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Genteel Death 04.13.2014 04:50 PM

Kim Gordon: Going Solo After Sonic Youth, and Why She Identifies With Girls
 
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ith-girls.html

whorefrost 04.13.2014 05:13 PM

Thank ye

!@#$%! 04.13.2014 09:57 PM

ah, she's fucking fantastic.

she's better than ever now that she doesn't have any dead weight holding her back. ha!

(i also like lena dunham the writer-- but that's a different story)

thanks for that link

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.13.2014 10:46 PM

Wow.. this whole fucking exhibit is so damned "West LA" it makes me sick! I want some no-wave to destroy this..


I prefer the eastside scene, we're grimier but have less pretension. No diss to Kim, propz for doing here thang, but clearly she is hanging out with the side of LA she is better off avoiding, and I speak from intimate experience in the LA art scene :/

Quote:

'When am I going to be over that?' And I almost resisted it because I felt like once I decided who I was, I shouldn't trust that—I would be comfortable and I wouldn't be creative. It's this feeling of 'you're never there.'

I agree completely, its why I am totally proud to be a saboteur in my own life, whenever I get to comfortable I start not trusting myself. I do better in chaos..

Quote:

"I mean, I always wanted to be an artist, but I didn't know how to get there and do that. Now I have a daughter who's 19, in her second year of art school, and I find her and her friends fascinating. They seem so smart and so together. So much more together than I ever was."

I know EXACTLY what she means.. don't kids fuck around and fuck up anymore? Seems not so much.. When I was 19 I was making so many bad decisions that its not cliched to say, "I'm lucky to be alive."

tesla69 04.18.2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
s.. don't kids fuck around and fuck up anymore? Seems not so much.. When I was 19 I was making so many bad decisions that its not cliched to say, "I'm lucky to be alive."


in nyc it depends on your skin color and class - the racist and unconstitutional stop and frisk pogrom under Bloomberg was initiated to ensure a large percentage of brown and black NYC children would be excluded from voter roles, college scholarships and public housing due to a marijuana violation on their record.

but when you're a rich kid in tex-ass, the corrupt judge lets you off because jail might traumatize the nice rich person.

ann ashtray 04.19.2014 01:35 AM

Speaking of Kim, I saw her earlier today. She looked great. Kind of bumped into her at random while out eating.

tesla69 04.21.2014 01:20 PM

If yer in NYC today, you can watch them film! hoo-boy!

http://www.boweryboogie.com/2014/04/...es-soho-today/

evollove 04.22.2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Speaking of Kim, I saw her earlier today. She looked great. Kind of bumped into her at random while out eating.


Did she mention us?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.22.2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Did she mention us?


 


The short answer? ...no ;)

ann ashtray 04.23.2014 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Did she mention us?


I didn't speak to her. It was kind of odd. Earlier in the day I picked up the Body/Head record. On my way home I decided to stop into a neighborhood restaurant for some lunch. I was sitting at one end of the bar nursing a bourbon + waiting on my food, and for whatever reason glanced toward my left and noticed her taking a seat at the other end of the bar. She was with some dude (I speculate I know who he was, but would rather not state on a public forum..which I'll explain in a minute. In all fairness he was sitting on the other side of her so I didn't get too great of a look at him). The bar tender/server working the bar didn't seem to notice her, so I pulled the record I'd purchased earlier out of my bag and showed him. He was a bit taken aback/etc. A "holy fuck" moment for us both, no doubt. Anyway. I didn't want to ask her to sign my record while she was eating. I'm just not that sort of rude. She definitely noticed the fact that I'd recognized her, however. She seemed to attempt some semi covert sort of ordeal when leaving. The guy got up and left a minute or so before her, and then she darted out the door after him. It seemed she didn't want it to appear as if they were together. I don't know. Apparently she's a terrible tipper, which I found to be kind of funny. Either way...that was it. She's the only member of Sonic Youth I've never spoken with. She has a presence I find to be a bit intimidating, and aside from that I find her to be generally uninteresting (even though I do obviously love her music).

Peace.

loop cat 04.24.2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
ah, she's fucking fantastic.

she's better than ever now that she doesn't have any dead weight holding her back. ha!

(i also like lena dunham the writer-- but that's a different story)

thanks for that link


 

halgreen 04.24.2014 09:53 PM

killer pic

loop cat 04.25.2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by halgreen
killer pic


 

Mortte Jousimo 04.26.2014 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
I didn't speak to her. It was kind of odd. Earlier in the day I picked up the Body/Head record. On my way home I decided to stop into a neighborhood restaurant for some lunch. I was sitting at one end of the bar nursing a bourbon + waiting on my food, and for whatever reason glanced toward my left and noticed her taking a seat at the other end of the bar. She was with some dude (I speculate I know who he was, but would rather not state on a public forum..which I'll explain in a minute. In all fairness he was sitting on the other side of her so I didn't get too great of a look at him). The bar tender/server working the bar didn't seem to notice her, so I pulled the record I'd purchased earlier out of my bag and showed him. He was a bit taken aback/etc. A "holy fuck" moment for us both, no doubt. Anyway. I didn't want to ask her to sign my record while she was eating. I'm just not that sort of rude. She definitely noticed the fact that I'd recognized her, however. She seemed to attempt some semi covert sort of ordeal when leaving. The guy got up and left a minute or so before her, and then she darted out the door after him. It seemed she didn't want it to appear as if they were together. I don't know. Apparently she's a terrible tipper, which I found to be kind of funny. Either way...that was it. She's the only member of Sonic Youth I've never spoken with. She has a presence I find to be a bit intimidating, and aside from that I find her to be generally uninteresting (even though I do obviously love her music).

Peace.

I understand artists who donīt want to be in touch with their fans. Well, Lee seem to want to be in touch with his fans. He came to the bar after gig to talk with fans (he said he will come after the gig). Of course there were so many who wanted to talk with him, so I didnīt try. I just said to the drummer how great he was when the situation was like it was (no-one seemed to want to talk about the other members of Dust).

halgreen 04.26.2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
I didn't speak to her. It was kind of odd. Earlier in the day I picked up the Body/Head record. On my way home I decided to stop into a neighborhood restaurant for some lunch. I was sitting at one end of the bar nursing a bourbon + waiting on my food, and for whatever reason glanced toward my left and noticed her taking a seat at the other end of the bar. She was with some dude (I speculate I know who he was, but would rather not state on a public forum..which I'll explain in a minute. In all fairness he was sitting on the other side of her so I didn't get too great of a look at him). The bar tender/server working the bar didn't seem to notice her, so I pulled the record I'd purchased earlier out of my bag and showed him. He was a bit taken aback/etc. A "holy fuck" moment for us both, no doubt. Anyway. I didn't want to ask her to sign my record while she was eating. I'm just not that sort of rude. She definitely noticed the fact that I'd recognized her, however. She seemed to attempt some semi covert sort of ordeal when leaving. The guy got up and left a minute or so before her, and then she darted out the door after him. It seemed she didn't want it to appear as if they were together. I don't know. Apparently she's a terrible tipper, which I found to be kind of funny. Either way...that was it. She's the only member of Sonic Youth I've never spoken with. She has a presence I find to be a bit intimidating, and aside from that I find her to be generally uninteresting (even though I do obviously love her music).

Peace.


There's no excuse for terrible tips.

stophereyes 04.26.2014 04:29 PM

Kim Gordon and Bill Nace upcoming appearance in NY...

http://poetryproject.org/sat-53-spec...myles-friends/

ann ashtray 04.27.2014 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by halgreen
There's no excuse for terrible tips.


Agreed.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.27.2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by halgreen
There's no excuse for terrible tips.


What about terrible service?

scott v 04.28.2014 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
I didn't speak to her. It was kind of odd. Earlier in the day I picked up the Body/Head record. On my way home I decided to stop into a neighborhood restaurant for some lunch. I was sitting at one end of the bar nursing a bourbon + waiting on my food, and for whatever reason glanced toward my left and noticed her taking a seat at the other end of the bar. She was with some dude (I speculate I know who he was, but would rather not state on a public forum..which I'll explain in a minute. In all fairness he was sitting on the other side of her so I didn't get too great of a look at him). The bar tender/server working the bar didn't seem to notice her, so I pulled the record I'd purchased earlier out of my bag and showed him. He was a bit taken aback/etc. A "holy fuck" moment for us both, no doubt. Anyway. I didn't want to ask her to sign my record while she was eating. I'm just not that sort of rude. She definitely noticed the fact that I'd recognized her, however. She seemed to attempt some semi covert sort of ordeal when leaving. The guy got up and left a minute or so before her, and then she darted out the door after him. It seemed she didn't want it to appear as if they were together. I don't know. Apparently she's a terrible tipper, which I found to be kind of funny. Either way...that was it. She's the only member of Sonic Youth I've never spoken with. She has a presence I find to be a bit intimidating, and aside from that I find her to be generally uninteresting (even though I do obviously love her music).

Peace.



Interesting viewpoint that I seem to share myself, also never met Kim but have met Lee and Thurston (never met Steve though could have easily). from what I've seen and heard it does seem that she has this intimidating persona, a non-engaging manner to the fans... completely understandable, that open personality is definitely not for everyone. I loosely know Bill Nace from a friend who performs with him semi-regularily and from what I've heard anyone who has really met Kim pretty much says the opposite.

Savage Clone 04.30.2014 11:10 PM

I saw body/head a while back. I liked five minutes of it well enough.

Moshe 05.01.2014 12:06 AM

http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/04/...sons-i-learned

Chris Lawrence 05.01.2014 02:31 AM

I don't read every interview, but is Kim the only one who consistently refers to Sonic Youth as "over"?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.01.2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
I don't read every interview, but is Kim the only one who consistently refers to Sonic Youth as "over"?


I think she might be the only one they every really ask that question to point blank, I haven't really seen Lee or Thurston address that question directly..

I think certain biological realities of age have caught up with the band, and while they're ALL making and performing music elsewhere I think they've each looked back on thirty years and said, "Maybe it was enough?"

Rob Instigator 05.01.2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
I don't read every interview, but is Kim the only one who consistently refers to Sonic Youth as "over"?


I read every interview and YES.

Lee will not be definitive, deflecting the topic by discussing the back catalog of recordings live and in studio.

No one seems to ever interview Steve.

and Thurston avoids the topic like the plague.

Genteel Death 05.01.2014 02:23 PM

I wonder why.

ann ashtray 05.02.2014 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I read every interview and YES.

Lee will not be definitive, deflecting the topic by discussing the back catalog of recordings live and in studio.

No one seems to ever interview Steve.

and Thurston avoids the topic like the plague.


Thurston has said everything he needs to say, which is by far more than he should be expected to say. I mean, what more is there to say? He made a common mistake most adults find themselves dealing with at some point. I think he's handled it rather well from what I can gather. I find it confusing (as well as amusing) that some fans feel as if they are owed more than what they've been given. You'd think 30 years of music and touring would be enough, but no! They need the inside scoop on situations they themselves have likely been involved in, and certainly many of their parents. PEOPLE CHEAT! Is it ok, no. But they do. People also steal and fart in public spaces. Sex is human nature. Human nature offers both good and bad sides. Or sides that offer more in the way of learning experiences, as I tend to prefer to view it. Moping and years of regret gets no one anywhere.


And as should be obvious, the members of SY were rather bored with the band for some time. I'm more interested in watching how their individual projects evolve than I am witnessing another "Rather Ripped" or "Eternal" (which in all fairness wasn't awful...but all things considered wasn't one of their strongest efforts by a long shot). I only feel bad for younger people and those who were never given the chance to see them. They always put on an amazing show.

I'm hard pressed to believe that there will never be another show, however. Even though I hardly care. They were a hard working band for a long time. Kim and Thurston's relationship lasted far longer than most. I'm sure they are both enjoying themselves now in ways neither have been able to in a long time. If not, they should be.

And no doubt there will be future releases. Too much unreleased recorded material for there to not be.

MellySingsDoom 05.02.2014 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Thurston has said everything he needs to say, which is by far more than he should be expected to say. I mean, what more is there to say? He made a common mistake most adults find themselves dealing with at some point. I think he's handled it rather well from what I can gather. I find it confusing (as well as amusing) that some fans feel as if they are owed more than what they've been given. You'd think 30 years of music and touring would be enough, but no! They need the inside scoop on situations they themselves have likely been involved in, and certainly many of their parents. PEOPLE CHEAT! Is it ok, no. But they do. People also steal and fart in public spaces. Sex is human nature. Human nature offers both good and bad sides. Or sides that offer more in the way of learning experiences, as I tend to prefer to view it. Moping and years of regret gets no one anywhere.


And as should be obvious, the members of SY were rather bored with the band for some time. I'm more interested in watching how their individual projects evolve than I am witnessing another "Rather Ripped" or "Eternal" (which in all fairness wasn't awful...but all things considered wasn't one of their strongest efforts by a long shot). I only feel bad for younger people and those who were never given the chance to see them. They always put on an amazing show.

I'm hard pressed to believe that there will never be another show, however. Even though I hardly care. They were a hard working band for a long time. Kim and Thurston's relationship lasted far longer than most. I'm sure they are both enjoying themselves now in ways neither have been able to in a long time. If not, they should be.

And no doubt there will be future releases. Too much unreleased recorded material for there to not be.


Very well said, there.

Rob Instigator 05.02.2014 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Thurston has said everything he needs to say, which is by far more than he should be expected to say. I mean, what more is there to say? r to view it. Moping and years of regret gets no one anywhere.
.


Swa(y), I was referring to whether Sonic Youth is broken up or will work again in the future, not about what caused T & K's breakup.

Rob Instigator 05.02.2014 08:36 AM

the indie girls can't stop grabbing Thurston's thighslapper

Mortte Jousimo 05.04.2014 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Thurston has said everything he needs to say, which is by far more than he should be expected to say. I mean, what more is there to say? He made a common mistake most adults find themselves dealing with at some point. I think he's handled it rather well from what I can gather. I find it confusing (as well as amusing) that some fans feel as if they are owed more than what they've been given. You'd think 30 years of music and touring would be enough, but no! They need the inside scoop on situations they themselves have likely been involved in, and certainly many of their parents. PEOPLE CHEAT! Is it ok, no. But they do. People also steal and fart in public spaces. Sex is human nature. Human nature offers both good and bad sides. Or sides that offer more in the way of learning experiences, as I tend to prefer to view it. Moping and years of regret gets no one anywhere.


And as should be obvious, the members of SY were rather bored with the band for some time. I'm more interested in watching how their individual projects evolve than I am witnessing another "Rather Ripped" or "Eternal" (which in all fairness wasn't awful...but all things considered wasn't one of their strongest efforts by a long shot). I only feel bad for younger people and those who were never given the chance to see them. They always put on an amazing show.

I'm hard pressed to believe that there will never be another show, however. Even though I hardly care. They were a hard working band for a long time. Kim and Thurston's relationship lasted far longer than most. I'm sure they are both enjoying themselves now in ways neither have been able to in a long time. If not, they should be.

And no doubt there will be future releases. Too much unreleased recorded material for there to not be.

I am the one who have had twice chance to see them, but never saw them. The first time their gig was 600km away from me & I havenīt got enough money. Second time there was family reasons. But if I had known 2003 was last time in Finland, I would have really tried to see them even it would be difficult.

One fact is no-one of them canīt make as great material alone as they made together in SY. Well, if they will make one tour and come to Finland (or at least in Sweden) I will be satisfied. But if they wonīt ever reunite, I just have to be satisfied. I really have enjoyed their solos althought theyīre not as great as any SY record.

ann ashtray 05.04.2014 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
I am the one who have had twice chance to see them, but never saw them. The first time their gig was 600km away from me & I havenīt got enough money. Second time there was family reasons. But if I had known 2003 was last time in Finland, I would have really tried to see them even it would be difficult.

One fact is no-one of them canīt make as great material alone as they made together in SY. Well, if they will make one tour and come to Finland (or at least in Sweden) I will be satisfied. But if they wonīt ever reunite, I just have to be satisfied. I really have enjoyed their solos althought theyīre not as great as any SY record.


I saw them four times, and not once was I disappointed. And again, I would by no means be shocked if they played again at some point. We shall see. Since the break up, I've seen Lee once, Thurston when he was touring the Demolished Thoughts material, and Kim once w/ White/Light. All three shows were great. Catch 'em if ya can, friend.

Mortte Jousimo 05.04.2014 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
I saw them four times, and not once was I disappointed. And again, I would by no means be shocked if they played again at some point. We shall see. Since the break up, I've seen Lee once, Thurston when he was touring the Demolished Thoughts material, and Kim once w/ White/Light. All three shows were great. Catch 'em if ya can, friend.

Iīve seen Kim & Ikue, CLM & Lee & Dust very recently. Kim & Ikue and Lee with Dust were just fantastic! (Only SY member I havenīt seen on stage is Steve, because he was ill in scandinavian tour) There were moments that sounded me SY! In CLM gig all the other than Thurston seemed to be bored. Also sounds were awful. But still, I would like to see SY at least once...

tesla69 11.06.2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
(i also like lena dunham the writer-- but that's a different story)


Wow, they're really going after her for her new book. Personally. I think childhood sexuality should remain in childhood, I would imagine her sister is not pleased with all this revealed. Kids do a lot of things that are best left in childhood. They're children.

Rob Instigator 11.06.2014 04:41 PM

childhood things when seen through the eyes of jaded adults can seem HORRIBLE, but it is because we add all the terrible baggage and horror we have onto it.

Lena Dunham likes to pretend she is some sort of idiot savant but she knows exactly what she is doing.


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