Listen up dorks: Harry Potter 7 discussion thread
 

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Kreacher's Tale was a great chapter, as was King's Cross and the chapter preceding it.

HOWEVER

The Epilogue was unbelievably shitty.
And the final list of characters who died was disappointing.
I also think I missed Hogwarts a little, though it wouldn't have been the same without Dumbledore anyway.

Harry should have died. As expected, Snape also died but not in the sort of way I had hoped. I also wish he had been more of a presence in the book, rather than coming in for the last few chapters and that's about it. Remus and Tonks died, but who really cares? Dobby died and that was sad, I'll give you that much. Fred died and it wasn't sad because they didn't even talk about how George felt about LOSING HIS TWIN BROTHER FOR GODSSAKE PEOPLE. I was ready for a big tearjerker of a book, and I didn't even sniffle.

When I read the Harry Potter books, I could not give a shit about the characters' romantic relationships with one another. And I hate reading about it. Back in the day, all the books really contained was a hell of a lot of gay subtext. And then all of a sudden Harry starts making out with girls, and Remus marries Tonks. WTF PEOPLE. I miss my old Harry Potter, the boy who lived in a closet (for godssake people, can it get any more obvious?), and all of the man-on-man hugging, and whatnot.

YOUR THOUGHTS?

Epilogue was hardly even an epilogue. It was like "Look at them for 10 pages 19 years in the future." Big fucking deal. I wanted to know everything that happened afterwards dammit!

I pretty much agree with all you said. I wish Harry died. And I hated all the romance.

I really hope she doesn't write any more Harry Potter related material.

JK said she was going to write a Harry Encyclopedia to add additional info about other characters at the end and more info about characters throughout the series, etc etc.

I was really really bummed that Lupin died

Oh, a HP Encyclopedia wouldn't be sooo bad I suppose.

Eh, Lupin was sad, but I didn't really care. It was mentioned very quickly and I was like..."whatevs" and kept reading.

Didn't read the book, but the last bit + epilogue. SOOOO lame.

And not that I care about the books, but killing Harry would be WAY too easy. However, it should have been done better, instead of just a fucking deflected spell and Voldemort's down for good. LAME.

*lookit me go, like I read the book*

Hahaha, yeah. Expelliarmus?! What the fuck. Like that's supposed to kill Voldemort.

The whole Elder Wand thing screwed me up, like you have to solve a word puzzle to figure out whose it actually was.

Also, Harry's use of the Unforgivable curses goes unchecked almost.

Oh man I know, the Elder Wand, like what the hell was up with that? Hahaha...I mean the twisted logic involved was completely hilarious.

I hear ya. After Dumbledore dying in Book 6, I was expecting this book to really go all out on the sadness factor, because Dumbledore's death made me cry like a baby. But the thing is, any character could die and it wouldn't be a big deal, at least not unless she wrote it as if it were one. When Dumbledore died, she wrote it as if the world was ending. With most of the deaths in Book 7, it was like, "Well, so-and-so didn't make it....but enough of that, who's going to see the new Transformers movie?"

while i don't necesary think harry potter fanery sucks (although they are pretty dorky), i, for the world, don't like ak rollins or whatever she's called at all...something about her presence.

boredom brings hate to be shared.

Speaking of death, I want to know more about the motherfucking veil in the Ministry that Sirius fell through!!!!!!!!!!! I want to know more now!!!

No kidding! I was totally expecting him to come meandering out of it and have a story to tell or some other nonsense.

I was expecting Kreacher's tale to be something about him, and I was waiting and hoping that there would be some big Sirius story, but no dice.

I'm still mad about him dying and the screwed it up in the movie, so HAD he come back in book 7, they'd been SOL when it came time to make the movie for it.

If you're reading JK!: I want a book (or series, but one would be sufficient) about Sirius Black.

The epilogue was crap. I don't think that she should have included it. Predictable too.

OH MY GAWD it's all ruined.

no point in waiting for my kid to finish reading.....now I know what happens.***

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y'all have fun rubbing one out without me, I'm going to go back to practicing my cruciatus techniques now.....

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***DISCLAIMER: any surprises that HP7.0 brought were ruined well before I clicked on this thread, thanks to my wife's need to....well......RUIN. geekery demands that I read it, although I'm pissed off that I'm last in line to be able to read our copy.

I agree, I don't like the harry potter hype, not that I dislike the fans nor think they are in any shape dorky. I didn't like the big queues of people who waited to buy it first, I don't like the "you look like harry potter" jokes because I wear glasses.

i was so into the whole book until the last fifty pages. the ending and the epiglogue sucked dick. first of all that like weird king's cross heaven thing was ridik. and what the fuck was up with the cliche showdown between harry and voldy.

i was pissed that we never found out if harry ever became and auror. also that no one really significant died, except for voldemort i guess.. i was heartbroken though when his wand broke.

A lot of people like the books--who cares? I could think of a million worse things to do than stand around in line for a book one night out of your life. It's not about getting it first, it's about avoiding spoilers, and the only way to do that is to basically get it the day it comes out, shut yourself in your room and read all day and all night. I didn't turn on my computer or my TV until I finished it. I also asked off from work so that I could read it in the first place.


First of all, whoever said the King's Cross chapter was supposed to be heaven? I thought it was a very interesting thing to do. Very indefinite and left open to interpretation. It kind of reminded me of the first time I saw someone get hypnotized. After the person came out of it, they described to me what it was like. The way the King's Cross chapter was set up sounded very similar to that person's story. Power of suggestion and all that...they were seeing these things because someone was suggesting that they existed. It's hard to explain, I just thought that chapter was kind of eerie and unexpected. I liked it a lot. Harry still should have died, but I digress...

I was expecting Harry to die, but to be honest, it really doesn't bother me at all that he is alive. I guess if I had started reading the series later on I would have wanted him to die, but I think the inner child that started reading Harry Potter in 3rd grade wanted him to live all along.

I think I just wanted a good cry of some sort, and I didn't get it, so I'm taking it out on Harry.

I don't start any book wanting a good cry.

Freak.

You guys make feel like an outsider, but whatever. I am indie :p

I didn't want him to die since I started reading them in year 6. I knew when it announced he had to die with 60 pages left it wasn't going to happen. I was also pissed that they mentioned nothing of the veil, the King's Cross chapter didn't make any sense and I really wished the end lasted longer after Voldy dying. Doesn't mention anything of the character's feelings after all that death.
Unfortunately I'm a sucker for the romance crap so was miffed that there was no mention of Ginny at the end.

On the whole it was OK but for the final installment of something I've been reading since I was 11 I think it should have been better, perhaps longer.

I really don't see the fuss with this book/movie.

I watched the first one the other week for the first time and it was alright.

Neither do I Norma J. But it is a phenomenon, nonetheless.

Watched it? The movies are pretty awful compared to the books. I only keep seeing the movies for the nerd-dom.

i watched the first half of the first movie last night and thought it was hilarious. they're tiny and ron has the most absurd facial expressions. it was great. i recommend watching it if you haven't in a while

My point was the first time I chose to partake in anything Harry Potter was to watch the first movie the other week - and it was alright. It certainly didn't make me want to read any of the books though, let alone line up at absurd times to get a copy when it first hits the shelves.

People are going bonkers over this and have since it's conception and I don't understand it. People say "Read the books, read the books!", but they're definitely low on the priority list.
I also don't think it's a nerdy or dorky thing to partake in, considering 95% of society would then be nerds, therefore detracting the nerd and dork factor.

I mean, I don't mind that it's popular, I just don't get the craze. I'll see the rest of the movies sometime when my girlfriend wants to revisit them as she's a fan of ol' Harry and co.

But you can't 'get the craze' by watching the movies!

I also imagine you might be too old to get into it now. I probably wouldn't give two shits about HP if I had started reading the books now.

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Sure you can, I'm sure alot of people haven't read the books.

Anyway, I can kinda see your point.

The first two movies are really, really bad. They completely fail to capture what is so great about the books. The other movies (especially the third and fifth) are well-made, but their problem is that they leave out subplots and all sorts of things that really make the books gripping.

Yea, the other day i watched the latest movie (is that the fifth?) without reading the book, and to me it made no sense whatsoever.

I agree. the whole wand thing was so convoluted that it seems as if she had an "OH SHIT" moment while writing the last bit.

it felt like it was just something that she came up with at the last moment as opposed to the rest of the book (of note: the last pages of the last book of stephen king's dark tower series felt the same).

you're right about the unforgivable curses too. I wondered why nobody batted an eye as he was tossing them out left and right toward the end.

I could pick apart the tiny details, but all in all it was one of my favorite books of the series.

I'm kind of sad that I don't have more waiting for me to read. :(

i've started reading them all again. it's nice to read the first few books and know what's going to happen to all the characters. somehow the shocker parts in the early books still give me goosebumps!