Mexico to legalize opium,weed,cocaine,LSD.
 

great, now we'll have more drugs in mexico and more for everyone here in america...dumb everyone up. it will be even more of a clusterfuck between Mexican-American relations. Ever get the feeling things continue to go in the wrong direction?

I think this has already been posted about, but yes, I agree. The world is coming to an end. Repent, etc.

Fortunately or unfortunately i live far away from Mexico.

fortunately or unfortunately, i live in mexico

the law has not past the senate yet, they can reject it.

and this is old news by the way

" Mexican Sen. Jorge Zermeno, a member of Fox's National Action Party, spoke twice in support of decriminalization before the Senate's 53-26 vote Friday shortly after midnight"..

i believe it is official. Fox just has to sign.

yr retarded! have you even looked at the numbers?

mexico has yet too, but will more then likely legalize possession of

.5 grams of cocaine
.5 grams of heroin
.25 grams of speed
5 grams of weed
.00025 grams of LSD
.07 grams of PCP
.25 grams of dried mushrooms
2.2 lbs of peyote (he it is mexico after all)

that is hardly the numbers which will allow a flood of drug trafficing. further, it is still illegal to traffic or sell any of these drugs in Mexico, it is just legal to possess such quantities for "personal use".

What are they considering speed?

The senate has indeed voted on and passed the bill. It is sitting on Fox's desk awaiting his signature. Since he has given his support for the bill, it is likely that it will pass.

does it occur to u that by loosening drug laws it could be the start of the liberalization of drug use, drug laws, and drug trafficking as a whole? it ceratinly doesn't make one "retarded" to believe that..haha. actually, it's a fact that drug use and trafficking will go up b/c of this. haha. maybe u don't care.

I don't really see the validity to this argument. Is it necessarily a fact that drug use will go up because drugs are illegal? I doubt it will have a large impact on the number of drug users at all. The idea that all of the sudden the demand for drugs will increase is a little far fetched. The people that want to do drugs do them, plain and simple. A person who was anti-drug before the law will not suddenly become a drug user because it's legal. Alcohol is legal and plenty of people choose not to drink.
Will trafficking necessarily go up? The police force isn't decreasing in size. Yet they don't have to get caught up in catching small time users and then tying up the judicial system by prosecuting them. They can use their resources more effectively to go after the supply of the drugs. The only way to win a drug war is to eradicate the supply because the demand will always exist. I'm not saying it's a winnable war, but that is the only way to win it.

The fact that everyone in Amsterdam is hooked on drugs and fucking prostitutes supports your position.

all right!!!! now people will be stupid and on drugs!!!!

2.2 lbs of peyote? everyone's going to be trippin'

I think I read that this was signed into law.

i skipped some of these posts but loosening of personal use doesn't mean easing up on drug traficking

the fact is people are gonna do these drugs, and in greater quantities, whether they're legal or not. The point of decriminilization in Mexico is so that their prison systems aren't as overcrowded with non-violent drug offenders us ours are in america. I think it's a good idea. PCP though? That's pretty heavy but whatever. Drug trafficking will continue anyway even if this wasn't the case. Does this mean that the governement is going to regulate it like you can go down to the corner store and buy some pcp. Sweet.

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FOX is balking on the bill http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060504/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_decriminalizing_drugs;_ylt=ApRjjYCaOKaPO28b .IDgZWNI2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA----

He came to his senses.

crazy in all.

That's a really good point.

did it ever occur to you that drug laws are unconstitutional from any form of government, completely waste billions of dollars a year arresting and persecuting millions of petty users, and is a scapegoat for all of the ills of our society, in much the way immigrants are becoming that scapegoat in the eyes of good ol amerikkkan patriots, who associate patriotistm with words like wetback and nigger.

it is not a fact that drug traffic will increase, because Vicente Fox is on Bush's side of the fence in this regard, and he has been strengthening Mexican enforcement. the law does not affect selling or distribution, those laws remain the same. IT IS A FACT that if you legalize drugs, to eliminate the cartal/mafia trade that you are so affraid of. It is just a way for the Mexican legal system to reduce its burden, like the US should, which in some cases 60-75% of inmates in State and Federal prisons are in for drug crimes, often times repeat possession charges. now that is retarded! when you adjust for the proportion of people incarcerated and the success of the US Prison system and ending recidivism, the US spends more $$$ on prison then on schools! now that is retarded, but you my friend, for agreeing with them are close.

Um, didn't someone already post a thread a couple days ago about this?

Go get your "online" degree in Political Science in 9 weeks!!!

Like i said, it is a fact that if u make drugs more accessable by legalizing them, the use and trafficking of drugs will go up. U can water that down with yr dribble all u want. But its common sense. The other shit u bring up are different matters, altogether. i.e. the cost to U.S taxpayers, toll on prisons etc. It sounds like u r pro-Mexican legalization of LSD, Opium,etc..? That's retarded. Fortunately, Bush and the federal govt. seems to have applied some pressure and made FOX realzie, "not such a good idea"...

Why? i already have one from a 4 yr institution. That tops an online 9 week degree, just so u know. u still buggin me to tutor u? is that what this is about..haha.

I don't agree with your assumption that legalizing drugs makes them more accessable. There will be no new supply of drugs... it's been there all along. If the drugs were decriminalized, people would still have to get them from illegal dealers. Cops spending less time finding users means that they can spend more time finding dealers and stopping deals from going down.
The only valid reasoning about drug use in Mexico going up is the fact that a ton of tourists (who already do drugs in the first place) will now come to Mexico in search of legal drugs. It's the same thing that happened in Amsterdam. The people there that do drugs aren't the people that live there. It's the tourists that come for the cheap thrills.
Your willingness to tell people what they should do with their own bodies frightens me.

U don't agree with me that legalizing drugs makes them more accessable??
Say that again to yourself. That makes no sense.So we're gonna bust the sellers of the now legal drugs, but not the possesser? Talk about a convoluted message. The assumption that people that already do the drug will be the only ones to seek it out is shortsighted b/c just by the virtue of legalizing something, u r sending the message that it is ok to do. People then will say, hey, it's legal, so it's not so bad. There will be millions. Amsterdam is weed only and it's very controlled. But Mexico and our issues with controlling the border ..? legalizing drugs is a bad idea..

It's not legalization... it's decriminalization for possession. I apologize for using the wrong term. If someone was caught in the process of buying the drugs they would still be punished under the law.
The dangers of being involved in the drug culture still exist as much as ever. This does not make it safer for people to be involved in the illegal activity of buying and selling drugs.
How will they possibly be more accessable? Do you realize how accessable they are right now? The paternalistic thinking that you exude is a worry to me. Maybe you do things because the government tells you it's right or don't do things because the government tells you it's wrong. Maybe I have too much faith in individuals? I don't really think so.
Ever thought about the idea that full-scale legalization might actually create more obstacles for younger people to get drugs? The supply could then be monitored? It's a reality that the demand will not subside. In many cases the risks of the drug culture come from the dangerous activity of buying and selling and not from the drugs themselves.
There are many sides to this argument. Open and civil debate about it is important and we should keep it up.

thank you nature scene, for making that point. ricechex must not be a casual drug user, or know any, because he clearly agrees with the shitstem on this one, which is as I said twice before, retarded. decriminalization does not lead to increase in use. criminalization has NEVER been observed to decrease drug use, and prison itself is not successful at ending recidivism as I also said before. isn't the intent of incriminating people for their behavior to end that so-called criminal or deviant behavior to begin with? so ricechex, is this not more logical then what you are saying?

if punishing people for their behavior does not stop the behavior, shouldn't you look for another option if you wish to stop their behavior other then that punishment which does not work?

"It's not legalization... it's decriminalization for possession". ..or decriminilization is legalization. It's the same thing. Actually, i do partake of the weedage. i'm in 2 bands so i'm around it alot. I just think it is not a good idea to legalize possession and then bust dealers. That alone is hypocrisy. There are tons more reasons why it would be bad for America to legalize in MExico, especially considering the timing of said legalization, and our border situation.