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demonrail666 09.12.2007 01:51 AM

American cities without a car
 
NY is easy (well manhattan anyway), SF (where i'm going next) seems fairly walking friendly but what other US cities are ok to visit without a car?

pbradley 09.12.2007 01:57 AM

San Francisco isn't walking-friendly, it is walking-mandatory.

demonrail666 09.12.2007 02:03 AM

so walking around areas like the Mission, Haight are easy enough right. The Haight was the only place i could find decent cheap rooms. Is that a decent spot to see elsewhere from?

pbradley 09.12.2007 02:11 AM

Sure you can. Haight street is prime walking real estate. I suggest that you get a bus pass if you want to venture into places like the warf (which is a tourist trap, though) or want head north to see the big red but called golden bridge.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 09.12.2007 02:14 AM

Pittsburgh isn't too bad, though you want a bus pass.

demonrail666 09.12.2007 02:58 AM

I have friends living in Pittsburgh who said exactly the same thing. Sounds like a nice city from what I hear.

yeah, I imagine a bus pass is necessary even in the smallest of cities. I imagine walking between Haight and the Mission is OK distance-wise. Anything I need to know about safety wise though (at night I mean)? It all seems pretty fine but you never know.

pbradley 09.12.2007 03:22 AM

As long as you aren't walking through the Tenderloin at night, you're A-Okay.

jon boy 09.12.2007 04:31 AM

i found ny and san francisco easy to get around without a car, the only place where the transport system was bad and you had to drive was LA. they should really invest more in public transport.

tesla69 09.12.2007 08:16 AM

The only "problem" you might have is guys trying to pick you up.

How the heck do you find cheap rooms in the Haight? Anywhere in the Bay Area?

jon boy 09.12.2007 11:36 AM

whats seattle like public transport wise? i am going there in october.

pbradley 09.12.2007 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
The only "problem" you might have is guys trying to pick you up.

Are you serious? I've lived here for three years and nothing like that has happened to me or anyone I know. You're not really going to be hit on by guys unless you're hanging out at Castro street's gay bars dressed up for the kill.

floatingslowly 09.12.2007 11:53 AM

you don't need a car in Austin, but you might need a bike.


"10 points if you can hit the hippie"

!@#$%! 09.12.2007 12:00 PM

washington dc is awesome on foot. better on foot than by car, in fact.

a profuse network of sidewalks, abundant street theatre, lots of buses, an excellent metro system, and cheap cabs for when you're too drunk to walk home.

worth visiting for a couple of days on your way down from nueva york. the chinese buse are a cheap way to shuttle between both chinatowns.

pantophobia 09.12.2007 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
whats seattle like public transport wise? i am going there in october.


the bus system is very excellent, and walking around was very nice even though it is hilly, although i did have a guide in Naomi who knows the bus schedule

there is also a monorail that goes from downtown to the space needle, but i don't know how convient it really is

Danny Himself 09.12.2007 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantophobia
the bus system is very excellent, and walking around was very nice even though it is hilly, although i did have a guide in Naomi who knows the bus schedule

there is also a monorail that goes from downtown to the space needle, but i don't know how convient it really is


The seattle monorail is more for pleasure than anything else. It will take you from the seattle center to a mall near Macy's, downtown. Most of Seattle's sights are within walking distance of eachother.. except maybe the Zoo, which you'll have to take the bus to. I was in Seattle for a week with a hire car and we didn't use the car once.

Also a walking-friendly city is Denver. Just about everything interesting in Denver is off 16th street, which has free shuttles running up and down all day.

hat and beard 09.12.2007 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
you don't need a car in Austin, but you might need a bike.


"10 points if you can hit the hippie"


Er... I'm going to have to disagree. Mind, I DO get by with just a bike and feet, but i'taint easy. Much of the best stuff in Austin is well outside the downtown/U of T area. Plus Capital Metro suxxx!!!

MellySingsDoom 09.12.2007 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
You're not really going to be hit on by guys unless you're hanging out at Castro street's gay bars dressed up for the kill.


Which, naturally, DR666 will be, arf arf arf.

PS :D

Rob Instigator 09.12.2007 02:23 PM

just make sure you wear loose trousers so yr meat can swing the pendulum style all hefty and yr balls will look like heavy door knockers and....

SynthethicalY 09.12.2007 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
Are you serious? I've lived here for three years and nothing like that has happened to me or anyone I know. You're not really going to be hit on by guys unless you're hanging out at Castro street's gay bars dressed up for the kill.


That is one area I am staying out. People shold come more often to L.A. it is not as bad. So what if you are in your car three hours to your trip, and three hours going back. That is why you make month long trip when coming to L.A.

Cantankerous 09.12.2007 08:27 PM

los angeles SUCKS without a car.
new york is easy enough.
i don't really go enough places in the united states to know. chicago is okay.

SynthethicalY 09.12.2007 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
los angeles SUCKS without a car.
new york is easy enough.
i don't really go enough places in the united states to know. chicago is okay.


I know, now that I have a car I go anywhere.

jon boy 09.13.2007 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantophobia
the bus system is very excellent, and walking around was very nice even though it is hilly, although i did have a guide in Naomi who knows the bus schedule

there is also a monorail that goes from downtown to the space needle, but i don't know how convient it really is


thanks man, i was thinking about seeing if there are any board members willing to show me around, doubtful though.

Inhuman 09.13.2007 01:41 PM

In canada, Montreal is great. Metro system, bus, and train take you everywhere.

Пятхъдесят Шест 09.13.2007 03:39 PM

I'll go ahead and say Omaha is a prime walking city. But then again, I'm not sure where you'd walk to.

Savage Clone 09.13.2007 03:49 PM

Minneapolis is fantastic for biking. I like it less so for public transit, but it's getting better. I prefer year round biking though. Many bike-only roadways and many bike lanes on others, with improvements to this system every year. Plus it's pretty flat.

Disgruntled Youth 09.13.2007 03:50 PM

Kentucky!!! I ride my bike everyday. very biker friendly well sorta.

jon boy 09.13.2007 04:06 PM

when i was walking in LA people where looking at me like i was homeless just because i didnt have a car.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.13.2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
los angeles SUCKS without a car.
new york is easy enough.
i don't really go enough places in the united states to know. chicago is okay.


i've been living without a car for three and a half years here in Los Angeles, and I'd say that the past have been no more worse then the years previous where I drove...

Danny Himself 09.13.2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
when i was walking in LA people where looking at me like i was homeless just because i didnt have a car.


I got the same in Cheyenne, WY. It was like a ghost town. But with pickup trucks.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.13.2007 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Himself
I got the same in Cheyenne, WY. It was like a ghost town. But with pickup trucks.


i can imagine that in Cheyenne you need a vehicle drastically more then you do in LA, the bus must not take you too far

SynthethicalY 09.13.2007 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
i've been living without a car for three and a half years here in Los Angeles, and I'd say that the past have been no more worse then the years previous where I drove...


True when I used to ride the metro it was not bad nor good. Just a state of monotony.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.14.2007 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
True when I used to ride the metro it was not bad nor good. Just a state of monotony.


exactly, but to my interpretation, this experience is the same as sitting in traffic, which is inevitable here. LA needs to follow China's example and just ban 1 million cars from the street and make everyone take the bus.


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