I think I am gonna join the airforce reserves
 

My sister just left for the airforce and I'm not doing anything with my life. It seems like a good idea.

My semi-adopted cousin person (it's complicated) is in the Air Force. He's pretty wild about it. But that doesn't mean it's for everyone.

are you going to let depression make decisions for you?

looking forward to your postcards from iran...

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you know, even if you do it from the sky, it's still killing. trust me, ive interviewed veteran pilots who live traumatized to this day. i somehow see you as more of a peaceful dude. but of course self-destruction is a personal choice.

well its your life but i would suggest not doing something like that and look at your options.

My town has a base, so the mall is always flooded with airmen. Not exactly the best kind of people to be hanging out with.

Reserves. . . I'd do training and 2 days a month + a 15 day "TOD" every year.

The base I'd be serving at supports a C-130 airlift during peace and wartime.

I wouldn't be doing any killing. Just very indirectly helping with it. Which we all do everytime we pay for gas, eat chocolate, drink coffee, etc.


I don't know if you guys know this, but I went to a private college for one year and I'm in a lot of debt that I can't afford to pay, and my credit is down the drain so I can't get college loans again. As a teenager I sort of fucked my life in the ass by choosing to go to a school I couldn't afford, then getting addicted to world of warcraft at age 19 so when I was on monetary suspension I wasn't really doing anything to help myself.

you can rationalize it in any way you want.

once upon a time i had a gf who was in the "reserves" & ended up in iraq. she fucking hated that shit but had signed her life away by doing an ROTC program to pay for college. sad. last time i saw her she was getting plastered & making out in a bar. i did not approach to say hello.


you could become a teacher & get your debts forgiven. bankruptcy does not cancel college loans i believe. if it does, you could file. actually filing for bankruptcy can improve your credit rating.

now... i believe you need to turn your shit around but doing time in the air force doesn't sound like a well-reasoned option. how about americorps? how about a job and community college? a little patience goes a long way.

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edit:
found this. have a read

http://www.moranlaw.net/studentloans.htm

i would suggest doing something that helps people like being a teacher, working for a worthy cause or travelling. dont become part of a war machine.

!@#$%! I'm gonna send you a PM so maybe we could have a private conversation, there are some things that I might want to bring up that I shouldn't bring up in a public forum.

edit: Eh, actually I don't need to bring those things up because they aren't really important.


Well the reserves definitely aren't for me if I'm gonna end up in the middle east.

I'm just at a loss of what to do really.

People just seem to want me to be a worker drone "You're good at x, go back to school and become y" is what everyone tells me. I just don't really see the point, you know?

I just look at that life and it doesn't look like it is for me. Some of them don't make much money, some of them make a lot of money.


I think what I need to do is get a job and get a car. Then I can commute to the city and play a lot more shows and actually get paid for them, meet new musicians, jam with them, and keep doing the music thing. I don't really care if I make money. I just wanna do what I love. I don't want to be a little white collared worker like everyone else. I don't really mind living with my parents. If I just have enough money to pay for gas, keep new strings on my guitars and them all up to par and serviced, I think that would go a long way.

It is just hard for me to really take control of my life for some reason. I can tell myself what I need to do but I have a really hard time doing it. I'm 21 and I don't have a fucking license. I didn't get one when I was 16 because I had no friends and no reason. When I was 18 I tried to, but I almost got in 2 accidents and then later my wallet was stolen from me including my learner's permit. And that sort of traumatized me. Then I went to college for a year and didn't need one. Then when I came home I was a WOW addict until I turned 20.

I started to turn my life around by really delving into music and my parents were opening an antique store, so I was helping a lot with that and thought I could work there. . . but that didn't pan out. Meanwhile odd-jobs kept me afloat with cash to do what I needed.

Part of the problem is I just have a really hard time doing things, taking the big steps. I've always had a hard time pursuing girls, all that stuff. Sometimes I just need to say "I gotta do this today" but that isn't how a lot of things work. If I try to be patient, it turns into procrastinating and forgetting followed by depression followed by will by a need for patience once more and back into the loop.

the reserves ARE the new active duty! be careful of what you sign....it's your life we're talking about!


*GASP*




seriously though, unless you really want to go to Iraq, find another job! I respect those in the military (I could never do it), but I don't think that now is really the optimal time to join up (in order to get your life together).

i'm sporadically in & out but go ahead.

Doing your part for the army or anything to do with the Man for that matter < All the good people on earth suddenly committing hara-kiri.

I'M SORRY IF THAT OFFENDS ANYONE

I decided not to because the topic I was going to bring up in the original post that I didn't want to bring up privately I no longer felt the need to say. I was going to talk about someone I know and I don't like to talk too much publicly about some people I know, because I respect their privacy.

So I just changed the post and went on a bit about my life.

I would stay as far away from the millitary as is humanly possible. Most people ive met in the millitary are horrible dumbarses. You have a collage degree you can do sooo much better.

The millitary is good if your happy to switch off your head, obey and have everything decided for you. It is not the most interlectual or stimulating of careers. Anything, I mean anything is better than the millitary. I cant think of another job that robs people of dignity more.

he doesn't have a degree, does he? i think that's the point. maybe he has a "collage" though.

my grandfather by the way was a military guy. so i'm sure were many of your ancestors. perhaps they were horrible dumbasses, but my grandpa was a fine man and i loved him dearly. now shut your trap.


hmmmmfffff... i've already said what i had to say. but i've known many college professors who didn't have any dignity to be robbed in the first place. i hope you don't become one of them? really, i think you're stretching your point beyond reason.

I can't think of a male I'm directly descended from that wasn't in the military. None of them are "stupid."

But yeah, I think now is not the best time to join the military. If only I was in the same situation in peacetime.

My dad joined during Vietnam, but he joined the navy so he wouldn't be drafted into the army. Worked out well for him.

You know, you could be following in George W's footsteps.

Can people read the whole thread perhaps instead of just replying to the first post?

your expectations for the internet are way too high!

i salute you, sir
thank you for supporting our country

Oh yes. This is the reason why I never post in the infinitely thread.

This post reminds me of a guy I knew who hated the word cunt so much that he would fly into a rage if anyone said it infront of him. As a result we said cnut of cunt instead and cnutry instead of country. OK, not very interesting, carry on.

I did say "Most". If everyone in the millitary was a dumbarse, nothing at all would work. There has to be a degree of intelligent people. But from my personal experience of visiting people who were in the millitary and being around a great deal of them. I would say they are in the minority.

My grandfather to was in the millitary. A hugely intelligent and lovely man. But he would have agreed with my comment whole-heartenly. He even turned down hid medals. I've seen the military beat people down and take all their pride from them. Of course the millitary is needed. Im not insane. But Its still horrible and I would not recommend the millitary to anyone. If you think of all the endless things you can do with your life....

I'm sorry if you misunderstood me, i was merely talking from what I have seen myself.

I'm a captain in the Air Force reserves. You might have to salute me.

Oh man, I know what you mean. Don't do that, I know what I am saying I was thinking of joining the Army as well, but realized I am not that kind. I get horrified and traumatized quickly. My mind is not up to the army. Also growing up sucks, I have been dealing with this for some time now, there are other factors that are involved with my depression. Maybe college isn't for you, try a vocational school or just get a part-time job.

I know that I will have to repeat this semester over, but I don't care because I am seeking help, and that is all that matters. And what i really want is to get better, there is still time for me to do something with my life, I am only twenty-two. You will find something to do, trust me. You are just going into the mode most of us early twenty-something people are going through. We are at that stage when we have to figure out what to do with our life.Especially if we come from lower-income families, we have no options to fuck around, and that leads to much more pressure. So my suggestion is really think about your options, and research it.

Yeah, I'm just going to get a job and a car. I think just being able to go places, being able to ask girls to hang out and say "hey I can pick you up" will give my life a lot more clarity

job and car sounds good.

now if you moved to new york the car would be unnecessary.

maybe also in philly?

I did before posting, and none of it changed my opinion on the subject.


Shave your head, Get your wings, and perish.
I dont care.