Over-rated films
 

So people, what films do you personally find over-rated, in the sense that films that have a "legendary" reputation leave you cold or bored?

Two that come to mind for me are:

1. Flaming Creatures - I saw a screening of this about 8 years ago, and couldn't get my head around how dull it was. Men dragging up and posing/flouncing around? Is that it?

2. Lucifer Rising - I fell asleep through a screening of this (at an all-evening K Anger event). In the moments I woke up, the leaden pace and less-than-stellar visuals on offer sent me back to sleep faster than at a Jesus Franco all-nighter.

oh, i haven't seen lucifer rising yet, but kenneth anger can be a bit of a sleeper... i'll throw in scorpio rising & inauguration of the pleasure dome into the mix-- however-- there is something wonderful about those images. wasn't that the case w/ lucifer?

same thing w/ brackage, brackage has sent me into the land of morpheus more often than not.

worse even for mathew barney's "cremaster" series; although i did love "drawing restraint 9".

yes sometimes people will hold the value of a work of art because of its difficulty or its hipster aura as if that in itself was a merit. but anyway...

on the other end of the spectrum, the love that otherwise respectable people have for the disastrous mess that is "garden state" has me quite puzzled.

you will obviously disagree with me, but i love nat portman in garden state and fall in love with her character everytime i watch it

scuse me, i need to go & barf

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that character is a composite of indie clichés. horrible. you're being fooled by a pretty face. but of course enjoy a pretty face. im not saying you should drool over her. but the movie is shit, the writing is shit, shit shit shit.

Pulp Fiction was pretty overrated. It was good but it didn't live up the the God like status everyone was making it out to be.

YOUR WRITING IS SHIT!! :mad:





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Alex's Trip - Agreed. There's some great moments in it, but it's not that great.

in 199... something when it came out, it was quite unusual. by now it's so much a part of the culture i think it's novelty has worn off.

ha ha ha, sure, you should be grateful then that i don't have the clout to make movies out of it. unfortunately zach braff does-- he should have stuck to acting.

godfather

amèlie is boring as hell. i don't even care if i have the accent in the right place, i dislike it so much.

i agree, it's too gimmicky, too many obvious camera tricks to "illustrate the point" of the narrative, or whatever it is. i fell asleep the 1st time i tried watching it, i hated it the 2nd time, but the 3rd time it was nice because i was in the right mood-- just nice, not "wow, what a work of arrrrrrrrtttttt"- her pretty & expressive face makes up for a lot of shortcomings i guess.

no!!! porkie!!!!

pink flamingos is divine!!




though i have to say now i like desperate living better.

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My sentiments exactly.

I feel the same way about Blade Runner too. It's a pretty decent SF movie with nice looking Fritz Lang influenced sets. However, because there are so many shitty SF movies made every year, it gets revered as a sacred text.

The Bjork vehicle Dancer in the Dark was so boring and pretentious my wife and I turned it off.

Yeah I fucking hate that movie. Not because it's boring, I mean that's not its biggest problem. I just hate movies that make such an enormous effort to be cute and loveable, which is the reason for so many people liking the movie in the first place. The story itself is nothing exceptional or even interesting. I honestly have a hard time stomaching the praises I keep hearing for this movie. But what pisses me off the most are the people who cannot wrap their tiny little brains around the possibility that someone, in this case myself, may not care for this movie. HOW COULD THAT BE?! they wonder. These are usually people who their whole lives have only watched big Hollywood blockbusters, and then one day they go into the rental store and see this movie in the New Releases or Employee Recommendations section and decide to get it because they've seen everything else in the store, and now they think they're cultured because they've watched some dumb French movie, which happens to be the only French movie in the entire store.

Oldboy is the most overrated film ever. It's good enough, but fuck it was like # 50 on imdb's top 250 for like a year! It's went down a few notches since then but shit...

I hate that...

Toy Story is overrated.

the sixth sense.

Lord of the Rings.

It's just a cgi masturbation fest that just bored me.

Grease, and then anything M. Night Shamalamadingdong...

Preach.

Another one I've just thought of: Gangs Of New York. I was actually fuming at the end of this film, angry with myself that I'd sat through this horseshi without leaving. Martin Scorcese still owes me 2 1/2 hours of my life back....oh God, just remembered that fucking U2 were on the soundtrack as well. Argh!

Saw.

Oh god, and let's not forget Garden State. Although by this point, calling Garden State over-rated is getting a little over-rated itself.

The second Matrix film - my brain seized up whilst the rave in Zion was going on. It reminded me of an episode of "Fraggle Rock". The rest of the film was pure nonsense, though it was fun watching it with an audience full of kids who had bunked off school to see the early afternoon screening, and supplied plenty of commentary on the way.

Agreed with all and I'd add A Clockwork Orange.

i didnt know grease was rated in any sort of way, but about shalayman (sorry can't spell it either).... a big EEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW

HE SUCKS!!


equally, i didn't know this movie was highly rated-- i thought it was generally admitted as shit. i myself had enough with the atrocious previews that i haven't watched it, but i trust my wife's general good judgment in this matters (she saw it) and she claims it did suck.


sorry porks but the godfather is fucking great-- 1 & 2. if you're talking 3 it's generally agreed it's shit but actually i didn't hate it that much.
so is la dolce vita-- my favorite movie. i'll challenge you to a duel for that.
apocalypse now is good but perhaps people have made it into this kinda movie gospel which it's not
shaun of the dead is just a funny movie, it was very funny. masterpiece it wasn't.

Disagree

oh i don't read the english press. i watched it on dvd. i had a nice time. i would not buy it though.

but, so, what movies do you like? what are your favorites?

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ps for those who said matrix 2, don't forget 3!! those movies were utter crap. but yes 2 was probably the worst of the bunch.

are you a fugitive from a movie, porks?

I loved that movie!

'Sideways' sucked off trannies.

Taxi Driver Is The Best Film Ever Fuck You

i guess statements like that is what qualify it as overrated according to porkers, but it's a good movie anyway.

polanski, polanski... sometimes you're so shitty

I don't want to get into an argument with anyone about David Lynch, but most David Lynch movies are a real bore. And when they do manage to have some interesting scenes, the movie itself ultimately ends up going nowhere.

no arguments but

david lynch is the best director ever.

which ones? i loved "bitter moon" for some reason; and rosemary's baby is a truly scary movie unlike all that monster crap.


ha ha ha. well some are.

funny, i watched "dune" yesterday and it as worse than i remembered it. but i recall there was some story with this not being a "true" lynch movie.

you should watch the elephant man. that movie is great.

No way in hell.

I've seen it, which is why I said "most" and not "all."