Flea goes off on Dubya
 

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_04_1...65275013096349

"george w bush should definitely be impeached
he is a liar
and his lies have bought misery to millions of people
and bought no good to anyone except for the corporate oil
billionaires who are making huge profits
they are profiting during wartime
that is unscrupulous and terribly sad
w bush has made the world a much less safe place
before the war iraq was not a place for terrorists
saddam hussein, brutal dictator that he was was secular and had
nothing to do with al queda
and was sanctioned to death and had no power outside of his country
now it is a breeding ground for terrorism and anti-americanism is at
an all time high all over the world
and the people of iraq are no better off at all
all those people want is for the americans to leave
decent families and people like you and i who never wanted america
there in the first place
goerge w bush has sent american soldiers over there to be maimed and
killed
only to serve his selfish oil company needs and for his ego
american soldiers who are loyal to each other and who only want to
have a good job get an education and support their country are being
used for an unjust cause
i support the troops
they, like all americans are being betrayed by george w bush
he has betrayed his country he should be impeached

the administration's line that they were over there because they
wanted to spread democracy and freedom
is nothing else besides a lie
if they had any interest at all in the well being of other human beings
they would be doing what they could for people who desperately need
and would love help in africa

i pray to god that george w bush and his administration does not
invade iran
it would be a bloodbath
why dont they just leave the iranians alone
and go through the united nations
and work on making the united nations as strong and as just as possible
an invasion of iran would be the worst possible thing that could happen
i pray to god that it does not happen

i am just another guy sitting in the car on the english motorway"

Honestly..............Saddam Hussein was funding terrorists in Israel. $20,000.00 to each family who sent a family member as a body-bomber to kill Israelis.........A war on terror is a war on all terrorism.
And.........if America doesn't do something about Iran's newly acquired nuclear power, in violation of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty I might add, Israel will.
Let me put that into perspective:
If America goes into Iran......the Muslim world will look at that as "Those damned imperialists will never quit and we can't stop them...."
If Israel invades Iran.......There will be a major holocaust.
Israel has nukes, and may use them........Iran has nukes....and probably will use them.............
I, for one, do not want to breathe the fallout from that conflict.

Flea writes all sorts of stuff in his Fleamails on RHCP.com.

Flea has no right using his fame to post ridiculous biased statements like this and get attention

he said saddam hussein was secular - umm, the gassing of the kurds which killed 600,000 was over religous differences, and he also declared a war on Iran in which 1,000,000 people died over Sunni vs Shiite rivalry. So i geuss he was secular in that he was willing to kill just over 1.5 million for his beliefs.

I dont think Flea can say with complete certainty that our only motive is oil, this a completly self-defeatest belief that can never be proven, yet people go on believing to fuel their hate.

His comments about going thru the UN, well, we did the same thing with Iraq, thats why we were in there with something like 26 other countries. Not that i support any wars happening or any emergant ones.

Flea should stick to music, maybe i wouldnt have fallen asleep during By the Way if he had focused on writing music instead of petty hatemail I'd expect from a child.

"Flea has no right using his fame to post ridiculous biased statements like this and get attention"


Hey, Flea has every right to post what he likes. ever wonder why people can't be people, be themselves, when they're stars? let him post like we do for God's sakes. i'm happy neil is stepping out too, denouncing bush. i don't like music too preachy, but these are some good artists doing it more un bono like. besides something's got to be done with this loser as pres.

the iraq war was a hoax, and bush is a liar..

Im not saying that he cant have an opinion, but i just believe that politics should be kept personal because they are something that isolate you from people with contrary beliefs, and we can all get along better when people dont come out and rage like they have it all figured out and we are wrong. That and he should get his facts straight.

proud marie.....

lethrnck or jfreimark????

.."and we can all get along better when people dont come out and rage like they have it all figured out and we are wrong".

i don't mean to nitpick, but i think u r taking it personally. u say "we are wrong". who's we? pro bush people or people that support the war? he's just speaking, not challenging u/the other side.

plus, he's got his facts straight.i disagreed with everything u said up there, but at this point, what's the point in debating point by point, ya know?

pffffft hah hah hahahahha


so in your ideal world, nobody can express their political opinions so that we can all get along and be like everybody else?

sounds to me like communism... chairman marie

proud marie = the return of jfreimark? at any rate, the logic is just as ridiculous as "his" ever was..

oh wow, i see unlurker already wrote it now. I was gonna post that earlier & now i feel solidarity & less paranoid. thanks!

anyway, i wrote a lengthy post earlier & then due to technical difficulties, It got erased, so i suppose i'll make another attempt

the chairperson of the democratic party, rep. rahm emanuel (d-IL)
was on maher last night & he voiced his support for Hillary Clinton. I've already covered this ground before, but feel compelled to go there again. It was made publicly clear that the republican party was the first major supporter of hillary clinton's campaign. This is the powers-that-be clearly rubbing it in the nose of the sleepy american public. Let's be realistic---Hillary Clinton cannot win against whoever the republican challenger is gonna be. I'm sure next year Hilllary's speechwriters will be working overtime to come up with some pretty cool shit you can relate to perhaps, but pay it no mind & vote democratic elsewhere. do not play right into the hands of the republicans. just say no to hillary. I like her okay I guess, but let's get real here. maher has also voiced his disdain at the seemingly impending & eventual clinton nomination.

About iran...hopefully we can mount a covert operation to assist the youth of iran that are growing weary of shi'ite fundamentalist controls. general anthony zinni was also on maher & at one point remarked (as i've said all along) that all we've done in iraq is increase the power of the dreaded shi'ites. "we gave them iraq as a gift," he said. we've seemingly forced ourselves into a showdown with iran through war mismanagment & for every deciding to get heavily invoved in the middle east of all places. the retired general was also critical of both the entry strategy of having too few troops & the incompetent & seemingly non-existent exit strategy.

um, like i said on the previous board...i WILL NEVER post under another name

why would i? its not like i hold back with this SN

flea......great spokesman.....between having him and whoopi on your side, im amazed you didnt win in 2004

Ah, Atari....your avatar. Where those real conversation hearts, or did you alter them yourself?

i found it on the internet & since the republicans are so fond of spinning the truth i twirled it with the irfanview program...

 

Lethrneck4 (or the hiding coward aka jfriemark), if you start using the following suggested avatar, then i'll un-ignore list ya

Brilliant!

thats the dumbest avatar ive ever seen

Lethrneck4, I award you this purple heart:

well, we know thats as close to a purple heart as you will ever get

The same can be said for you too, right?

Lethrneck4 is such an uncaring & mewling clay-brained maggot-pie.

(somebody please use that in a signature)

I've seen Lethrneck4 write before that he watches Real Time with Bill Maher. Well, there's a documentary on HBO premiering right now called "Too Hot Not To Handle" that was just explaining (just as I've written before) that the world's oceans are warming to such a degree that the intensity of hurricanes will continue to escalate & increase. If I remember that was another point you doggedly battled with me about...of course, that was before you were ignored like the no-count you are. Bush put in a CA appearance for Earth Day today. The program I'm watching was produced by Larry David's wife, Laurie. It offers more than lip-service to the problem. It's filled with the testimony of heroes.

um, so you are the better person for ignoring me? sounds like a loser thing to do, a give up tactic by a weak willed, lame brained person (apparantly a liar too, since this is the second or third time youve supposedly permanently ignored me) only to respond to my baiting time and time again

and no, i never argued with you over weather conditions or hurricanes, seeing as though i think global warming is real and a problem

and yes, i have HBO and enjoy bill mahers show. just cause i dont agree with him most times, doesnt mean i cant like his show...its called being openminded

well, i actually served in the military, incase my SN wasnt obvious. no, i didnt get a purple heart, but id say i was a lot closer than someone who never served. i know a few people who do have purple hearts, so i guess i am closer

so no, the same cant be said

all i see is two posts in a row, swag-bellied malt-worm...i guess it takes you two or 3 posts in a row (like khchris) to gather your thought

there's no plural there if you'll notice, evildoer

i reponded to your post first, then afterwards i saw the one asking me if i was closer....sorry for the 2 posts....i know you are easily confused

ignore list, remember?

you're gonna have to find another person to play your little games with, Lethrneck4. I was just giving you extra shit because you deserve it for being such a Bush-can-never-do-wrong, Bush-lovin' automaton.

I don't have to see your posts to know that's the track you're going to take. You've affirmed your undying allegiance to Bush a multitude of times. You know, in America, you don't have to love everything your president does. That's essentially a big part of what makes america "America".

The guy probably served in the Marines when Clinton was president & made it okay for gays. Ever since then he's been arch-conservative. Most of us remember what he wrote about black people, after all.

Any bullshit against Bush that any celebrity has to offer these days elicits a giant yawn from me.

I've personally heard enough of this bullshit about a lame duck president.

Sean Penn, anyone?

lame duck haha so clever of you. well, i'll admit that flea isn't exactly a brilliant political commentator & probably doesn't know all of the facts, but he is somewhat bravely utilizing his freedom of speech & you, Lone Flanger have the freedom not to read or pay any attention to it. The Jefferson Center awarded Bush & Mayor Bloomberg of NYC the Muzzle Award this year for supressing Freedom of Speech, by the way.
Bush has committed multiple crimes that are impeachable offenses, so yeah, I think it just might be a good thing for more of the public to know about his traitorous offenses & the ramifications of his maverick acts. But to Lone Flanger these criticisms are "bullshit" that he's tired of hearing about....oh poor baby!
Now let's get back to your lame "lame duck" qualifier that feebly tells us that no one should care about what our corrupt administration does because Bush's time is three-quarters of the way up anyway. Firstly, there has been a concerted effort by the republican party to engage in historical revisionism of the civil rights movement that's been going on since Nixon. Since Nixon we've had Carter who didn't play ball & Clinton who did play ball, but the overwhelming political swing in this country has been to the right because of the apathy & ignorance of the voting public that doesn't vote & the pig-headed fundamentalism of those who do.
Since this has been going on for well over a generation now, I fail to see how Bush being a lame duck changes any sense of urgency YOU should be personally feeling to change your government. When Bush is gone there'll be Jeb Bush or some other crony installed. It's like trying to get rid a dictator of a fascist country. When you do, another fucker just takes his place. A lot of the aides stay the same. Many of the corrupt staff stays the same even though the president changes.
Don't bother to respond back. Your posts are always been some abbreviated, contrived & devoid of real content affair to make you come off as above it all. Hmmm...makes sense...sleepy people yawn a lot.

Eh, the lame duck comment, whatever, I threw that in there for the fuck of it.

I guess more what I was talking about is who the fuck cares what a celebrity thinks of the president? I care more about what the common man thinks about the president than some guy with the ability to get his message "out there".

Percocet, anyone?

what did i say about black people other than offer my life experience with them? and dont give me the "youre calling black people "them" crap", im only saying them as in they are the subject i am talking about. im sorry if the black people ive dealt with in life didnt leave me with a good taste, but, like i also said in the thread, i feel the same about all races and nationalities. i am disgusted by most people i encounter, race and nationality not mattering.

i know you love to peg me as a conservative and a racist, even though nothing i ever posted led to this accusation being true, it all comes down to, "you support bush, you must be a conservative and a racist", and thats it.

and i wasnt the one who used the N word to try to make a dramatic point, was i?? but let me guess, you didnt mean it racially, you meant the N word in the good way....haha

the thread on the old board about the ACLU, where i called them supporters and defenders of rednecks and KKK members....for some reason i got called a racist for saying the ACLU defends KKK members.....that one always baffled me.

admit it, its ok

Yeah, just be sure to watch out for those dreaded white lighters. That's what really is out to get you.

ok, ill be careful

haha

Ahh, man, you've been around these boards long enough to know that I throw my two cents in when I feel like it and don't give a damn one way or the other. Maybe not, but whatever.

Politics schmolitics. I'm relatively open minded but don't let anyone dictate to me what the fuck I should believe. I like reading both sides of the story, really.

And do watch out for those white lighters. Seriously.

That white lighters shit isn't a joke. My friend went to buy me cigarettes today and they caught him with his fake I.D. He was also trying to buy a white lighter.

yeah some say white lighters, some say red

it's all a bunch of nonsense
a way for daft, bored people to amuse themselves

& now some apropos song lyrics from a man that is blind to the color of lighters

Very superstitious, writing's on the wall,
Very superstitious, ladders bout' to fall,
Thirteen month old baby, broke the lookin' glass
Seven years of bad luck, the good things in your past.

oo When you believe in things that you don't understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition ain't the way

Very superstitious, wash your face and hands,
Rid me of the problem, do all that you can,
Keep me in a daydream, keep me goin' strong,
You don't wanna save me, sad is my song.

When you believe in things that you don't understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition ain't the way, yeh, yeh.

Very superstitious, nothin' more to say,
Very superstitious, the devil's on his way,
Thirteen month old baby, broke the lookin' glass,
Seven years of bad luck, good things in your past

When you believe in things that you don't understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition ain't the way, no, no, no

I don't see how that has anything to do with amusing one's self.

Hilarious.

your friend got caught because he did something stupid, not because of the color of the lighter. humans are myth-makers by nature. there's some really cool myths out there as a result that illuminate a bit of the unconscious through their archetypes. On the other hand, there's also dumb people that believe in dumb superstitions. daft roughly means dumb. anyone that would make a big deal out of a lighter's color obviously is either a bored (or a boring) person.

in Drugstore Cowboy part of the plot revolves around the hex of the hat on the bed. This device makes the story amusing. A curious philosophical parallel is explored as superstition is elevated to western shaman-esque wisdom. But is it truly in reality wisdom or is it wit? Why it's the more temporal of the two; it's wit of course, after all, it's a movie. The superstition around lighter colors is an urban legend. It's something for people with nothing in their heads to talk about & in some cases, even believe in their hearts.

Hope that answers your query, HaydenAsche.

Kind of. I wasn't amused. I was pissed.

Please keep in mind I'm not labeling you as chronically dumb or anything, after all, fifteen is a young age. I have nothing against people just having some fun either. We've always gotten along pretty well as you wrote in another post recently. For a very young person to try & pass of a fake i.d. (which is no cakewalk by itself these days) your friend chose to act in an irresponsible way & thus is suffering the consequences. The fact that he says it was a white lighter (the clerk picked out?) as he was attempting to purchase with the cigarettes may be a humorous salve for wounds, but for heaven's sake, don't really believe that it was the cause of his predicament for even one instant!

Haha. I didn't. Is my sarcasm really that hard to catch?

I like you, atari. Easily one of my favorite posters. Truncy and Glice have slowly surpassed you though sadly.