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demonrail666 09.19.2007 04:16 AM

All your punk fashion questions answered here
 
Because there's nothing more 'gnarly' than customising:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFV5WisS8Uw

sonicl 09.19.2007 04:22 AM

How many rips should I have in my jeans to be truely rebellious?

sarramkrop 09.19.2007 04:36 AM

Unless Luella Bartley answers them, I'm not interested.

demonrail666 09.19.2007 05:16 AM

hey. just so you know, I'm not gonna 'answer' your questions. I was just really referring to the youtube thingumy. Besides. anyone whose actually seen me would know that, well, I'm not really qualified.

ALIEN ANAL 09.19.2007 05:19 AM

even you can be a proud punk

sarramkrop 09.19.2007 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
hey. just so you know, I'm not gonna 'answer' your questions. I was just really referring to the youtube thingumy. Besides. anyone whose actually seen me would know that, well, I'm not really qualified.

It was a joke, I wasn't refering to you at all. And YOU DO look like a punk, in a good way.

sonicl 09.19.2007 05:30 AM

I feel misled. I thought you were taking over the "Ask Pookie" mantle, but only answering questions on your specialized subject.

atsonicpark 09.19.2007 07:17 AM

I didn't get a chance to watch this yet, but does it include tips on how to carve "I NEED A FIX" in your chest the best way? (I vote for a safety pin)

HECKLER SPRAY 09.19.2007 07:21 AM

That 's ridiculous, the guy talks like an animal reporter. Too serious.
Nice comb...

Rob Instigator 09.19.2007 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
hey. just so you know, I'm not gonna 'answer' your questions. I was just really referring to the youtube thingumy. Besides. anyone whose actually seen me would know that, well, I'm not really qualified.


that's false advertising man!

king_buzzo 09.19.2007 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
How many rips should I have in my jeans to be truely rebellious?


hahaha ripped jeans are gay.

Rob Instigator 09.19.2007 10:45 AM

look at this drug addict
 


look at this stupid bitch. her jeans ar so riped they are just a belt and butt flap! hulk hogan's daughter
 

here she is again with the same jeans but different show
 


now these ripped jeans are gay
 

SynthethicalY 09.19.2007 10:57 AM

I was going to ask, what was the best color to achieve that punk look, but since you are not answering, I will take my questions elsewhere.

mangajunky 09.19.2007 11:03 AM

punk fashion=oxymoron

Go buy/steal a guitar and make some music/noise and shut the fuck up...fucking youtube dweeb.
I blame Malcolm McLaren.

sarramkrop 09.19.2007 11:05 AM

Punks are so 30 years ago, let alone last season.

sarramkrop 09.19.2007 11:08 AM

It was a joke, dimwit. Joke, you know, like when someone cracks a joke, and you laugh? A joke.

sarramkrop 09.19.2007 11:08 AM

Actually no, punk is so last year.

sarramkrop 09.19.2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
well, that comment taken with yr signature in consideration (which i somewhat agree with) didnt make it seem like you were joking, "dimwit".

I wrote a long reply to this and also about the topic of the thread but then I thought that it's not worth it. You're not worth it. Punk!

Rob Instigator 09.19.2007 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
i've got a few pairs of ripped jeans, not through choice mind. eyey a nudge is as good as a wink.

who's that baglady rob?


mary kate olsen, the little troll-like twin from FULL HOUSE TV show
 


I predicted her and her sister would end up doing incest rimjob porno, and she looks to be getting close!

Glice 09.19.2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mangajunky
punk fashion=oxymoron


The perrenial problem with punk is that the people who made punk often looked the shit while the people who listen to punk look shit.

I am aware that the Pistols (who looked the shit) were not the first punk band. I am also aware that the Ramones, the Stooges, most garage bands, VU and, if you want to take liberties with punk (as people invariably do), Woody Guthrie looked the shit.

I have a theory that the main difference between a punk band and a hardcore band is whether or not you look the shit. Because most hardcore bands (except Refused and a couple of others [blah blah shape of punk isn't really hardcore blah blah]) look like a bunch of turds wiped on the loo roll of popular consciousness.

So, my question:

Dear Mr Rail,

I have a piercing in my forehead; are rings or studs in this year?

Yours,

Patrick O'Dentist.

Glice 09.19.2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
i wouldnt consider refused "hardcore".



I can't tell if this is well-observed humour or entirely risible.

Glice 09.19.2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Message boards are the last vestige of the spent masturbator, still intent on wasting time in some neg-heroic fashion. Be damned all who sail here.


Good aide memoire, me.

Glice 09.19.2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
what makes them hardcore?


The AIDS your parents have?

Glice 09.19.2007 12:40 PM

Dude.

I know LOTS of Hardcore fans. I know lots of Hardcore bands. I know fuck all about Hardcore. I have friends in the Hardcore scene coming out of my arse. Unanimously and without exception, all of them like Refused. More than Black Flag. More than Bad Brains. Just because I'll happily admit knowing fuck all about hardcore doesn't mean you can come in with some sort of faux-intellectualism about what's really hardcore and what's really not hardcore. It doesn't matter. Throw a stone in the ugly, sexless pool of hardcore fans and you WILL hit a refused fan.

Rob Instigator 09.19.2007 12:42 PM

black flag is overrated.

there, I said it

sonicl 09.19.2007 12:45 PM

hard-core also hard·core (härd'kôr', -kōr')
adj.

1. Intensely loyal; die-hard. example: a hard-core secessionist; a hard-core golfer.
2. Stubbornly resistant to improvement or change. example: hard-core poverty.
3. Extremely graphic or explicit. example: hard-core pornography.

sarramkrop 09.19.2007 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
i didnt say fans of hardcore cant like refused, did i? all i said is that i dont think refused are hardcore, shit, i dont think refused even consider themselves hardcore.

and chances are, if bad brains and black flag are the first bands that come to yr mind when ya think "hardcore", then obviously ya probally dont know all that much about it. we're talking about a scene where most albums released were self releases, and you name drop the two easiest to find at the mall? im not too impressed.

its not about who ya know man.

and shit..haha..i know hardcore fans that like motorhead, does that make motorhead hardcore?


Ok sway, YOU are hardcore, not Refused. Glass of wine?

sarramkrop 09.19.2007 12:49 PM

Good for you. Give yourself a punch in the face. It helps prove your point a little better.

Glice 09.19.2007 12:51 PM

Sway, you have AIDS. I'm getting in the shower, then I'm going out to see a gay band with a load of girls, one or more of whom I may have sex with. If anyone would continue to tell Sway that he has AIDS, the bad kind, the kind that makes your face all AIDS-y, that'd be excellent.

To re-cap: I said something right. Sway didn't. Sway has AIDS.

Could've saved a lot of time by just saying that. Oh, efficacy, why hast thou forsaken me?

sonicl 09.19.2007 12:52 PM

swa(y) - You're hardcore stubborn. Does that help?

sarramkrop 09.19.2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
dont try and offend me, last time i made a serious attemt at offending you you started throwing out threats and sending me messeges begging me to apologize to people.


God, you really are insane. What threats or begging do you speak of?

Anyway, I'm off too. Another exhibition opening tonight. Another joyful and decadent event.

sonicl 09.19.2007 12:57 PM

Hardcore stubborn was too kind. I've checked the thesaurus, and I prefer "hardcore pig-headed".

swa(y) - you're hardcore pig-headed.

Or, as synthetically would have it, you're 'ardcore pig-'eaded

sonicl 09.19.2007 01:01 PM

I'm going home now, to eat a salad, with some felafel. Which is neither punk nor hardcore. Possibly a little hippy?

jon boy 09.19.2007 01:01 PM

sonicl, you forgot to add albini esque when describing him.

pbradley 09.19.2007 02:52 PM

Punk fashion, another indication of the hypocritical "anti-establish" rhetoric of the so-called punk movement.

Cantankerous 09.19.2007 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
well, apparently mclaren got his fasion ideas from the time his spent in NY before managing the pistols.

so is it fair to blame the dolls or richard hell?

richard hell's girlfriend cut up all his clothes and he was broke. you do the math.

Norma J 09.19.2007 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
what makes them hardcore?

are they under the age of 24? are they signed to a label? were they around in the early 80s? if you answered "yes" to any of these questions, i think its questionable as to wether or not refused are hardcore.


Man, this is stupid, but anyway:

Refused were hardcore. They were a huge part of the hardcore movement in Umea which influenced a huge majority of Sweden and then internationally too.
The Shape of Punk to Come was not Refuseds first album. That was their album that they wanted to progress and make something more out of punk music, hence the title. And they did a splendid job of it too. Therefore, what's more punk than that?

Anyway, listen to their first couple of albums, they're standard hardcore albums (well maybe "Songs to Fan the Flames of Discontent" was more of a sign of what was to come from them. But still very indicative of hardcore), hence why they've got nothing on The Shape...

demonrail666 09.19.2007 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
Punk fashion, another indication of the hypocritical "anti-establish" rhetoric of the so-called punk movement.


Hey punk fashion is alright, proper fuckin rebellious. Anyway, kate moss is a punk and she's into fashion so, i dunno. yeah

Norma J 09.19.2007 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl
I'm going home now, to eat a salad, with some felafel. Which is neither punk nor hardcore. Possibly a little hippy?


You had to mention felafels, didn't you?

Now I crave and my belly rumbles.

pbradley 09.19.2007 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Hey punk fashion is alright, proper fuckin rebellious. Anyway, kate moss is a punk and she's into fashion so, i dunno. yeah

In a philosophy that preaches about self-expression against the confines of an ideology, having a discernible fashion is the exact opposite of an anti-herd stance.

History has show time and again that bands have had to "leave" punk rock because what they were doing didn't agree with the established punk dogma.


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