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SpectralJulianIsNotDead 03.20.2007 10:46 AM

Some movies I saw recently. . .
 
Idiocracy (Luke Wilson, Maya Rudolph)- awesome A+. Criminally underrated comedy.

Science of Sleep (dir. Michel Gondry) - it was great A+.

Marie Antoinette- it was OK. B-

screamingskull 03.20.2007 10:47 AM

Marie Antionette was crap, shit in camparison with The Virgin Suicides and lost in translation.

nicfit 03.20.2007 10:47 AM

straight to the point, huh? :) I still have to see science of sleep... :(

fishmonkey 03.20.2007 10:48 AM

i'm really come day go day with films, i can take em of leave em, but i have to admit the way your grading them like school grades is fair funny.

schizophrenicroom 03.20.2007 10:56 AM

ah, i want to see idiocracy.

the last movie i sat and enjoyed was the 400 blows.

screamingskull 03.20.2007 10:57 AM

I'd like to see that film about Diane Arbus with Nicole Kidman in it. I had to study Diane's work at college. Anyone seen it?
What about Factory Girl anyone seen that?

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 11:00 AM

some movies I saw recently while at home with vcr and old vhs tapes which I have seen before.

The Adventures of Baron Munchausen - B-
There is a LOT I love about this movie but it drags in parts and just leaves me unfulfilled at the end.

Dr. Strangelove - A++
I fucking love this movie. It is a perfect paranoiac comedy. everyone should watch it. I had not seen it in years.

Galaxy Quest - A
a dead on perfect satire of star trek and star trek fandom, with no disrespect paid to the star trek franchise. I laughed hard so many times. Tony Shaloub (sp?) is my favorite thing in this movie.

Star Trek Insurrection - B-
I am a huge star trek fan, and I did like this movie but it was like a very good long television episode, which i gues sis all you can hope for from a movie based on a long running television show. The bad guys are gross.

Pootie Tang - :)
I cannot give this a grade,becaus it is a CRAPPY movie, but goddamn I love it so. It makes me laugh uncontrollable histrionic laughter at various times in this movie. most people find this unbearable, but if you love the absurd and find humor in it, there is plenty to be had in this. Potie Tang dancing and dodging gunfire is the single funniest thing I have ever seen on film. Sine Yo Piddy on the Runy Kine. 70 minute movie. short as all fuck.

Cocoanuts (Marx Bros.) - A
fuck these guys are hilarious. "All you pigeons waiting to be trimmed step right up for the big swindle." I can watch harpo and Chico and Groucho ad Zeppo act anarchic and insane and socipathic all day.

Animal Crackers (Marx Bros) - B+
Not as good as cocoanuts because of too much extraneous story, but fuck these guys make me laugh.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 03.20.2007 11:01 AM

My sisters and I laughed our asses off at Idiocracy.

The thing with Marie Antoinette is that it is very frustrating. Have the movie is her going to bed with Louis and not having sex with him, then getting up in the morning having an awkward breakfast, then getting a letter from her mom that essentially says "why haven't you boinked him yet?" The other thing was that some characters had american accents, some had french accents, and some had english accents. . . And Sophia Coppola had the balls to go where many men have gone before- an I Want Candy montage scene. I mean come on.

nicfit 03.20.2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Galaxy Quest - A
a dead on perfect satire of star trek and star trek fandom, with no disrespect paid to the star trek franchise. I laughed hard so many times. Tony Shaloub (sp?) is my favorite thing in this movie.

Ha ha, nice flick, i love when the guy drives the starship out of the hangar.....GNIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
My sisters and I laughed our asses off at Idiocracy.

The thing with Marie Antoinette is that it is very frustrating. Have the movie is her going to bed with Louis and not having sex with him, then getting up in the morning having an awkward breakfast, then getting a letter from her mom that essentially says "why haven't you boinked him yet?" The other thing was that some characters had american accents, some had french accents, and some had english accents. . . And Sophia Coppola had the balls to go where many men have gone before- an I Want Candy montage scene. I mean come on.


marie antoinette was boring as fuck. NOTHING happened, except that her pretty face with the nice 80's background music.

there's an interview on youtube where she explains.

btw t was hilarious to see steve coogan w/ that fucked wig.

i love sofia but this movie bored me really bad. NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENS!! for the first hour at least, and then it's all crammed like some newspaper article "and then this happens, and then this happens, and then this happens..."

my problem with this movie was its insufficiency of PLOT.

schizophrenicroom 03.20.2007 11:36 AM

i remember there was one flight i was on that played galaxy quest all night long. i had the movie memorized for a very long time afterwards.

jon boy 03.20.2007 11:43 AM

i am in a real twin peaks kinda mood recently so fire walk with me is in order.

racehorse 03.20.2007 11:56 AM

i'm curious to see science of sleep, i saw an interview w/gondry on "the culture show" and it included some clips of the film, it definately looks intriguing.
last night i saw "summer with monika", i think it is a brilliant work, bergman's early stuff usually gets overshadowed, but it's a really interesting classical film, much less radical than "persona" etc etc, but it is a great film about "film" in my opinion, as we see monika obsessing over and projecting herself onto hollywood melodramas and bergman reassures us that this is just a superficial, querky aspect of monika's character but then he destroys that concept with that breathtaking shot where monika stares directly at the camera, watching us watch our film, a fascinatingly nihilistic thing to do in my opinion, where we ask "what are we even watching?" and "what is real?"
i haven't seen a new film for a while, although i did watch "the death of mr lazarescu" (2006) last week and it was hilarious, tense, frustrating, fascinating and brilliant because nothing much actually happens and you know what the outcome will be anyway due to the title so you ask yourself "why am i watching this?", it's fab.

atsonicpark 03.20.2007 12:17 PM

lost in translation, marie antoinette, and virgin suicides are the three worst films i've ever seen.

david lynch is god.

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
lost in translation, marie antoinette, and virgin suicides are the three worst films i've ever seen.

david lynch is god.


replace lost in translation, marie antoinette, and virgin suicides with twin peaks:fire walk with me, Lost Highway, and mulholland drive and you have my three worst movies ever

cryptowonderdruginvogue 03.20.2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
lost in translation, marie antoinette, and virgin suicides are the three worst films i've ever seen.


mmmm no.

racehorse 03.20.2007 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
replace lost in translation, marie antoinette, and virgin suicides with twin peaks:fire walk with me, Lost Highway, and mulholland drive and you have my three worst movies ever


:eek: ...
why do you think that?

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 01:18 PM

I found them to be David Lynch's masturbation on film. and I did not like them.

twin peaks sucked shit. I hated the television show and the movie was one big fucking toss-off. Just dreadfully boring.

Lost Highway was the most overwrought piece of NOTHING surrounded by layers and layers of supposedly cryptic dream-logic inanities. I hate Lynch's dream logic bullshit. It is not entertaining. it does not hold my attention and after subsequent viewings I find NOTHING to be gleaned from it, even seen through a hyper critical prism, and a magic realist midset, it is fucking NOTHING. I coudl give a fuck about dreams, much less movies that seem like some other dude's dreams, wholly unintelligible, whose symbolic logic is out of anyone's reach but the filmmaker himself.

same goes for mulholland.

dull dull dull movies.

mind you, they are BEAUTIFUL looking, and the mood and setting are all well-crafted, but at the service of what? a fucking NOTHING of a story. I actually wanted to find the bastard and kill him to put me and the world out of the misery of having to endure his fucking masturbation on celluloid.

I find his latest movies, and david lynch himself, to be the most overrated filmmaker of the past 30 years.

nicfit 03.20.2007 01:24 PM

rob there's no way to judge lynch movies by their PLOT. Is like judging picasso as a BAD painter because "that woman is drawn strangely, doesn't even look like a woman". That said, you are totally free to hate/ don't like Lynch movies, to each is own.

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 01:36 PM

the comparioson you make is not apt. Lynch's movies have plots. that is not what I HATE about them. I hate his fucking "weirdness" for no other reason than to be weird, which he suffuses innto all his latest movies. pointlessness. I cannot stand pointlessness in a movie. if I am going to waste 2 hours or more of my life on a film (and yes, I pretty much consider movies a waste of time) then I want first and foremost to be entertained, which his movies do not do, and secondly I want to b given the tools IN the movie itself to understand the movie itself.

Lynch's movies are like a book that you read, and cannot understand, until you read a book detailing why the author did wht he did. I find that masturbatory and self-flaggelating.

Lynch will be forgotten as a self-cock-stroking asshole. my prediction for the next 50 years.

o

nicfit 03.20.2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I want first and foremost to be entertained, which his movies do not do, and secondly I want to b given the tools IN the movie itself to understand the movie itself.

I totally understand your point, but if this is what you want and search for in a movie it's clear from the start that you won't enjoy Lynch's movies. But you have to admit that other people can fully enjoy "pointless" movies that put them in a strange state of mind/puzzle them like lynch movies do. It's a little semplicistic (?), I know, but I find it really hard to express in english what my mind is thinking in italian :( :(
edit: and it's better not to turn this thread into a discussion on Lynch...

racehorse 03.20.2007 01:53 PM

i find his movies extremely entertaining, they are cinematic pyrotechnics - his movies leave the door ajar so that you can explore them yourself, his ideas are powerful and original, for me they are entertaining for the act of art/creativity itself. but if you don't like him you never will i guess.

nicfit 03.20.2007 01:56 PM

I agree with you racehorse, I love how thoughts/feelings "induced" by lych's movies come into my mind in random moments... aaaaaaaaaargh I can't express myself better today...:( :(

LifeDistortion 03.20.2007 01:57 PM

I saw "The Science of Sleep" a few nights ago and while I wanted to love the film, it was a movie I'd wanted to see since I first saw the trailer, the movie itself only ended up as a good film. I think this was the case with a lots of the reviews, it seemed like it could have been a great film, that ended up sort of just good, like it was lacking a bit. It also didn't help that half the film was in french and half was in english, would have preffered one or the other, I'm fine with subtitles but make the whole thing in subtitles or just make it all in english, not half of the film one language half the film in another.

Everyneurotic 03.20.2007 02:02 PM

last movie i saw was say anything, i love it.

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 02:07 PM

I agree fully nicfit, as everyone is entitled to enjoy what they enjoy and I in no way wish to shove my tastes onto anyone. Lynch is just someone who brings to me great distaste.

I find that the state of mind which Lynch seeks to achieve in his viewers through his latest films is achievable by me much more to my satisfaction from literature. Frankly, much everything that film achieves is better achieved through literature, but that is a moot point as I am only describing my own personal tastes in the matter.

I find it is easier to confuse and confound one's audience with trickery and dream logic than it is to confuse and confound one's audience through actual storytelling. It is much more pleasing to me when it is the latter.

nicfit 03.20.2007 02:14 PM

I agree fully with you, Rob, except for the line "the state of mind which Lynch seeks to achieve in his viewers", I don't think he aims to induct a specific state of mind, it's up to the viewers to "let themselves go" and see where their mind goes, he just gives a sort of "input" on where to start this sort of "inner journey" from... ARgh, now I'll stop, sorry but I really son't feel at ease expressing myself in english :( forgive me :)

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 02:26 PM

hey, you are doing a great job man, I fully understand and it is clear and great english. chill!

:)

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
I agree fully with you, Rob, except for the line "the state of mind which Lynch seeks to achieve in his viewers", I don't think he aims to induct a specific state of mind, it's up to the viewers to "let themselves go" and see where their mind goes, he just gives a sort of "input" on where to start this sort of "inner journey" from... ARgh, now I'll stop, sorry but I really son't feel at ease expressing myself in english :( forgive me :)


my "inner journey" with inland empire led me to "deep sleep" :D

(i enjoyed mulholland drive though)

SynthethicalY 03.20.2007 02:28 PM

Have never seen any of Lynch's movie.

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 02:32 PM

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Have never seen any of Lynch's movie.


start with blue velvet-- awesome

or you could do "the elephant man" first, even.

also see if you can find the 1st season of "twin peaks". ive never seen the 2nd one and i think ... i dont know.

SynthethicalY 03.20.2007 02:36 PM

I will. On regards to Marie Antoinette I thought it was pretty good. I like the way it was shot, it was wonderfully shot. But I think I know what you guys mean by the plot, there are times it is slow.

noumenal 03.20.2007 02:38 PM

I'm going to go see a film called The Lives of Others today.

I saw The Science of Sleep - it was OK, not as good as Eternal Sunshine.

Marie Antoinette was OK, not as good as Lost in Translation.

I love Blue Velvet, Eraserhead is OK. I hate Mulholland Dr. and Twin Peaks. For the most part, I agree with Robin Stigator

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
I will. On regards to Marie Antoinette I thought it was pretty good. I like the way it was shot, it was wonderfully shot. But I think I know what you guys mean by the plot, there are times it is slow.


oh yeah it was pretty really pretty & all but it was a 2-hour long music video!! pointless!! she could have made a bunch of little video clips for each song & release it as dvd that would have been more entertaining.

now i do get sofia's point of view about "the girl" & all that, it's just that, it's beyond slow... i like slow movies! i just re-watched the deer hunter the other day. there is a difference between "slow" and "amorphous shit" though. :D

SynthethicalY 03.20.2007 02:42 PM

Ha, yeah it could have been a dvd for a music video for each one. But I still think it was good. But each to his own.

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Ha, yeah it could have been a dvd for a music video for each one. But I still think it was good. But each to his own.


well actually im happy some people like it because i have a bit of a crush on her and i felt bad about not liking this one, ha ha.

SynthethicalY 03.20.2007 02:45 PM

Who, Kirsten or Sofia?

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Who, Kirsten or Sofia?


sofia of course-- she's lovely. kirsten is pretty, but dumb as a fucking doorknob.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igt1o7HSyXI

SynthethicalY 03.20.2007 02:49 PM

I won't look, I used to fantasize about Kirsten in my teenage years.

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 02:50 PM

Marie Antoinette was a fucking WHORE

it's good that the bitch got decapitated.


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