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!@#$%! 04.27.2015 11:38 PM

Baltimore riots
 
the baltimore sun has turned off their paywall

http://www.baltimoresun.com

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.28.2015 12:15 AM

What did people expect? Baltimore don't take no shit from chump cops.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.28.2015 12:16 AM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o_fqDy5QJ8E


Also i love how the Orioles were stupid enough not to cancel Saturday game

demonrail666 04.28.2015 04:12 AM

Cue a 1000 interviews with David Simon.

evollove 04.28.2015 06:22 AM

^ Ha! But, you know, probably more substantive than browsing Twitter.

The riot and Supreme Court same-sex arguments on the same day? Editors, radio talk show hosts and cable news producers must have successfully performed some weird ritualistic dance to the gods for this.

!@#$%! 04.28.2015 08:39 AM

you guys-- too meta

Bytor Peltor 04.28.2015 02:04 PM

I have two different friends living in the area. They've lived their less than five years, but each has neighbors who are life long residents. According to the neighbors, this little dust up is a long way from comparing to the riots of 68.



 


 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.28.2015 02:34 PM

Exactly. The media wants to make this or what happened in Ferguson scarier than what it really is. They also want to make the communities look "violent" and "inhuman" so that majority of people support the police and even begin to believe that the people there somehow deserve to get brutalized and killed by law enforcement. Fuck that

Bytor Peltor 04.28.2015 02:43 PM

According to my friends who live in the area, it sounds scary. Canceling school and baseball games is a necessary precaution until civil obedience can be restored. Mobs can be difficult to control and often turn in an instant.

YES - the media LOVES ratings no matter the plight, but there is a genuine reason for concern!

greenlight 04.28.2015 03:55 PM

I have noticed police got militarized big time in U.S. and cops became more and more "psychopatic" these days. why?
I am just afraid that all those riots (happening lately) would go too far and it would be good pre-text for marshall law one day. and that is when it would be real shit for everyone.
and why the mayor openly admits protecting and aiding riots in Baltimore btw.?
I hope it wont get any worse on both sides. too much hidden tension between cops vs society last year or so across the states.
also racism issues, gay issues, religion issues. just dividing and dividing people. what i the bigger picture behind it all?

The Soup Nazi 04.28.2015 04:29 PM

HUGE episode of The Wire last night! Kinda odd that it aired on CNN instead of HBO, though...

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.28.2015 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenlight
I have noticed police got militarized big time in U.S. and cops became more and more "psychopatic" these days. why?

No, the media is just paying more attention to what has always been there. Sadly it used to be even worse.

Keeping It Gimple 04.28.2015 06:06 PM

I know this is a bad situation but its kinda hilarious to see videos of white liberals being all "HEY GUYS STOP THROWING THINGS THIS ISN'T ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING NOW CALM DOWN AND LETS GET DOWN TO SOME HARDCORE NON VIOLENCE AND DEMOCRATIC DISCOURSE" but before the condescension can even begin some brotha sets a car on fire and loots a store.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.28.2015 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeping It Gimple
" but before the condescension can even begin some brotha sets a car on fire and loots a store.


Heard dat

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.28.2015 07:23 PM

you need both methods to effect change. The sit ins and marches were great and all in the 60s but what really pushed the issue? Burning down 100 major cities in 1968

Drjohnrock 04.28.2015 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
you need both methods to effect change. The sit ins and marches were great and all in the 60s but what really pushed the issue? Burning down 100 major cities in 1968


The Civil Rights Act of 1964, The Voting Rights Act of 1965, Loving v. Virginia, Brown v. Board of Education--the list goes on and on. None of these were accomplished by empty-headed acts of destroying your own neighborhoods. The '68 riots accomplished nothing. Places like Detriot have never recovered and likely never will. But you're free to indulge in your fantasies.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.28.2015 08:47 PM

The 68 Uprisings accomplished nothing did they? Remember all those laws you mentioned were merely paperwork until AFTER the uprisings. Remember that during Reconstruction in the 1860s there were plenty of rosy laws passed too, doomed only to exist on paper under the duress of the KKK and Jim Crow. Well, the people finally fought back and they're fighting now. You and !@#$%! go ahead and vote, and folks on the street will continue to do what we do, and more or less we're meeting each other half way. I don't live in fantasy, the streets burning speak for reality themselves.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.28.2015 08:56 PM

Besides, rioting is an American tradition

 

!@#$%! 04.28.2015 11:48 PM

http://wapo.st/1DIFPrO

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.29.2015 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

That was a surprisingly good read, especially the commentary about how people like to vicariously get their hands dirty associating with criminality through TV and social media without having to actually have face to face interactions with the humans involved in crime. Me? I grew up with hood people, getting into all kinds of trouble, making the worst decisions. I just relate to the bottom and ive always found the romanticization of gangs and drugs through media pathetic. Now the media is doing opposite, dehumanizing Baltimore or Ferguson as "thugs" as if they didn't have real human lives and real human motivations for uprising or for crime.

SonikJesus 04.29.2015 04:19 AM

the media wants to make it seem worse than it is. To make it easier for people to accept the disarming of citizens. Then impose martial law on an unarmed populace.

greenlight 04.29.2015 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonikJesus
the media wants to make it seem worse than it is. To make it easier for people to accept the disarming of citizens. Then impose martial law on an unarmed populace.


I hope second amendment wont be abolish. just for sake of constitution + as you saying it would be easier to deal with unarmed population from the government point of view in U.S. (still, weird place to me).

!@#$%! 04.30.2015 12:52 PM

15 bawlmor neighborhoods have lower life expectancies than north korea

http://wapo.st/1bYIsij

 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.01.2015 12:52 PM

For those who disregard the efficacy of rioting understand that the indictments announced today may never have even happened without the pressure exerted by the unrest and threat of more.. too bad these kind of cases are always dismissed in the courts

!@#$%! 05.01.2015 02:08 PM

 

rebeccagotcursedout 05.01.2015 06:12 PM

rioting is one thing but looting is another. or are they one in the same?

so, let me put like this... throwing bricks and 2x4's at cops is one thing but stealing shit and knocking out camera men (who shouldn't be there to begin with) for no reason is another. does the right go with the wrong to really prove something?

im bias and it's politics. I hate politics.

legalize all drugs!!

rebeccagotcursedout 05.01.2015 06:18 PM

oh nevermind. violence is what made America America and the spread of mainstream religions.

carry on. end of thread.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.01.2015 07:39 PM

Im not arguing about the morality of rioting rather the efficacy

rebeccagotcursedout 05.01.2015 07:51 PM

so the outcome is whatever!?!? just as long as it makes a statement? even if there are casualties? that's kind of paradoxical but not. humans are humans.

like the hand of GOD slapping his own face.

I call bullshite pointless!!!

there's a better way.

guess im a pussy and from the MLK variety.

The Soup Nazi 05.01.2015 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebeccagotcursedout
so the outcome is whatever!?!? just as long as it makes a statement? even if there are casualties? that's kind of paradoxical but not. humans are humans.

like the hand of GOD slapping his own face.

I call bullshite pointless!!!

there's a better way.


What SFAD just said is he considers the riots efficient (in the "causing effects/producing results" sense of the word) and is not discussing their morality. You completely miss the point by critizicing that particular (meta-)post in ethical terms.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.01.2015 08:04 PM

MLK methods may only have achieved success in tandem with the riots that followed his death. The legislation passed in mid60s DID NOT exist beyond on paper until the 1970s.. sure it makes for great curricula to teach about protests and sit ins but the truth does not necessarily reflect that reality.

Again then im not discussing morality, we're talking about raw efficacy.

rebeccagotcursedout 05.01.2015 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
What SFAD just said is he considers the riots efficient (in the "causing effects/producing results" sense of the word) and is not discussing their morality. You completely miss the point by critizicing that particular (meta-)post in ethical terms.



yeah, I know what the fuck he said, but not arguing implies not caring for whatever.

ok. got that. still doesn't makes sense. go ahead and talk yrselfs in circles.

rebeccagotcursedout 05.01.2015 08:13 PM

I can read between the lines, but that's not the full picture.

FUCK efficacy. in this particular incident it's like caring for one class but not the others future.

so you think making a statement chumps the morality of all people and what YOU feel is right? I don't think that's right at all.

maybe I don't get it.

rebeccagotcursedout 05.01.2015 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
MLK methods may only have achieved success in tandem with the riots that followed his death. The legislation passed in mid60s DID NOT exist beyond on paper until the 1970s.. sure it makes for great curricula to teach about protests and sit ins but the truth does not necessarily reflect that reality.

Again then im not discussing morality, we're talking about raw efficacy.



ok. so raw, like really raw efficacy works for the progress of the human race?

couldn't agree more. just proves my point.

The Soup Nazi 05.01.2015 08:22 PM

 

rebeccagotcursedout 05.01.2015 08:28 PM

^^^there you go. set your self on fire. seems efficient. so why not?

mindless rioting will work. has worked. will always work.

I have shovel and can also dig my own grave. enjoy yr revolution with busted bongos.

rebeccagotcursedout 05.01.2015 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
MLK methods may only have achieved success in tandem with the riots that followed his death. The legislation passed in mid60s DID NOT exist beyond on paper until the 1970s.. sure it makes for great curricula to teach about protests and sit ins but the truth does not necessarily reflect that reality.

Again then im not discussing morality, we're talking about raw efficacy.


yeah but who started this, then who inverted it and rode the coattails. it's the legend of loss legacy. your thinking of history is warped and not what might of happened.

e.g. your riot mind!!!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.01.2015 09:45 PM

Listen im a Christian and a pacifist, i wouldn't riot myself, but its effectiveness can't be refuted. It is indeed a completely immoral action. Again, its an American tradition

rebeccagotcursedout 05.01.2015 09:53 PM

^^^^just like I said. I don't like the rioting. it's makes me sad. I hate racism when they make it a racist issue.

rioting? it's not going to prove or solve anything. you want to infiltrate the system? there's plenty of ways to do this. it is America indeed.

but no mindless useless violence please. esp. when the racist issue is up in the air. this is not the 60's. it's very vague. overly scared racist macho cops after active duty from afghanistan vs. pure racist cops.

greenlight 05.03.2015 01:36 PM

Fox News Posts Fake Baltimore Riot Photo That’s Actually From Venezuela



If you are like thousands of others, you have no doubt seen an iconic photo of Baltimore burning. The image began circulating throughout social media after a local Fox affiliate in Memphis, Tennessee apparently first ran it. Some other mainstream media outlets even shared the image, using it with headlines that said “Baltimore is Burning” and referenced a “purge”.
The only problem is it wasn’t from Baltimore.


hahaha...that mainstream media...too much.


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