracting "fans" who were the kind of people his music was written to mock (jocks, hipsters, boneheads, honkies), it also seems that perhaps he did Unplugged to intentionally disappoint these people and shake them off the bandwagon. Clearly looking at how much you guys are shitting on it, I dare say it worked ;)

Also, rob, ALL of Nirvana is boring. You either like it or you don't.

im not a jock nor do i think Nirvana did it to offend. i just think it's weak and it made them a little money. if they had something to prove they did it long ago by kicking against hair bands and lame music.

Haha this must be self-parody at this point, surely.

I didn't say offend, I meant more like challenge. Again, Kurt had been writing, playing, and performing acoustic music for many years before Unplugged. It seems clear from the set-list, guest selection, and overall ambiance that as with most things Nirvana, the band was tongue in cheek making fun of the entire thing while also abusing the privilege to present some of their different material and taste in covers. (a) ALL the material presented at Unplugged had been performed or recorded acoustically previously in stage shows, radio appearances, or demos and (b) all of the covers aside from Meat Puppets had also been recent parts of 1992-1993 tour set lists. In other words, Nirvana wasn't just mailing it in to collect easy money, quite the opposite, they as with so many other instances were abusing the spotlight and MTV hype machine to almost make fun of itself. They did this with their music videos, with their TV spot appearances, with their interviews, with their award show spots.. Nirvana really was like 3 years of double-entendre against mainstream music, and like you said, destroying the hallmarks of the 1980s sound. What you see in the antics and tour footage from 1991: The Year That Punk Broke is our introduction to who Nirvana were, and Unplugged is like the pinnacle of it all. It is clear that even if Kurt hadn't committed suicide, Nirvana was going to break up. Kurt had several other ideas, other projects, even other artistic media in mind to which In Utero was a preview. That, and by 1994 heroin was destroying Kurt and the spotlight was getting to Dave and Krist clearly didn't know where he fit in between..

Depression killed Kurt, not acoustic music. Just look at the state of his houses. That's no home for the mentally stable.

I was laughing at articles mentioning that Kurt "nervous about the acoustic performance played through an amp and effects pedals" as if it were a Linus security blanket. Dude used the pedal on ONE song, and it was for a particular effect, one which was rather haunting and perfectly matched. For the rest of the songs? Duh. Kurt was playing through an amp as a monitor, acoustic music is TERRIBLE without having good monitor..

drone

i feel ambivalent about nirvana, as a business it was very successful but it also destroyed the life of someone. some good music, but a really awful cult of christ like reverence for a celebrity. the whole thing was at best a very successful and compromised disaster. the idea it struck some massive blow against corporate america is a bit stupid.

Like I told rob, duh, Nirvana IS boring, you either dig it or you don't. If you don't dig it, why post on this thread?

Also, its April 5, Kurt discussions in commemoration are obviously appropriate..

and yes, Nirvana has plenty of "underground cred" or is inviting the Meat Puppets to play a few songs and cover Huddie Ledbetter and a Vaselines cover of a cover really all that mainstream?

if you knew how big a nirvana fan i was ... seriously.