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musefreek 08.31.2007 09:20 AM

london or new york?
 
???

sonicl 08.31.2007 09:31 AM

Chelsea SW6 > Chelsea 10011

gmku 08.31.2007 09:44 AM

New York City. At least there for the most part people still speak English.

Cantankerous 08.31.2007 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
Chelsea SW6 > Chelsea 10011

don't diss my 'hood, ho!

phoenix 09.01.2007 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
Chelsea SW6 > Chelsea 10011



that is the most awesome post.



London. by miles.

youthoftomorrow 09.01.2007 02:58 AM

Boise.

ZEROpumpkins 09.01.2007 03:09 AM

New York
Remember which American band came from there; without them, there'd be no SY board!

SynthethicalY 09.01.2007 03:25 AM

New York, but thinking London as well.

Glice 09.01.2007 04:44 AM

Have you noticed I've never been impressed with all your friends from New York and London?

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 09.01.2007 10:39 AM

New York is horrible.

Never been to London.

Tokolosh 09.01.2007 12:03 PM

Impossible to say and a bit silly to compare them to eachother. Both cities are great to visit or live in.

Disgruntled Youth 09.01.2007 12:09 PM

Raised in EN WHY SEA!!! Always!!!

davenotdead 09.01.2007 12:11 PM

this thread makes me want to visit neither....but i shall end up in nyc eventually methinks....

pbradley 09.01.2007 04:40 PM

Los Angeles!

Danny Himself 09.01.2007 05:28 PM

New York- and yeah I just spent all day in London, I went to covent garden, trafalgar square, westminster... but NYC does not compare in the slightest. Totally different league altogether.

demonrail666 09.02.2007 05:47 PM

London has more variety than NY, has more of a sense of a living city. NY is far better value though, and if you're looking simply to enjoy yourself, the Big Apple wins hands down.

racehorse 09.02.2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
London has more variety than NY,

i know what you mean by that. to me london doesn't feel like one city - it feels like a collection of many small towns linked by tube(probably because it is, as obviously "london" used to only mean the square mile).
because it is so spread out it feels really diverse - i never feel like i am in a massive city when i'm in hammersmith and fulham, or even islington, for example. nyc seems more compact, but i've never been there so i could be totally wrong.

Cantankerous 09.02.2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
New York City. At least there for the most part people still speak English.


they don't speak english in england?

Danny Himself 09.02.2007 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
they don't speak english in england?


Yes we do, but gmku, the sly devil, was referring to the huge influx of immigrants London has experienced recently.

Norma J 09.02.2007 07:39 PM

New York for sure. It's appeal by far out weighs London, for me.

Cantankerous 09.02.2007 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Himself
Yes we do, but gmku, the sly devil, was referring to the huge influx of immigrants London has experienced recently.

there's a kajillion people in new york who speak no english
so you know

Danny Himself 09.02.2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
there's a kajillion people in new york who speak no english
so you know


I'm familiar with such, what with that "give us your tired, huddled masses, etc" thing.

sarramkrop 09.03.2007 07:42 AM

They are two different places entirely. I find that when people moan a lot about London (which happens a lot), they generally have no life to speak for, or don't even know the place enough to really pass judgement. Just the other week I went strolling along the river in Wapping and the views from there would melt your heart, if you had one. I seriously advice any Londoner who posts on here to do that when when they think that everything in the city is shit. Personally, sometimes I hang around on the infamous gay scene, but the tag that it has never reveals how you get to know some of the weirdest people on the planet, but not bad weird, just genuinely interesting types. The public transport sucks, though. So, to conclude this brief(ish) rant, a place is only interesting if yourself is interesting enough to make it interesting.

Katy 09.03.2007 08:52 AM

Marry London, shag New York, chuck everywhere else off a cliff.

davenotdead 09.03.2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
So, to conclude this brief(ish) rant, a place is only interesting if yourself is interesting enough to make it interesting.


in many cases however, this may involve murder and/or rape

demonrail666 09.03.2007 05:48 PM

They're both great cities, but over the past ten years I've become overly frustrated with London. I've lived there all my life and just don't get all that excited by it. Being brought up in a place affects your perspective of it. Most actual Londoners are gonna be basic families who aren't that bothered about some exciting new bar or scene. What they notice is an infrastructure at the point of meltdown and escalating housing costs that, when combined, make it increasingly difficult to raise their family. Sad but true.

I'm sure actual NYers have a similar relationship with their city too.

Norma J 09.03.2007 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
They are two different places entirely. I find that when people moan a lot about London (which happens a lot), they generally have no life to speak for, or don't even know the place enough to really pass judgement. Just the other week I went strolling along the river in Wapping and the views from there would melt your heart, if you had one. I seriously advice any Londoner who posts on here to do that when when they think that everything in the city is shit. Personally, sometimes I hang around on the infamous gay scene, but the tag that it has never reveals how you get to know some of the weirdest people on the planet, but not bad weird, just genuinely interesting types. The public transport sucks, though. So, to conclude this brief(ish) rant, a place is only interesting if yourself is interesting enough to make it interesting.


But this applies to anywhere in the world. My hometown (and country) is beautiful but I don't go on about it on internet forums like I have some kind of superiority.

New York and London are not the only two places in the world worth going to.

!@#$%! 09.03.2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
there's a kajillion people in new york who speak no english
so you know


that's why new york is so fucking great

if it wasn't for them, new york would be just another yahoo town, like... most u.s. "cities" :p

cosmopolitism FTW

pbradley 09.03.2007 08:00 PM

San Francisco. Because that's were I live.

Also our Chinatown is larger than yours.

!@#$%! 09.03.2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Himself
Yes we do, but gmku, the sly devil, was referring to the huge influx of immigrants London has experienced recently.


Irish immigrants?

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.03.2007 09:27 PM

dubai

Cantankerous 09.03.2007 10:43 PM

basically, to answer the question, which i am aware that i never actually answered:
new york and london are both great cities, just like the whole of ireland that i've been to, paris, berlin, et al. i would actually like to live in berlin one day. i would've moved there instead of new york if i could but there were a couple of things preventing me from doing so...at this point in my life i don't think it would be wise for me to move out of the u.s., and my german is terrible.

Everyneurotic 09.03.2007 10:45 PM

i can't answer this question because i'm biased, i've never been to london and i've been to ny tons of times. i'm in deep love with ny but i'd love to go to london.

still, my ideal city (or place to live, however you want to read it) is mexico city.

krastian 09.03.2007 11:23 PM

I've always like London since the Real World was there......yeah, I went there. London seems slightly less insane and as much as I like insanity, I think I'd always take a less chill spot. NYC is still really great and historical on many levels though.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.03.2007 11:42 PM

in all seriousness, i prefer paris over london and nyc

Cantankerous 09.03.2007 11:45 PM

i love paris. love.
is your sig from breathless?

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.03.2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i love paris. love.
is your sig from breathless?

Oui.

I spent 3 weeks and a couple of days in Paris this summer, it was lovely.


p.s. i'll be in NYC on Oct 20th for JUSTICE... you should tag along with us! I think we have some extra tickets.

demonrail666 09.03.2007 11:51 PM

I've really limited myself in terms of exploring the world because I only speak English. Great cities like Rome, Barcelona, Tokyo, Paris, Berlin etc., are therefore difficult for me to fully appreciate. It pisses me off that my only real option outside of the UK is America. I really wish I'd put in the effort to learn another language when I was younger. Maybe I'll take night classes in Italian or Spanish or something.

Cantankerous 09.03.2007 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I've really limited myself in terms of exploring the world because I only speak English. Great cities like Rome, Barcelona, Tokyo, Paris, Berlin etc., are therefore difficult for me to fully appreciate. It pisses me off that my only real option outside of the UK is America. I really wish I'd put in the effort to learn another language when I was younger. Maybe I'll take night classes in Italian or Spanish or something.

america is NOT your only option:
australia
canada
south africa
ireland
the netherlands (they speak english very well there)

there are great things to be found in all of these countries.

also in most countries a lot of people do speak english, however you'll be better recieved if you make an attempt to speak their language first.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 09.03.2007 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
I've really limited myself in terms of exploring the world because I only speak English. Great cities like Rome, Barcelona, Tokyo, Paris, Berlin etc., are therefore difficult for me to fully appreciate. It pisses me off that my only real option outside of the UK is America. I really wish I'd put in the effort to learn another language when I was younger. Maybe I'll take night classes in Italian or Spanish or something.


Tokyo is amazing, but at times be a bit expensive.
I havent been to Berlin in a while, I think i'd probably like it better now that i'm older and can enjoy the night life.
Barcelona is so much fun, I love Spain.
You must visit the island of Ibiza for at least a week in your lifetime.
Italy is way cool, shopping is amazing, but I think I like Greece a tad more.


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