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!@#$%! 09.18.2020 07:38 PM

oh fuck, rbg is dead
 
:( :( :(

The Soup Nazi 09.18.2020 08:32 PM

This is it, game over.

The Soup Nazi 09.19.2020 12:36 AM

Fuck it. FUCK IT, I don't give a single flying fuck if the following sounds like one of Son of a Bitch Mitch's tactics; enough of taking the high road and getting walked all over. DEMOCRACY TRULY IS AT STAKE. From Demand Progress:

Quote:

Shut down the Senate and stop Trump and McConnell from picking RBG's successor!

Petition to the Senate:

Use every procedural option available to you to shut down the Senate and make sure Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell do not get to pick Ruth Bader Ginsburg's successor on the Supreme Court.

The death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on Friday evening comes as a shock and a tragedy. We honor her forty years of pathbreaking service on the federal bench, including 27 years on the Supreme Court.

Her dying wish was that her replacement not be confirmed until a new president has been installed. Mitch McConnell just said he will not respect that wish and will instead hold a vote on Trump's nominee. But Senate Democrats have the power to stop them and save the Supreme Court.

The Senate runs on unanimous consent. If a single Senator objects to anything, even routine procedure, everything grinds to a halt. That is what Senate Democrats must do: block unanimous consent on every single thing for the rest of the year. It may be our best chance to stop Trump and McConnell. Will you help?

Sign the petition: Shut down the Senate and stop Trump and McConnell from picking RBG's successor!

This is a frankly terrifying moment. But there is a path forward. Senate Democrats have the power and the leverage to prevent Trump and McConnell from deciding who will succeed Justice Ginsburg on the Supreme Court.

Senate Democrats can block every motion, force every bill to be read in full, and use a wide range of parliamentary tactics to shut down the Senate between now and January, when new Senators and the president are inaugurated.

The Senate still has work ahead, including bills Trump and McConnell want to pass, including bills to fund the government. It's time to block all of it.

McConnell and Trump see this as their best, and perhaps last, opportunity to further stack the federal courts with extreme right-wing nominees who will cripple the next president. As tough a moment as this is, we can stop them -- if Democrats act firmly to shut down the Senate now.

Add your name now: Tell Democrats to shut down the Senate and stop Trump and McConnell from picking RBG's successor!

Thank you for taking action in this urgent moment.

d.sound 09.19.2020 12:42 AM

This is truly a frightening moment. GD republican hypocrites.

Bytor Peltor 09.19.2020 01:35 AM

 


 



“If you have a caring life partner, you help the other person when that person needs it. I had a life partner who thought my work was as important as his, and I think that made all the difference for me.”

-RBG

Screaming Skull 09.19.2020 08:16 AM

RIP, RBG. You were a maverick and an inspiration to all!

As far as the nomination is concerned, it’s payback time for the Kavanaugh atrocity as I see it. Game on.

choc e-Claire 09.19.2020 02:30 PM

This is why your country's fucked, when your idea of absolute judicial power is 'nine old people, often picked explicitly politically, who serve until they die'. But whatever, have a circus, punt your deep and fundamental problems further down the road for someone else to deal with.

Skuj 09.19.2020 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Screaming Skull
.....blah blah blah Kavanaugh atrocity blah blah blah......


Well at least you got the red part right.

Quiz: Who said this in 2016?

"The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president."

tw2113 09.19.2020 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
Well at least you got the red part right.

Quiz: Who said this in 2016?

"The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president."



Lindsey Graham according to what I see on Twitter.

Skuj 09.19.2020 02:58 PM

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/m...mod=1559166314

Edit: I never did learn how to do images.

Ooops, I forgot that I'm not supposed to post until that crazy lawyer vacates this place, which he won't.

Carry on.

tw2113 09.19.2020 03:28 PM

That was my other guess.

Bytor Peltor 09.19.2020 04:01 PM

skuj returns......thanks for dropping in!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/m...mod=1559166314

Edit: I never did learn how to do images.


 


 


Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
"The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president."


 


Quote:

Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
This is why your country's fucked, when your idea of absolute judicial power is 'nine old people, often picked explicitly politically, who serve until they die'.


Odd how none of them have the wisdom to step down before reaching the end......best statement regarding RBG:

“RGB was/is a myth sitting at intersecting vectors of ideology, mass media & merchandising. She's a retweeted Warhol print who has been invested w/power she never had. The idea that the fate of a democracy hangs on an elderly human staying alive as long as possible is apocalyptic.” - J. Farrar

choc e-Claire 09.19.2020 04:14 PM

oh I'm not on your side, the sooner Trump fucks off and dies the better. he and all his acolytes. I just feel that he's more of a symptom of a deeply failed political landscape rather than the cause.

tw2113 09.19.2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
oh I'm not on your side, the sooner Trump fucks off and dies the better. he and all his acolytes. I just feel that he's more of a symptom of a deeply failed political landscape rather than the cause.



if all the acolyte followers died with him, I'd lose my entire immediate family. I mostly wish that Trump would fade away into obscurity

choc e-Claire 09.19.2020 08:12 PM

I wasn't thinking voters (many I'd say are just misguided), more everyone who's up in the halls of power with him. Draining the swamp, if you will.

tw2113 09.19.2020 08:50 PM

To be fair, my brother's go to solution for everything he disagrees with seems to be "shoot them". So I don't have THAT much to work with.

Severian 09.20.2020 08:31 AM

I hate this year, just everything about it.
RIP RBG. Legend.

The ramifications of this have me all fucked up, too.

Bytor Peltor 09.20.2020 05:11 PM

If I understand Jewish traditions correctly, a person who dies on Rosh Hashanah is a tzaddik, which is a person of great righteousness. Rosh Hashanah began at sundown Friday evening and ends at sundown tonight.

Bytor Peltor 09.21.2020 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Per Time and Date, Sundown Friday, 18 September 2020 was at 7:10PM, whereas the first time-and-date-stamped account of her death is the NPR news story Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87 was issued at 7:28PM. Eighteen minutes seems a mighty short time time get a news stoiry out, but then NPR's Nina Totenberg was her good friend. Besides, a religious Jew would already have been buried by now, whereas the New York TImes ran this story yesterday: Ginsburg Expected to Lie in Repose at the Supreme Court, which has yet to happen.


I heard one radio show mention RBG might have actually died Thursday night or in the wee hours Friday morning. I wasn’t necessarily trying to bestow an ordained death with her passing, but with RBG being Jewish, I thought it could possibly be appropriate???

Rosh Hashanah coincides with the Feast of Trumpets and I’ve always wondered if that played into John Zorn using tzadik as the name for his label?

Bytor Peltor 09.24.2020 09:35 AM

 

Bytor Peltor 09.27.2020 09:05 AM

Robert, are your concerns about future decisions for decades to come or her ability to be confirmed before the election?

For those who missed it, Joe Biden was on record in 2016 DEMANDING that the Senate vote on a presidential nomination to the Supreme Court, even in an election year!

“The Constitution clearly states that the President ‘shall’ -not may- ‘shall’ nominate someone to the Supreme Court when there’s a vacancy. That includes the Senate consulting...but voting.

For 17 years I was the chairman or ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which oversees nominations to the Supreme Court. And every nominee, including Justice Kennedy, in an election year, got an up or down vote by the Senate.

Not much of the time

Not most of the time

EVERY

SINGLE

TIME

And deciding in advance before naming a nominee that their gonna turn their backs, that’s not an option that the Constitution leaves open.

For the sake of the country we all love, we all have to do our job, including the US Senate.”

Severian 09.27.2020 09:43 AM

Christ we just have a few straight-up Trump supporters on this site now.
The fuck.

Bytor Peltor 09.27.2020 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
I have no concern whatsoever as to her ability to be confirmed prior to the election. She will be confirmed, and, then, the American people will re-elect the President.


Not only do I anticipate re-election, I see him outright winning:

Michigan
Minnesota (someone will need to check on Savage Clone)
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin

Picking up two Senate seats and possibly having a new Speaker : )

Sadly, the demonstrating and rioting will continue until Election Day, escalate like nothing we’ve ever seen in the days/weeks/months following the outcome we foresee......but what a grand and glorious day that will be!

!@#$%! 09.27.2020 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Christ we just have a few straight-up Trump supporters on this site now.
The fuck.

how ridiculous are they though? i say 10/10

EVOLghost 09.27.2020 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Christ we just have a few straight-up Trump supporters on this site now.
The fuck.





Yeah dude...pretty nuts if you ask me. But I mean...like...I dunno....something something be open minded? But yeah....like....I can see some shallow PJ fans being Trump supporters, but seeing some hardcore Pearl Jam fans surprised to see how they're against Trump is also funny to see....like bruh....Eddie is crazily against guns...how did you not know that?

Bytor Peltor 09.27.2020 02:33 PM

Lindsey Graham Announces That Confirmation Hearings for Amy Coney Barrett Are Set to Begin October 12

choc e-Claire 09.27.2020 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
The truth is, I support Biden's 2016 position now, just as I supported it four years ago. The Republicans are the hypocrites on this one, not the Democrats. The Republicans set a VERY poor precedent four years ago.


What do you know? :eek:

As mentioned earlier - to delay a nomination for almost an entire year, then try to rush through one in six weeks is blatantly absurd, and surely even Bytor can notice the inconsistency.

tw2113 09.27.2020 04:20 PM

say what? political inconsistency regardless of party? I never would have guessed

!@#$%! 09.27.2020 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOLghost
Yeah dude...pretty nuts if you ask me. But I mean...like...I dunno....something something be open minded?

you can be open minded with someone who has a legitimate argument, not with a faithful sycophant who will twist themselves into a pretzel to justify anything and everything their master orders up.

me at this point i’ve started to take the simplified categorical position of FUCK’EM because shit has crossed the line long long long ago. so the time for discussion is long over ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

and to pretend otherwise is, frankly, bullshit. sort of like having a civilized conversation with your attempted murderer while he attempts to murder you.

so... nah. fuck’em.

The Soup Nazi 09.27.2020 05:17 PM

On the Democrats' so-called "political inconsistency": this is just their completely justified open attempt at "Oh yeah? Fuck YOU now, McConnell!" payback. The BIG difference is they don't control the Senate. Which is why we're all fucked. (Actually, even if they did control the Senate we'd still be fucked because of this. So now not only do we need a Democratic tsunami, which is hard enough, but we need it on election night. Fuck, fuck, and fuck.)

Severian 09.28.2020 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you can be open minded with someone who has a legitimate argument, not with a faithful sycophant who will twist themselves into a pretzel to justify anything and everything their master orders up.

me at this point i’ve started to take the simplified categorical position of FUCK’EM because shit has crossed the line long long long ago. so the time for discussion is long over ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

and to pretend otherwise is, frankly, bullshit. sort of like having a civilized conversation with your attempted murderer while he attempts to murder you.

so... nah. fuck’em.



Yeah, there’s zero benefit to being open minded to people who are supportive of this president. I’m not going to “Two Sides” that shit. There’s being against hateful, criminal behavior, and not being against it, and those who aren’t against it might as well be flat-earthers for all the time or consideration I’m going to give their fucked views.

Maybe that means I’m closed minded for not being open minded to closed-minded people, but I don’t care


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