Joy Division vs. New Order
 

As several boardies have said they preferred New Order to Joy Division, I thought a poll asking which of those 2 bands you think is the best could be a good idea (I was surprised because I always thought that Joy Division were undeniably better).

I come down on the side of New Order.

Joy Division were good, but wouldn't have been as legendary if it weren't for Ian Curtis dying the way he did.

New Order have written some incredible songs.

what crumb's said.

New Order

I vote for Joy Division. New Order made a lot of stinkers. Plus my favorite New Order song was actually written when they were Joy Division.

The Can vs. Faust thread? Where I said it's like comparing Mozart to Beck?
This is like comparing Boredoms to Bloodhound Gang. Give me a break. Joy Division for the win.

I predict a young/old divide.

Angsty teenagers for JD.Haha

ali vs foreman

to tell you the truth, i don't listen to ian curtis lyrics.

Joy Division. No contest.
As someone else said, New Order's best stuff was written when they were Joy Division.

Joy Division were legendary way before Ian Curtis' death.
In my house at least.

New Order entirely. I feel like Joy Division is the ashes to New Order's Pheonix, or something lame like that.

Of course, New Order did have a lot of stinkers.

Ridiculous question.
Joy Division without a doubt.
Ian's suicide did make them more famous but that doesn't take away the fact that they had brilliant songs.

I haven't been an "angsty teenager" for many years and I still vastly prefer Joy Division. New Order's first album is pretty great and I love Blue Monday and Low Life, but they made so much horrible stuff that it dilutes the great material to no end. The amount of weak tracks compared to great ones in JD's catalogue is so slim as to be statistically irrelevant.

joy division,

i dont really like new order,

joy division, new order are for pussies.

i think i'll listen to jd after black flag ends.

I almost always prefer bass-driven to synth-driven.

New Order were creative guys with a whole lot of funding to mess around, but that only makes them in league with the Chemical Brothers or some other hit and miss alternative pop laboratory with some amount of finger on the current.

Joy Division were one of the most important first generation post-punk bands, and ironically had infinitely more pop sense as an underbelly! That some of the same guys went on to make less edgy and simultaneously less relevant dance mix experiments... Ian obviously wasn't sticking around for that.

Totally Joy Division.

New Order is a mockery, especially compared to Joy Division. However, they do a fucking heartwrenching Ceremony (still an Ian/JD song).

And speaking of Joy Division! I can't wait to get my hands on those vinyl reissues!!! AHHH!

bam!

new order, absolutely! of course they've made records that are not masterpieces but in the 80's they were the best band in the world.

of course joy division were great too, and they never released a bad record, not even a bad song, but still (sic)... NEW ORDER!

Joy Division.

New Order never really did all that much for me.

yeah, i can concur with Joy Division being better. New Order's first album, Movement, is a classic and not unlike Joy Division too much. Their early Peel Session with Too Late, Turn the Heater On, is fantastic too. Other than that, they were just an 80's dance thing.

joy division


has new order broken up? like i know peter hook was all like "see you in court" but then i heard he was reconsidering breaking up the band due to the death of tony wilson. he said it made him reconsider things. so does anyone know the official status. also why peter hook became an ass all of a sudden?

has anyone ever seen him DJ, he came to ottawa once but i ddin't go see him because i was to young

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhNDKZmxRLM :cool:

Perfect kiss has frog solo and for me you just can't beat that.

Really? A new-wave dance group funded largely by white powder beats out Sonic Youth and Sun City Girls for best band in the '80s?

Joy Division without any doubts.

Yes.

i find it kind of disturbing when people think new order are awesome too

Don't be disturbed my friend.

monaco

yeah! not sure if they beat caroliner though.

I love them both

no one can beat caroliner.

yeah, i guess you're right.

I'm not entirelyt sure what this means... but Insight has a rubber ducky solo (hehe)... and that definitlely beats anything New Order ever did.

UH, JOY DIVSION

hands down.

THIS IS NOT EVEN A LEGITIMATE QUESTION.
thank you, that is all.

Maybe you'd prefer those polls then:

http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=14446

http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...206#post434206