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h8kurdt 05.18.2017 03:50 AM

R.I.P Chris Cornell
 
https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...r-dies-aged-52

Gutted, just gutted. His voice, especially on Superunknown was just something else. The fact that he seemed happy touring with Soundgarden again makes it worse.

tesla69 05.18.2017 06:03 AM

I still enjoy listening to early Soundgarden, they were a very solid hard rock band...sad to hear this.

EDIT: CBS radio at 7 am reporting this was a suicide

louder 05.18.2017 06:30 AM

RIP. :( Listening to Superunknown right now..

THE DAY I TRIED TO LIVE hit me pretty hard.

noisereductions 05.18.2017 07:08 AM

just heard this. Just wow. So sad.

Rob Instigator 05.18.2017 08:31 AM

Ultramega OK and louder Than Love were my shits. Being investigated as a possible suicide. He had just played a soundgarden gig in Detroit last night. crazy. shit.

noisereductions 05.18.2017 08:50 AM

I thought of you right away Rob. I remember you repping those albums often.

It's so weird though right? Feels like there was never any drama w/ him. He had a fairly successful solo career. He had success w/ Audioslave. He did the Temple Of The Dog reunion last year and Soundgarden reunion this year. He was on tour ! If it was a suicide, it's even more shocking than if it was just unexpected natural causes.

Either way - very, very sad.

h8kurdt 05.18.2017 09:11 AM

Totally. On his Twitter feed he seemed to be in high spirits and enjoying the tour too.

noisereductions 05.18.2017 10:06 AM

damn, I just read that the Singles soundtrack album is coming out tomorrow. It's got a whole second disc of rare and unreleased stuff from Chris Cornell, Mudhoney, Westerberg, even the Citizen Dick stuff...

Severian 05.18.2017 10:14 AM

He also did that (awful) cover of Prince's "Nothing Compares 2U" to honor the Purple One and, it seemed, to mourn the unnecessary loss of a talented and gifted artist to self-destricrive impulses.

Cornell has been around a lot of this. Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and I suppose Scott Weiland counts somehow too, despite not being part of the "scene," as they were peers in some respects.
I also never thought of Cornell as a particularly tormented person. I'm not aware of any struggles wth drugs. I'm just kind of baffled.

His music has been consistently terrible since Soundgarden broke up the first time, but the band was a sturdy one. They managed to strike the balance that Alice In Chains couldn't (because they were too schlock-metaly), of stoner rock, basement punk, classic rock and pseudo-experimental studio tinkering. With pretty goddamn sweet results actually. Their early albums were solid butt-punk-rock, and their major label releases were all pretty good. I actually like Down on the Upside quite a bit. "Blow up the Outside World" and "Pretty Noose" were good. Superunknown was excellent, especially "Blow up the Outside World."

Sad and weird. Has there ever been a regional scene more plagued by self-destruction than Seattle's? From Hendrix to Cornell. It's pretty astounding/shocking/terrible.

RIP Chris Cornell. :(

noisereductions 05.18.2017 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
His music has been consistently terrible since Soundgarden broke up the first time,


I never even listened to Audioslave myself. But I liked his first solo album quite a bit. And the cover of "Billy Jean" later was cool.

Rob Instigator 05.18.2017 11:01 AM

Cornell has been "clean" since around 2004. He was a heavy drinker and heroin user for years after Soundgarden broke up. (probably because of shit-ass Audioslave). the sad thing is he has three kids 8-13 yrs of age.

greenlight 05.18.2017 02:09 PM

just red it and little bit in shock. he looked to be o.k. guy with no issues. weird. RIP.

Rob Instigator 05.18.2017 02:13 PM

Depression is invisible.

h8kurdt 05.18.2017 03:47 PM

It's been confirmed as suicide. Supposedly he hung himself in the bathroom. Saddest bit is on the last song of the night he sang a verse from Zeppelin's In My Time Of Dying

'In my time of dying, I want nobody to mourn.
All I want for you to do is take my body home.
Well, well, well, so I can die easy.'

Man, that just breaks my heart a little bit more.

noisereductions 05.18.2017 03:49 PM

jeez. Ugh.

Screaming Skull 05.18.2017 03:59 PM

Love 'em or hate 'em, this tribute from Dave Mustaine is sincere...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhqMVNlPHE8

Severian 05.18.2017 04:13 PM

I just saw a Newsweek article that said "After Chris Cornell's death, fans are praying desperately to keep Eddie Vedder safe."

:(

What the fuck.

Like the worst part of this is that grunge is in jeopardy? That there might be a shortage of 40-something alt rock frontmen from the '90s? That seems really fucked up to me. I mean, a man killed himself. Musician or not, that sucks for reasons that have nothing to do with the preservation of an era of rock music.

Not that I want any harm to come to Eddie Vedder, but the safety of alt-rock dudes is far from the takeaway here.

What the hell is wrong with people?

Rob Instigator 05.18.2017 04:14 PM

indeed.

Musicians are all in the same family, touring, recording, playing endless gigs to fans....

tesla69 05.18.2017 05:41 PM

from the AP:
Cornell, who grew up in Seattle, said he started using drugs at age 13 and was kicked out of school at 15.
"I went from being a daily drug user at 13 to having bad drug experiences and quitting drugs by the time I was 14 and then not having any friends until the time I was 16," he told Rolling Stone in 1994. "There was about two years where I was more or less agoraphobic and didn't deal with anybody, didn't talk to anybody, didn't have any friends at all. All the friends that I had were still (messed) up with drugs and were people that I didn't really have anything in common with."
But at 16 he grew serious about music, learning to play the drums while also working as a busboy and dishwasher.

alcohol seemed to be an ongoing issue and there was a reference to a pipe...


just seems needless...

noisereductions 05.18.2017 07:04 PM

 


listening to this. So good. RIP.

RanaldoNecro 05.18.2017 07:12 PM

A bunch of early Cornell solo out tomorrow for the first time:

https://pearljam.com/shop/music/sing...ack-cd-reissue

Bytor Peltor 05.19.2017 03:13 PM

Chris Cornell's Final Performance: Something Clearly Wasn’t Right

Oddly enough, it was sports radio where I heard the most unnerving breakdown of the Chris Cornell tragedy. How the concert venue is adjacent to the casino & hotel and how you must cross the casino floor to reach the hotel elevators......and how he was found dead about 30 minutes after leaving the stage......and as he hurriedly his way toward his room, he called his wife to let her know he was about to end it all......causing her to start calling Soundgarden / Casino security prompting them to breakdown Cornell's hotel door discovering his body.

Then earlier today, Cornell's Family Disputes He Died Of Suicide......so sad and odd all the way around!

Brad Mehidau Trio - Black Hole Sun

Rob Instigator 05.19.2017 03:57 PM

wife said he told her he took to Ativan for anxiety before talking to her on phone. he was found on floor with an elastic excercise band around his neck. it had been attached to a carabiner which had been wedged between the top of the bathroom door and the door frame.

horrible.

Severian 05.19.2017 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
wife said he told her he took to Ativan for anxiety before talking to her on phone. he was found on floor with an elastic excercise band around his neck. it had been attached to a carabiner which had been wedged between the top of the bathroom door and the door frame.

horrible.


Source? Or context maybe?

Not trying to be judgy, I'm just trying to make sense of this despite my pretty firm convictions that public mourning has taken on a decidedly perverse, almost grotesque new visage in the social media age.

Still want to know which facts are reliable and which aren't.

So Bytor posted that Cornell called his wife and told her that he was going to commit suicide, and did so fucking promptly. How does the Ativan report fit in here? He phoned to say he was going to commit suicide and, also, taking Ativan for anxiety? That doesn't make sense, unless the Ativan was part of the suicide attempt notice (e.g., "I'm anxious about the fact that I'm going to kill myself so I'm taking Ativan.")

Did what you read line up with what Bytor posted about the casino, the timeline, etc.?

The Soup Nazi 05.19.2017 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
damn, I just read that the Singles soundtrack album is coming out tomorrow. It's got a whole second disc of rare and unreleased stuff from Chris Cornell, Mudhoney, Westerberg, even the Citizen Dick stuff...


From AllMusic:

Quote:

The 25th Anniversary Edition of Singles remasters the original album and adds a second disc filled with incidental music, outtakes, and other ephemera associated with the 1992 film. All the music that was heard in the film but didn't make it to the soundtrack is here: live performances from Alice in Chains and Soundgarden, plus Citizen Dick's Mudhoney send-up "Touch Me I'm Dick." Mudhoney themselves are here with a demo of "Overblown," which is paired with acoustic versions of Paul Westerberg's "Dyslexic Heart" and "Waiting for Somebody," both cut at the end of a scoring session. There are other elements from scoring sessions, too: a pair of unreleased numbers from Westerberg, Mike McCready doing a track of blues, and two sketches from Chris Cornell. The Soundgarden singer's Poncier EP -- so named after Matt Dillon's character in the film -- is presented almost in its entirety on the second disc ("Seasons" was on the proper album) and it has early versions of Soundgarden's "Spoon Man" and "Missing," plus "Flutter Girl," which would show up on his first solo album. Finally, Seattle bands Truly and Blood Circus -- both slated for Singles inclusion but cut at the last minute -- are here with the songs that would've made the cut if the cut weren't so cruel. Apart from the live material and maybe Poncier, nothing here is especially crucial, but nevertheless there's something about the wooly mess of acoustic instrumentals and grunge: it evokes how charming and ramshackle those early days of alt-rock were.

tw2113 05.19.2017 07:36 PM

So...he finally gets to Say Hello 2 Heaven.

I'll see myself out.

Severian 05.19.2017 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw2113
So...he finally gets to Say Hello 2 Heaven.

I'll see myself out.


Ahhhh... bad form dude.

Massenvernichtungswaffen 05.24.2017 04:18 PM

Really hit me hard. Had 4 different forks over the years, because of him and Hoon. I wonder did they every party with SY?
Fell on black days kept me alive several times.

louder 05.24.2017 04:36 PM

Quote:

To My Sweet Christopher,

You were the best father, husband and son-in-law. Your patience, empathy and love always showed through.

You had always said I saved you, that you wouldn't be alive if it were not for me. My heart gleamed to see you happy, living and motivated. Excited for life. Doing everything you could to give back. We had the time of our lives in the last decade and I'm sorry, my sweet love, that I did not see what happened to you that night. I'm sorry you were alone, and I know that was not you, my sweet Christopher. Your children know that too, so you can rest in peace.

I’m broken, but I will stand up for you and I will take care of our beautiful babies. I will think of you every minute of every day and I will fight for you. You were right when you said we are soulmates. It has been said that paths that have crossed will cross again, and I know that you will come find me, and I will be here waiting.

I love you more than anyone has ever loved anyone in the history of loving and more than anyone ever will.

Always and forever,
Your Vicky
Devastatingly beautiful.

Massenvernichtungswaffen 05.24.2017 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
Devastatingly beautiful.

gutted me. phew :(

louder 05.26.2017 01:42 PM

He was probably back on doing heroin..

Rob Instigator 05.26.2017 01:51 PM

toxicology has not come back yet. Ativin is known to cause suicidal thoughts as a side effect of the drug.

h8kurdt 05.26.2017 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
toxicology has not come back yet. Ativin is known to cause suicidal thoughts as a side effect of the drug.


Jeez the irony of that. Still gutted about it. Reading Vicky's letter to him makes it worse. I can't imagine getting to the state where leaving my loved ones is the better option. :( gutting

Toilet & Bowels 05.26.2017 05:18 PM

Also ativan + alcohol is known to make people do insane shit they would NEVER do when sober

louder 05.29.2017 12:19 PM

https://www.tmz.com/2017/05/25/chris...s-arm-suicide/

Severian 05.29.2017 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
Also ativan + alcohol is known to make people do insane shit they would NEVER do when sober


Yeah, well... it's no so extreme that it causes someone to do something they're not already flirting with. There's nothing special or unique about Ativan/Lorazepam. It works like all other benzodiazepines, several hypnotics (zolpidem) and its effects are comparable but less powerful than those of alcohol. It's actually the preferred benzodiazepine to treat severe alcohol withdrawal, because it has a similar effect but clouds judgment less.

It's basically just xanax/Klonipin/Valium with a slightly different efficacy and halflife. Blaming the drugs is not the way to go. Sure, abuse of any substance will increase your chances of depression, and these things should never be combined with alcohol, but it's not the drug's fault. May sound brash, but if he wasn't facing some demons he likely wouldn't have been combining the drug with alcohol. Drugs are just tools. Hammers and nails. They still require a hand to be used.

Rob Instigator 06.02.2017 03:30 PM

Cornell had Naloxone (Narcan), Butalbital (a sedative), Lorazepam (Ativan), Pseudoephedrine (a decongestant) and barbiturates in his system at the time of death.

Severian 06.02.2017 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Cornell had Naloxone (Narcan), Butalbital (a sedative), Lorazepam (Ativan), Pseudoephedrine (a decongestant) and barbiturates in his system at the time of death.


Weird that Narcan would be in his system. Unless he was taking Suboxone/Subutex, which contains narcan. But then opiates would have shown up as well. The only reason to take Narcan (aside from treating an acute opiate overdose) is to discourage yourself from taking opiates in the first place.

Either way, he was going through some shit it seems.

The Soup Nazi 06.02.2017 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Cornell had Naloxone (Narcan), Butalbital (a sedative), Lorazepam (Ativan), Pseudoephedrine (a decongestant) and barbiturates in his system at the time of death.


How come we get to know this two weeks after he died and with other famous people it's "Oh, well, we need to wait for the toxicologic report, that's gonna take at least four months, or even until the next Olympics, in fact"?

Rob Instigator 06.05.2017 08:22 AM

Toxicology takes about a week or two usually. anything else is just people trying to cover up drug use or poisonings.


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