Is or Are?
 

When talking about bands, do you say is or are?

Sonic Youth is an awsome band...

or

Fallout Boy are an awful band...

I think both are correct. It's very debatable.

But what do you use?

...damn, I messed up the poll and I can't add one anymore.

I don't see what difference it makes though. Honestly.

i say is. but, like you said it is debatable.

you gonna be on xbox live later?

Is. The subject is singular. One band.

hayden is right...1 band not many sonic youth's

i've got a dislexic heart; so don't ask me

That depends on what you consider to be Sonic Youth.

Sonic Youth as a single entity (is) or as a group of people (are). I think it can go either way.

No! Our wireless router is fucked up, and we have to use the cable that plugged into my xbox to plug into the very computer that I am on now. So I won't be on in a while.

Sonic Youth = A BAND

A BAND. NOT NUMEROUS PEOPLE.

Hayden is right, grammatically speaking. but, in the whole scheme of things, does it really fuckin' matter?

YES. IT DOES.

I still say it can go either way.

Do you refer to a football team that way?

"The Raiders is crap"?

A TEAM. NOT NUMEROUS PEOPLE.

"Raiders" is not a collective noun. "Youth" is. "Team" is, too.

So....Raiders are a collective pro-noun?

no, "Raiders" is a plural noun, like "members" or "guitars".

Right on.

Mmmhmm. Once again, who cares?

The White Stripes are
Sonic Youth is
The Flaming Lips are
Pavement is

Grammatical losers.

hmm, good point. but, in the case or our beloved Sonic Youth, i still think that Hayden got it right.

wait a mintue.

you used "the" in those sentences.

is SY really The SY?

wow man. what a heated debate!

i say you guys just have a break-dance competition. and the winner will automaticly be right.

alex vs. hayden let's get it on!

god, i'm not even listening to my own argument. this shit DOES NOT MATTER.

well...i guess we're both right. if we refer to them as Sonic Youth, "is" should be used, but if we refer to them as the Sonic Youth, "are" should be used.

Thats one album out of fourteen or whatever though, power in numbers.

We're all losers.

agreed.

more power to ya, man.

shit, i dunno.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music_standards#.22is.2 2_versus_.22are.2C.22_regarding_band_names

Good ol' wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki pedia.

hmm, that didn't help much.

Yeah, I think the point is that there isn't a good rule - just say what sounds right. The Beatles are.....Sonic Youth is.....whatever

What about Was Not Was?

Was (Not Was) is.

EDIT: ok, after a visit to allmusic.com, Was (Not Was) was (not is).

Well, I try to be pretty nice to everyone, but I can't do anything about it if someone interprets something negatively.
I'm really not sure how you got 'asshole' from my question.

i believe AssBlaster said that in jest.

Maybe you're right.
I was all ready for a messageboard fight, but clearly he got scared and ran away.

lol
That's exactly what I meant.
What did I win!

new development: my father (a newspaper editor) thinks that it should be "Sonic Youth are" and "the Sonic Youth is".

hahaha fucking laaaaame thread

this thread is stupid.