Do You Believe in Fate?
 

Im still unsure about it and i think about it a lot. Sometimes i think things happen because of fate but other times its just like would they have happened anyway?

what does everyone on here think? Id be helpful if people had some real life stories to back up their argument.

I do, definitely. There are points where I've made decisions that I know directly affected the way I met new people and discovered things and whatnot.

some things are more mathematically probable to happen than others and the general equation was laid down the instant everything came into being.

the larger patterns and ripples of interference in the universe are hard for us to detect.

I believe that our feelings of fate, coincidence and deja vu are all emotional interpretations our brains make of convergences in these patterns.

What bearing that has with regard to the argument concerning "fate" depends on whether you believe in free will, or predestination. Fate would suppose that from birth our choices are already made; our journey is already mapped out ahead of us. To be honest that makes me a little uncomfortable. I'd rather think that through my own free will I determine my future. Granted, my decisions have already made an incalcuble impact on my future - choosing which university to attend, which course to study and so on. However, I'd like to think that I wasn't predisposed to make those exact choices from the minute I was born. If that was the case, why live your life if only to fulfil someone else's agenda?

I primarily believe in the determinist theory. Not everything is mapped out from birth, but every event that happens to you directly affects your choices. This dismisses free will because whatever choice you make in a decision was already predetermined; although this is only predetermined as a result of past happenings.

So really, it is something that is predetermined, but somewhat based on what happens around you instead of something that happens at birth.

That is what I agree with. With what Inhuman said ^^^

What he said.

my karma ran over my dog.

Ha.

I think you'd be really good at this game called 'Absolute Balderdash'.

your worship is accepted.

Fate exists if you believe in it.

Does us being, uh, male or female make any difference to you?

A dinosaur dies during a mass extinction event.
Its bones are covered by in mud, followed by layers and layers of sediment.
Forgotten for millions of years.
Then a paleontologist named Tod finds it.
The dinosaur is a huge discovery, Tod's dinosaur gets on the front of National Geographic.
Tod gets a lot of money in grants.
Tod spends that money on a hooker, who inturn spends it on heroin.
The heroin dealer happens to be dealing heroin grown in the middle east.
The money goes to warlords and terrorists.
Terrorists kill troops in Iraq.
Crazy christians decide to bomb and AIDS information place, because afterall Iraq is God's punishment for the growing homosexuality in the US.
Tod is in the AIDS info place.
He dies.

The things that happen in our lives is the result of many many forces that have roots that reach very deep into history. Events may take along time, but things have repercussions. So the things that have happened to us and the things that have happened to other people and the things that we've done all have repercussions in interesting ways. When we do something we're just a domino block being knocked over by another domino block behind us pushing over a domino block infront of us.

The events of tomorrow, and for the rest of eternity have already been set in motion.

and it's all becuz of them damn dinosaurs.

not so much.

sorry, I don't want to fuck you.

this thread is about Newtonian Physics.

^ i go with that and i do believe in fate also. i like to think that things happen because of how we make things and also for some strange unexplainable reason. shit i read a book about palm reading so maybe i am into it more i think!

That's pretty much how I feel. You can't prove anything happens for a reason anyway. Say you had an opportunity with two options you could choose, I think that either way, someone who believes in fate would still believe that they got something out of it. That's my two cents.

no, i do not believe in fate

was it fate or was it luck? good for you though.

think i need some fate too.

cheeky bleeder!

No I don't believe in fate. I base this on my own experiences in life, and observations of human history. Basically I think fate is nonsense.

If you believe in fate, coolbeans as far as I'm concerned.

But, there's no point in arguing about it - anymore than there is about religion or um, sexual positions or whatever.

I do nto believe in Fate.

with hindsight, everything LOOKS fated, but that is because you see the chain of events looking back. what you do not see is the myriad of options at each and every turn that cold have been chosen but were not. fate is for those who choose not to excercise free will.