Bears' taste in music
 

This is what they play in this large men's traditional gay pub in central london that we go to, every now and then:

Sonic Youth
Tortoise
Jesus & Mary Chain
Metallica
Captain Beefheart
Motorhead
ac/dc
Royal Trux

Yesterday i spotted this large mountain wearing a Burzum t-shirt.

That ain't bad...except for Metallica.

Not just a bar but an entire scene with bars, coach trips, football team, bear mass etc. Anything that would get them to shift the pound.

Is bears' expenditure still referred to as the "pink pound"? Or is that only for camp gays?

Gays go camping?

I don't know. It's only in the past few years that bears have become more and more popular on the gay scene. I think that's because more and more guys are tired of silly, bitchy camp queens, even though fetishizing someone just because of their body size is just as bad.

edit - sonicl

[quote=Nefeli]hahaa...thats awesome..
although would expect that they might need the variety, or what if a nonbear (dont know if there s a term here) wants to "join"?

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They're called 'chasers'.

Absolutely. There's nothing wrong with using those terms, and they have been invented by gays themselves, so there's nothing offensive about them. In my experience bears are just happy to be thought of as that, rather than, erm, fat b......... It gives them the status of sex gods, rather than being thought of as someone who might have a slight eating problem, and therefore a mental one too. I just find it kinda wrong, because i don't like people who define their sex appeal by their own looks alone, but then i find a lot of things wrong in general.

looks or no looks, how does one define their own sex appeal?

By making themselves fall into a category of people who are the object of sexual desire.

i guess that's probably easier if you are gay

And it was indeed referred to gay stereotypical types more than anything.

I define my sex appeal as excellent!

so your saying guys make a point of becoming bears? i always assumed they were bears because they didn't give a shit.

Exactly. I can't count how many times a simple chat with someone lead to the question 'mine or yours?'. You start thinking that a lot of gays are mainly motivated by sex and not much else. I repeat, a lot of gay men, not all of us.

They are more conscious of being that now, and that's because they seem on demand a lot at the moment. If you have a proliification of gay bars and clubs that are mostly frequented by hairy big types, i assume that you are making quite a point of being known as a bear.

i think that's just men, not specificly gays. if women had the sex drive of men we'd still be living in caves.

You're right to an extent, but read Nefeli's post above mine, because it says it better than i did. Sex comes up constantly in a lot of conversations amongst gays, that's a fact.

Are there a lot of bears around? And how common among gays is a taste for bears?

What I'm asking, I suppose, is does a fat bloke have a better chance of getting his end away as a gay than as a straight guy?

so, bears are the gay kings. haha great... what's so sex appealling in bear?

that doesn't surprise me though, that's what males want, and i guess what happens without females to keep guys in check.

i reckon that any human male has a better chance of getting his end away as a gay.

They generally are regarded as more manly looking or acting (depends, because you also get big barbaras too), so they are sought after by the chasers like a child in a candy store. I like manly types myself, but their appeal disappears if they are 'acting' like they belong to a category. I can also afford myself to do that, being the sexy swan that i am.

that hapens amongst heterosexuals too. we just dont talk about fucking each other.

so the macho philosophy really works amongst gays. that's understandable.

Not constantly, no way. There is also a certain type of gay man who feeds his sense of humour off shallow and repetitive camp humour that isn't funny in the slightest.

so what are all the categories and what do they mean?

bears
muscle marys
big barbaras
chasers

what else?

I suspect that a swan may be a gay categorisation too.

"Faithful to one lover"? Or just "likes to wear feathers"?

italian stallion?

Totally.

Bears - Big hairy types, not to be confused with overweight guys.
Chasers - Guys who are after sex with bears. They fall into two categories:

- Camp/fey types
- Butch and bearded types who are not fat.


Big Barbaras -I made this up myself to describe big hairy guys who are camp.

Chavs - They congregate mainly at scally nights in places like The White Swan in east london.

Gents - Guys who work or dress up as people who work in the city.

Not to mention those who seem to thrive on making bitchy comments to all and sundry. They deserve death, or at least a good shoeing in the gonads.

Yes, them. The sad thing is that they are not even half as witty or sarcastic as they think they are. I really hate people like that.

so what do you call gay guys who aren't fat and aren't camp and just seem like regular blokes? i know a couple who are like that

Guys.

Camp.

what's a camp gay? and a swan?

Somewhat overly camp?

That's an interesting question, if you consider that it's been scientifically proven that you are born with homosexual genes , if you discount people who have 'put on' sexualities. Those genes probably affect your vocal cords and that's why some men sound effeminate. There are also guys who camp it up to get noticed, but you know that already, you big girl, don't you?

yeah on the subject of genetics and at the risk of ruffling a few feathers i think that a lot of the time you can identify that a guy is gay just by their facial features.